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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Or maybe its just because you lost - judging by how Bush was treated here but I dont recall, barton -if you were here back then

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Many people's assessment. Including some who have left the administration

Egg throwers?  Not so much.  But you wouldn't expect praise from opposition extremists

EXTREMISTS!!

Yes.  Your group.  You say you are a proud American but cannot act like it because the President's personality has you all fucked in the head.

Yup, because no one here has ever made a credible argument that your “president” is unqualified, criminal or corrupt, and no one has posted any fair objection to any one of his policies.  It’s all been about his personality.  If you don’t like caged (and dying) kids on the border, tax cuts going to the already wealthy while cutting off food stamps,  conceding US bases to Russian forces in Syria, or welcoming Russian interference in our elections, you are an irrational hater and downright UNAMERICAN.  Yeah.  That sounds right.

You, toddler, are a worthless white nationalist garbage-posting troll.  And I make that assessment based on the facts of what you post.  Not on your personality. which I am sure is garbage too.

[bodiddley]

Personally I'm embarrassed that America elected as obvious a huckster and charlatan and unpleasant bombast as Trump to be president.

I think there are many many signs of American decline, and that Trump could be elected is one of the more unfortunate ones.  The worship of money and business has led the US down a corrupt path.  Suddenly money is speech; and corporations have religious rights.  The hollowing out of the middle class, a conspiracy of both parties, has led to rampant inequality, and great despair among the poor so that we have opioid crises, nativism and resurgent racism.

One party preys on people's fears.
One party calls government the problem.
One party ignores and disregards science.
One party calls the media the enemy of the people.
Trump represents a lot that is wrong with America, including a willingness to engage in name-calling, ignore facts, make up falsehoods, support conspiracy theories, and otherwise glorify ignorance.

I find it very hard to believe the US people won't rise up and remove this stain on the presidency.  I believe people will look back and find Trump to either be a horrid aberration, or a significant turning point where America began the process of flushing itself down the toilet.

I don't care much about the President's admittedly colorful personality, I care about the direction the country is headed.  Everyone should have health insurance/access to quality health care.  That would help tens of millions and make this country better.  Wars are evil and should be avoided as much as possible.  The military industry should be reduce and arms exports as well.  Positive infrastructure should be built, creating jobs and strengthening the nation.  Profitable companies should be paying tax that contributes to the welfare of America and Americans.  Renewable energy should be supported to improve the environment and create jobs of the future.  The blueprint is there.  Funding sources as well.
All a lot better than just crony capitalism with wealth creation going mainly to the rich.

[barton]

  I can only add that if asking for competent, honest and accountable government is "fucked in the head" then call me batshit cuckoo for cocoa puffs stark raving mad.   I AM proud to live in a nation where we are permitted to call for the removal of sociopathic scoundrels from high office.

[kiidcarter8]

What do these words/phrases have in common?

App
Occupy
Hashtag
Because X
#BlackLivesMatter
They
Dumpster Fire
Fake News
tender-age shelter

[kiidcarter8]

  I can only add that if asking for competent, honest and accountable government is "fucked in the head" then call me batshit cuckoo for cocoa puffs stark raving mad.   I AM proud to live in a nation where we are permitted to call for the removal of sociopathic scoundrels from high office.

You didnt treat Bush/Cheney teh same as Trump?

You didnt call for them to be tried for war crimes?

If not - good for you.  But you are in the minority here

[kiidcarter8]

Personally I'm embarrassed that America elected as obvious a huckster and charlatan and unpleasant bombast as Trump to be president.


This is all fine and dandy but you have to stand with the will of the people.    If you are to stay here, you live by what has justly occurred using our process.

Maybe you don't understand other Americans as you should, the WHY behind the Trump votes.  I am not talkimng abut someone like myself, who you know a little from this forum.  I mean the folks in middle America and other locales wholive quite differently than yiou - who have thoughts on the nation - and how we should proceed - based on THEIR lives, past and present.  It's AMERICA, not just your playground.

I was leaving if we elected Hillary.  Had the down payment all set.  I'd have still considered nyself an American - just taking a break from life in my nation til it reset.  Maybe you should do the same if Trump wins again.  I'd applaud that.  While living here you should support the nation -a and DONALD TRUMP is the face of it.

[kiidcarter8]

Well done, administration:

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-princeton-scholar-freed-by-iran-20191207-s5ao4hqakbetddjzcwxl4pxqem-story.html

[oilcan]

You know Bo lives in Shanghai, right?  As for the rest of your sermon on how we must all accept anyone, even a criminal demagogue, if they are elected, I'll leave the rehash of that to others.   

[oilcan]

Good luck on Thursday, Limeyville!

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I was leaving if we elected Hillary.  Had the down payment all set.  I'd have still considered nyself an American - just taking a break from life in my nation til it reset.

Nothing says I’m totally not extreme and I’m a proud American than moving out of the country because you don’t like the person it elected. 

With the added irony + idiocy that the place you were moving to in order to avoid Clinton’s “socialist” policies was Canada.  But then, that isn’t the reason you were moving North, is it.

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Maybe you should do the same if Trump wins again.  I'd applaud that.  While living here you should support the nation -a and DONALD TRUMP is the face of it.

Unconditionally support the "president" toddler supports, or leave the country.  You have no other options.

No more AMERICAN sentiment than that can possible be expressed.   Bravo. 

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You didnt treat Bush/Cheney teh same as Trump?

What would this prove if he had?  Is it a known fact that Republicans can't elect two idiots in a row?

You didnt call for them to be tried for war crimes?

If not - good for you.  But you are in the minority here

I haven't called for Bush or Cheney to be tried for war crimes. 

I can however understand given the Administration's torture programs why those calls would be based on fact, not irrational dislike of bush or Cheney's personality.

Maybe something has emerged since George left office that scrubs the administration clean of, for example, Abu Ghraib?  If I missed it, feel free to point me to it.  Thanks.

[kiidcarter8]

You know Bo lives in Shanghai, right?  As for the rest of your sermon on how we must all accept anyone, even a criminal demagogue, if they are elected, I'll leave the rehash of that to others.   

Again - that's your EXTREMIST opinion.

You are entitled to it.  I dont think that makes you a moron.  Just a minority element of our society.

By the way, if this president were actually a criminal you'd have no trouble with the impeachment process - no trouble getting a  desired result - rather than just the PR you will have to live with as proceeds of your side's efforts

Demagogue?  Meh - wouldnt be the first time.  Not even in the last decade.

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You know Bo lives in Shanghai, right?  As for the rest of your sermon on how we must all accept anyone, even a criminal demagogue, if they are elected, I'll leave the rehash of that to others.   

Again - that's your EXTREMIST opinion.

You are entitled to it.  I dont think that makes you a moron.  Just a minority element of our society.

By the way, if this president were actually a criminal you'd have no trouble with the impeachment process - no trouble getting a  desired result - rather than just the PR you will have to live with as proceeds of your side's efforts

Demagogue?  Meh - wouldnt be the first time.  Not even in the last decade.

A plurality of Americans support impeaching and removing Trump.  So seeing that outcome as justified in no way makes someone a "minority element" of our society.

And then you prove that you are not at all extreme in your political views by calling Obama a demagogue, which is a view I think we can all agree has nothing at all with his personality.