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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25275 on: December 18, 2019, 09:45:50 PM »

Tom Steyer and Mike Bloomberg should take the money they’re spending jerking off in public and mount an ad campaign to sell this impeachment to middle America...

Yup. I posted a similiar thought elsewhere (maybe here too-I forget). Make it very targeted in swing states/battle grounds and make the case crystal clear. i

We need the '18 blue wave to turn into a fucking '20 tsunami to clean the corrupt shit out of our politics.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25276 on: December 18, 2019, 10:30:29 PM »

”But suppose for a moment those two billionaires decided to put their money ($100 million and climbing) somewhere it would do some good? Say a series of 30-second television spots and a billion Facebook ads targeting every market in the nation explaining in no uncertain terms what Trump  did and why he has to go.
Probably because neither of these billionaires are stupid.
The democrats had two months of free media( tv, print, etc,) to make that case and never moved the needle of public opinion towards removing Trump.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25277 on: December 18, 2019, 10:41:12 PM »

”But suppose for a moment those two billionaires decided to put their money ($100 million and climbing) somewhere it would do some good? Say a series of 30-second television spots and a billion Facebook ads targeting every market in the nation explaining in no uncertain terms what Trump  did and why he has to go.
Probably because neither of these billionaires are stupid.
The democrats had two months of free media( tv, print, etc,) to make that case and never moved the needle of public opinion towards removing Trump.

I thought I heard something but, no.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25278 on: December 18, 2019, 10:41:49 PM »

All the Democrats and conservatives voted for the articles. Russians, the mafia, and cannibals voted against the articles, marking themselves for defeat in the fall.

After a second round of evidentiary hearings over the next couple of months, the house can name managers and we can find out which senators support treason like the creepy lightweights in the house minority.

Ah, Tulsi...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25281 on: December 18, 2019, 11:39:14 PM »

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Trump at -10. Warren, Sanders, and Biden all beat him.

It’s probably because he’s a crook, he’s terrible, and he’s a terrible crook. The
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25282 on: December 19, 2019, 04:46:29 AM »

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On the first article, abuse of power, two Democrats, Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, who is considering switching parties to become a Republican, and Collin Peterson of Minnesota voted against impeaching Trump. On the second article, obstruction, those two and freshman Rep. Jared Golden of Maine voted against. Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is running for president, voted “present” on both.

Van Drew sat with Republicans. And Rep. Justin Amash, the Michigan conservative who left the Republican party and became an independent over impeachment, voted with Democrats. “I come to this floor, not as a Republican, not as a Democrat, but as an American,” he said.
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« Reply #25283 on: December 19, 2019, 05:34:22 AM »

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Georgia election officials purged nearly 309,000 voter registrations from the state’s voting rolls this week

Voter purges in Georgia became a hot-button issue during last year’s race for governor between Abrams and Republican Brian Kemp, who won the race. Kemp served as secretary of state before being elected governor and oversaw aggressive voter purges during his tenure. Over 1.4 million voter registrations were canceled in Georgia between 2012 and 2018.

Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in October released a list of over 313,000 voters whose registrations were at risk of being canceled, about 4% of the state’s total registered voters. Notices were mailed in November giving those voters 30 days to respond in order to keep their registration valid.

Fair Fight says a new law allows voters nine years of inactivity before being removed — compared to seven years under the old law. But the lawyer for the state countered that the people in question were placed on the inactive list before the new law took effect.

Reportedly WI and OH, key swing states with the GOP in power, have been purging voter rolls as well.  And of course in FL the GOP is trying to evade and avoid letting ex-cons vote though that's the (new) law there.

The GOP economic and social policies are mostly unappealing to voters.  So they have to amp up cultural issues, dispense fear and racial division in order to win.  And trying to block voting by any means possible, such as purging voter rolls, limiting polling stations in heavily minority areas, requiring picture ID, etc.  They'd make Negroes recite the Gettysburg Address and the Bill of Rights if they could get away with it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25284 on: December 19, 2019, 12:33:53 PM »

A few months ago in discussing the political impacts of impeachment, I made the point that those predicting that impeachment would improve Trump’s numbers by making him a sympathetic figure were underestimating the effects it would have on his behavior.  His playing the victim, appearing paranoid, and his just generally despicable behavior was bound to get worse.

