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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25035 on: December 12, 2019, 07:26:50 PM »

McConnell and co looking to hold Trump’s trial and vote for his acquittal without calling any witnesses.

But kiidcarter8 thinks Republicans would support impeachment if only the facts supported it.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25036 on: December 12, 2019, 07:34:38 PM »

Seems that maybe REDSTATEWARD's judgement on Trump's impeachable offenses re: Ukraine may not be so reliable, considering he doesn't know what a Quid Pro Quo is.
I offered no judgement on Trump.
I stated (twice) that Nancy’s gifts are not
Quid pro quo! (albeit with a  wink, wink)
LOL.
Thanks for playing.

Your post made it clear you don't know what a Quid Pro Quo is.
LOL!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25037 on: December 12, 2019, 07:45:12 PM »

"you need to stop" is kidspeak for "I can't formulate any coherent argument or rebuttal."

"quid pro quo" is wardspeak for "pleasing constituents with legislation they voted for you to do, when you're the opposing party." 

"Red got his tax break" is yankspeak for "right-wing tools see personal financial gain as the sole yardstick by which all social good is measured."

"the military is underfunded" is kidspeak for "Americans know what's best for the world and should be the world police."  (Ike kinda warned us about that notion getting out of hand)
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25038 on: December 12, 2019, 08:12:00 PM »

Need to stop pointing out your hypocrisy and stupidity?  No.  Its fun.


Misrepresentation has always been your strong suit
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25039 on: December 12, 2019, 08:13:45 PM »

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/protesters-block-brisbanes-william-jolly-bridge-to-all-traffic/ar-AAK4ozP?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

© Toby Crockford     The Extinction Rebellion group blocked all traffic the four-lane bridge to demand action on climate change.

An estimated 150 climate change protesters have blocked all traffic on Brisbane's William Jolly Bridge.

The Extinction Rebellion group moved onto the bridge about 9 am on Friday and 15 minutes later sat down in a circle in the middle of the four-lane river crossing.
They are demanding action on climate change, with a specific focus on the recent Queensland and New South Wales bushfires.


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Of course.
Talk about misguided.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25040 on: December 12, 2019, 08:13:54 PM »

McConnell and co looking to hold Trump’s trial and vote for his acquittal without calling any witnesses.

But kiidcarter8 thinks Republicans would support impeachment if only the facts supported it.

YG had that earlier.  Better to acquit.  Good call by Yank.

Are there more than 2-3 from Trump's party that are supporting the impeachment?  I hadnt heard.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25042 on: December 12, 2019, 08:33:03 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/12/politics/trump-greta-thunberg-time-person-of-the-year/index.html

Trump attacks Thunberg.

Thunberg mocks Trump with his own words.

Again.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25043 on: December 12, 2019, 09:01:05 PM »



"quid pro quo" is wardspeak for "pleasing constituents with legislation they voted for you to do, when you're the opposing party." 
Particularly on the eve of a vote that if it blows up
costs Santa Nancy her job!
ROFL!
Barton you are a hoot!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25044 on: December 12, 2019, 10:04:42 PM »



"quid pro quo" is wardspeak for "pleasing constituents with legislation they voted for you to do, when you're the opposing party." 
Particularly on the eve of a vote that if it blows up
costs Santa Nancy her job!
ROFL!
Barton you are a hoot!

A wet dream for Ward, clearly.

But just a fantasy.
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The day Richard Nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day he was subject to impeachment because he took the power from Congress over the impeachment process away from Congress, and he became the judge and jury." ~Lindsey Graham

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« Reply #25047 on: December 12, 2019, 11:47:04 PM »

So here we are on the Eve of Impeachment after a 22 month democrat vendetta against Trump(admitted to today by Speaker) Pelosi).

And what do the democrats have?

Nothing.

No Crime.

Not even a violation of a Statute.

Just a festering resentment that Trump was elected by deplorables and is therefore illegitimate.

But, guess what?

The Impeachment talk has convinced no one. In fact there is strong evidence that Pelosi can’t deliver a unanimous vote from her own House Caucus.

Hence her need to throw last minute political gifts to vulnerable members in red state districts.

This is not going to end well for the dems.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25048 on: December 13, 2019, 12:55:23 AM »

Boris wins!

Yo!

Brits are slowly taking back their country.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25049 on: December 13, 2019, 01:21:19 AM »

Corps pay a minimum of 15% on profits.
No more zeroing out taxes.
That'd raise quite a few pennies.

You mean take away all the tax breaks Amazon gets, I take it ("Amazon pays ZERO!!!")
How would that change their company - and other companies approach to what they do?

ExxonMobil and lots of the biggest companies make billions in profits and pay no federal tax.  Willy Sutton could tel you why you should tax corporations.  But Amazon and Exxon paying $0 means that someone earning $40K pays more. 

The shift from corporate taxation to worker tax has had pernicious effects.  People resent gov't taking away part of their earnings more than a giant company does (for which it's an accounting exercise and might weigh on the share price a little).  Thus the anti-tax movement has been fueled by the shift away from corporate taxation.  While both parties compete for voters by offering small middle class tax cuts, further reducing the gov't revenue stream and exacerbating deficits.

Huge untaxed corporate profits have also led to a stock boom and giant compensation packages for the top execs, both of which have fueled inequality and wealth concentration.  And these corporate titans then go on to evade taxation and rail against taxes, perpetuating the cycle.

Bernie has talked about how the richest companies make Billion dollar profits, escape tax, while paying their workers sub-standard wages, and then some of these working poor rely on food stamps or other gov't assistance.  So the gov't subsidizes working poor, while their employers make obscene profits off paying a sub-living wage.  At the very least these workers bolstering billion dollar profits earn too little to contribute tax to the gov't.  Btw, Bernie was attacking Wal-Mart.  But seems the  same applies to Amazon and others.

Another aspect: how productive, fair, sustainable is it for Waltons or Zuckerberg to have tens of billions of dollars while their employees are stuck in working poverty.  Taxation is a means of redistributing private wealth towards greater social good.   Of course some have been conditioned to think of some freeloading minority getting an undeserved handout.  But much of that money can go to infrastructure projects which not only provide jobs, thus spreading wealth to working class folks, but also improve the nation broadly allowing others to more easily create more private wealth.

And as for welfare, why don't we want poor people to have some money so they can live decently and buy things thus spreading money through the economy.  You give money to poor people and they spend it recycling it through the local economy quite efficiently.  Efficient allocation.  You allow someone to hoard $20B and there's a lot of capital being unproductive.
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