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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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bodiddley

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24570 on: December 05, 2019, 03:13:34 PM »

The only two countries who didn't join the Paris Accords were Nicaragua, who thought it wasn't strong enough and Syria which didn't participate due to civil war.  Every other country signed on.

Trump is trying to pull the US out because it energizes his base which is against environmental concerns and is supported by Big Oil and such donors. 

Under the Paris Accords, each country set its own goal which is voluntary.  There is no penalty for not meeting the self-selected target goal.  So Trump pulling the US out is largely symbolic.  Which is doubly true since he was required to wait under the terms of the PA, and once he initiated withdrawal mechanism, it takes one year before it becomes effective.  And that one year deadline occurs one day after the next president is sworn in.  So if a Dem wins, there is no withdrawal from the voluntary unenforceable self-selected limits.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24571 on: December 05, 2019, 03:16:29 PM »


Yes, reducing greenhouse gasses and reducing pollution are worth doing.
Problem is the cost.
The cost of giving the UN billions/trillions of taxpayers' dollars for 'climate change', for starters.
...large part of the reason Trump took US out of 'Paris'.

Climate change has cost U.S. taxpayers more than $350 billion over the past decade, according to a report released last year from nonpartisan federal watchdog the Government Accountability Office. By 2050, that figure will be $35 billion per year. Costs include clean up and disaster assistance from flooding and storms, which are set to increase under rising temperatures.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/6-ways-to-prepare-your-finances-for-climate-change-2016-12-20
A lot cheaper than eliminating fossil fuels.


Wrong.   Fixing the problem before it balloons and requires disaster remediations at very high cost, is cheaper.   And creates new industries and new jobs.   To give one example:

Which makes more sense, let temperatures soar until ocean ecosystems expire and then a mad scramble to find replacement protein (for all the sea food lost) and clean up Red Tides and other marine disasters and build seawalls and so on...or spend the money to fast-track clean energy, and lower-methane agriculture, and possibly innovations like coastal cloud generators, and hold the line at temps that give us a little margin to keep the oceans alive.

I think you left out some pertinent punctuations.
Along with a whole lot of common sense.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24572 on: December 05, 2019, 03:41:30 PM »

News Item


Amid historically tight labor markets, trade concerns and slowing economic growth, U.S. small businesses still managed to accelerate their hiring last month. That’s according to the latest employment report from the National Federation of Independent Business, due out later today.

“Job creation jumped in November with an average addition of 0.29 workers per firm, the highest level since May,” reports NFIB Chief Economist William Dunkelberg. The November surge far exceeds October’s increase of just 0.12 additional workers per firm.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24573 on: December 05, 2019, 04:17:43 PM »

http://www.salon.com/2019/12/05/beyond-conspiracy-theory-trump-and-the-republicans-are-waging-an-all-out-war-on-reality/

Bambi was among the first victims of the English language bullshit empire.

Red is vying to retroactively become patient 0.

Reality is...

China will likely have taken over the world by 2100.
Many people seem to have seen it, and are living for 'today' not 'tomorrow'.

China is allegedly building coal-fired power stations as fast as it can go.
So are India, Japan and many others.

Fail

Wouldn't be the first time. :)

My bad - that was meant for another post
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24574 on: December 05, 2019, 04:28:47 PM »

From the drawing board....

Thanks, dumbfuck.  Keep up the good work.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24575 on: December 05, 2019, 05:49:29 PM »


Watching the “fuck your feelings” crowd who called everyone ‘snowflakes’ collapsing into quivering mounds of jello because a law professor mentioned Trump’s kid by name is precious.

Well.
It appears Jerry  Nadler’s  idea of an Impeachment Investigation is to call three liberal pointy- head law professors to “educate” us on just what they think removing a President is all about.
It took less than a few hours before Nancy Pelosi saw the stupidity in that and threw in the towel.
Write the Articles and lets vote before Christmas!
In other words we got to fish or cut bait and move onto an election.

And when she looked it over
It was time to run for party cover
We ain’t looking like leaders
In the Impeachment Charade!

Apologies to Irving Berlin.

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« Reply #24576 on: December 05, 2019, 06:20:06 PM »

Law professors do educate.  Putting scare-quotes around educate doesn't really make a cogent argument against their statements.  In fact, there is nothing substantive in the entire post.   Just another IFI, releasing its bowel gas.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24577 on: December 05, 2019, 06:36:49 PM »

3 pro-impeach figures

The Harvard guy was excellent.  But then he was caught when they read his quotes on Trump impeachment that he denied he had said

Girly looked down her nose at her audience.  And is a total never-Trumper.  Very impressive mind though. 

The third guy of course impressed as well - these lawyers have incredible backgrounds, after all.

OUR guy was of course unflappable, fair and on point re:  impeachment and how silly it is right now
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24578 on: December 05, 2019, 07:01:41 PM »

3 pro-impeach figures

The Harvard guy was excellent.  But then he was caught when they read his quotes on Trump impeachment that he denied he had said

Girly looked down her nose at her audience.  And is a total never-Trumper.  Very impressive mind though. 

The third guy of course impressed as well - these lawyers have incredible backgrounds, after all.

OUR guy was of course unflappable, fair and on point re:  impeachment and how silly it is right now

If you totally ignore what he said plus what he said in 2014, 1998, and other times.

He didn't say it was silly. And his comment about evidence would make a ton more sense if his side weren't working night and day to prevent the evidence from coming out!

But since no indictable crime is necessary for impeachment (according to him before he got hired by the GOP to say it was), the evidence that is needed is in, amply.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24579 on: December 05, 2019, 07:01:56 PM »

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The day Richard Nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day he was subject to impeachment because he took the power from Congress over the impeachment process away from Congress, and he became the judge and jury." ~Lindsey Graham

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24580 on: December 05, 2019, 07:33:30 PM »



Just getting in the swing of things, helping the Black folk in their campaign;

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/shirts-blacks-for-trump/
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« Reply #24581 on: December 05, 2019, 07:53:23 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24583 on: December 05, 2019, 08:45:23 PM »


Watching the “fuck your feelings” crowd who called everyone ‘snowflakes’ collapsing into quivering mounds of jello because a law professor mentioned Trump’s kid by name is precious.

Well.
It appears Jerry  Nadler’s  idea of an Impeachment Investigation is to call three liberal pointy- head law professors to “educate” us on just what they think removing a President is all about.
It took less than a few hours before Nancy Pelosi saw the stupidity in that and threw in the towel.
Write the Articles and lets vote before Christmas!
In other words we got to fish or cut bait and move onto an election.

And when she looked it over
It was time to run for party cover
We ain’t looking like leaders
In the Impeachment Charade!

Apologies to Irving Berlin.

And the GOP’s pointy headed law professor said, “yeah, you got him but you should wait. Take your time and let the impeachment marinate (or some such bullshit) go slow and fight through every level of the courts... and, oh. By the way I didn’t vote for Trump.”

Nancy D’Alessandro said, “Fuck that and fuck you! Damn the torpedoes!”

His ass is as good as impeached.

If I’m the Dems? Let it hang right there. Fuck the Senate Kangaroo Court.

Let the evidence grow.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #24584 on: December 05, 2019, 08:50:59 PM »

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