Well, 30 minutes past getting impeached Donald Trump was attacking a not one year deceased honorable Representative and World War II veteran by saying he could be in Hell because his widow voted for impeachment.  In a swing state where that Rep was so enormously popular that even the rabid Trumpist crowd groaned.  And arguably, this isn’t even the worst thing he said at that rally.  This two days after sending a letter to Pelosi that was pure straight-jacket crazy.

Trump is sitting on all the advantages he could ask for, politically.  A growing economy largely put in place by his predecessor, a relative time of peace with no foreign policy crisis (that isn’t of his own doing.)  A half-intelligent person would be able to sleep-walk to at least a 50% approval rating.  Yet Trump is in the low 40s and half of America says they won’t vote for him in 2020.  Why?  Because he is a piece of shit, and can’t stop reminding people that he is a piece of shit.

And whatever the polls show now, I don’t think that is going to get better.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25285 on: December 19, 2019, 12:39:13 PM »

I think kiid should be so proud of the John Dingell in Hell joke. That is what he supports when he supports Trump.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25286 on: December 19, 2019, 01:14:16 PM »

I think kiid should be so proud of the John Dingell in Hell joke. That is what he supports when he supports Trump.

There are Trumpist assholes out there who think that shit is great.  Its red meat for Trump’s “base.”

I think (hope) for most Americans this is another concrete example of why he is unsuitable and unqualified to be President of the United States.

Dem candidate should be running ads in Michigan over the next year with clips of last night’s rally to remind the independent minded in the state of what kind of person Donald Trump is.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #25287 on: December 19, 2019, 02:07:36 PM »

It took a Herculean effort but the House GOP leadership kept its caucus unified in the Impeachment Charade. Minority Whip Steve Scalise was one of only 47 republicans on the committees allowed to sit in on AdamSchiff’s secret hearings. Scalise made sure he held regular briefings with his 150 members who could only follow the well-planned leaks of selected testimony that Schiff hoped would sway GOP members. Scalise also pounded home that 90 democrats had already supported impeachment BEFORE Ukraine became an item.
Once the public hearings began with the FBI corruption exposed in the IG report soon to follow it was clear that the whole affair was strictly partisan.
And we know Pelosi and Nadler had warned the dems that a strictly partisan fight would not be good for the country.

Nadler, before the Impeachment of Bill Clinton-1998

The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters as expressed in a national election. We must not overturn an election and remove a president from office except to defend our very system of government or our constitutional liberties against a dire threat. And we must not do so without an overwhelming consensus of the American people and of their representatives in Congress of the absolute necessity
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« Reply #25288 on: December 19, 2019, 02:12:32 PM »

It took a Herculean effort but the House GOP leadership kept its caucus unified in the Impeachment Charade. Minority Whip Steve Scalise was one of only 47 republicans on the committees allowed to sit in on AdamSchiff’s secret hearings. Scalise made sure he held regular briefings with his 150 members who could only follow the well-planned leaks of selected testimony that Schiff hoped would sway GOP members. Scalise also pounded home that 90 democrats had already supported impeachment BEFORE Ukraine became an item.
Once the public hearings began with the FBI corruption exposed in the IG report soon to follow it was clear that the whole affair was strictly partisan.
And we know Pelosi and Nadler had warned the dems that a strictly partisan fight would not be good for the country.

Nadler, before the Impeachment of Bill Clinton-1998

The effect of impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters as expressed in a national election. We must not overturn an election and remove a president from office except to defend our very system of government or our constitutional liberties against a dire threat. And we must not do so without an overwhelming consensus of the American people and of their representatives in Congress of the absolute necessity

Steve Scalise got shot in the ass and lost his fucking mind.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #25289 on: December 19, 2019, 02:27:15 PM »

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