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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

Assaulting imprisoned asylum seekers is the last way Kiid can imagine ever having sexual contact with another human being since he has already exhausted all other possibilities with no luck at all.

[kidcarter8]

Factcheckers are your friend.   Any actual evidence that assaults of migrant women were happening?


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You ARE so lame

[josh]

Looks like the  Flores Agreement just pertains to minors.
But there's still the question of enforcement.  And the ability to have access to know what's going on in these facilities.

Yes, just minors, hence the original comment: "The federal government is responsible for allowing thousands of detained children to have been sexually molested or worse."

They have the ability to have access, just not the willingness to assert that power. Some people have lost their jobs for failure to screen job applicants, which is not nothing. It's just not enough.

[josh]

Factcheckers are your friend.   Any actual evidence that assaults of migrant women were happening?

You ARE so lame

In other words, no, you have no such evidence, but are happy to assert that there were some.

Hey, I cede the point, but you ignore the implications, Kid.

I object to women's and children's being sexually assaulted (or raped, even) at any time and place. But what he was looking for was evidence to suggest that it happened more often than it would happen in the general population of their home countries - were they at greater risk of rape in the caravan than they had been or was it perhaps less risky?!

And, as has already been asked of you, don't you think that the United States government should be held to a higher standard than random caravans passing through other countries?

Or is that too "lame" for you to admit to?

[josh]

[bodiddley]

I'm not surprised that there are some extra protections in place for detained minors since they are by definition a vulnerable population.  Also not surprising that these were agreed to only after extensive litigation alleging abuses and poor treatment.  And that the resulting Flores Agreement reportedly wasn't implemented properly or fairly for many years.  Or that the Trump Admin is trying to ditch these basic protections.

When I dealt with the INS, lawyers had to tread carefully since their clients and the other detained adults were not legally entitled to lawyers, but some lawyers/legal groups were permitted.  Such access and representation could be cut off at any time. 

We also learned that while the admin judges could order the guards to bring a detainee to a facility, if the guards failed to do so, the judge had no enforcement power and essentially no recourse.  The guards could just toss out any excuse -- they couldn't find him, he wasn't at that facility, might have been transferred, etc.  We had two Somalis that were lost in the system like that.  We had to resort to asking other detained Somalis if they saw or had heard of the two missing fellas.  For the most part the processing and admin centers were not the same as the holding/detention facilities.

The whole INS was poorly run, rights were granted in an ad hoc fashion, and a lot of the case resolutions were based on political considerations.

[bambu.]

Yesterday in my newspaper I saw a young British woman dressed lol in one of these latest fashion 'string bikinis'. Literally a piece of string with 3 very small pieces of material attached, all at/for the front.
The back, nothing.
Obviously for women who don't want to be objectified.

Young seemingly White British woman was shown from the back, piece of string barely visible. $175 for this new 'swimsuit'. Why don't I ever think of these things.
Buy the string for $1 a yard and sell it as 'swimsuits' for almost $175 a yard. A nice addition to my pension.

Apparently she's an "influencer" on social media someone has paid to boost tourism to Australia.
The story with the photo stated that she was "swimming in Kakadu National Park in the Northern Territory".
Swimming in Kakadu National Park is lunacy!

Monster crocodiles that gobble up sharks live there.
Crocodiles have legs.
She keeps swimming there she might find herself minus her rather ample butt, or worse.

[bambu.]

I'm not surprised that there are some extra protections in place for detained minors since they are by definition a vulnerable population.  Also not surprising that these were agreed to only after extensive litigation alleging abuses and poor treatment.  And that the resulting Flores Agreement reportedly wasn't implemented properly or fairly for many years.  Or that the Trump Admin is trying to ditch these basic protections.

When I dealt with the INS, lawyers had to tread carefully since their clients and the other detained adults were not legally entitled to lawyers, but some lawyers/legal groups were permitted.  Such access and representation could be cut off at any time. 

We also learned that while the admin judges could order the guards to bring a detainee to a facility, if the guards failed to do so, the judge had no enforcement power and essentially no recourse.  The guards could just toss out any excuse -- they couldn't find him, he wasn't at that facility, might have been transferred, etc.  We had two Somalis that were lost in the system like that.  We had to resort to asking other detained Somalis if they saw or had heard of the two missing fellas.  For the most part the processing and admin centers were not the same as the holding/detention facilities.

The whole INS was poorly run, rights were granted in an ad hoc fashion, and a lot of the case resolutions were based on political considerations.

Makes you wonder just who is running America and why all that is allowed.
Doesn't surprise me though, the Black African  Aussie model has also 'disappeared'...can't afford a lawyer, might never be seen again.
'Equality Under The Law'...what law, one might ask.
Judges have no power, there is no law, there's just anarchy.
The wall must stay, but Trump has to go.

Waste of time having judges and courts in America, Trump govt's Immigration agents, well, you know...

[oilcan]

  A December 2018 Gallup poll found Obama to be the most admired man in America for an unprecedented 11th consecutive year, although Dwight D. Eisenhower was selected most admired in twelve non-consecutive years.
   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup%27s_most_admired_man_and_woman_poll


Also has made a pretty good list of favorite movies this year.  American Factory looks like a good watch for the forumites here.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/29/politics/barack-obama-2019-favorite-movies-list-trnd/index.html

[bambu.]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/no-blondes-allowed-50-years-after-a-junior-high-experiment-students-say-it-had-a-big-impact/ar-BBYrnTu?li=AAgfYrC&OCID=AVRES000

No blondes allowed’: 50 years after a junior high experiment, students say it had ‘a big impact’

As she walked to the building in her matching turquoise sweater and skirt, she saw the first of many signs of bias. “Blondes use the side door,” read a sign hung over the main entrance. Dark-haired student guards blocked those doors to make sure blond students didn’t use them. After entering through the side entrance, she saw a giant “No Blondes Allowed,” banner strung across the staircase leading to her home room. Hall monitors jeered at her, directing her to the blonds-only stairwell. In class, her teachers didn’t call on her. At lunch, she was forced to sit at a separate table from her brunette friends, segregated based on the color of her hair.

Then, on Monday, “the message that blondes are inferior, undesirable persons was broadcast over the school’s public address system and circulated in a one-sheet newspaper,” The Post story said.

The blond students were forced to use separate restrooms, doors and drinking fountains, relegated to separate tables in the lunchroom and library and shunned by teachers and brunettes, even their friends, as Brown and others in the junior high at the time described it.

Cooper, Brown and others who attended school that Monday and Tuesday say that some brunette hall monitors were overzealous about enforcing the rules, many times crossing the line into bullying.

“I remember some kids getting beaten up and pushed around because some kids took it as an opportunity to just act out,”.....

Mark Walston, another ninth-grader, also remembers that “the hall monitors became like neo-Nazis, they took their job just way too far and got physical with the kids.” He says as a result, some blond girls cried and went home early during the first two days of the exercise.

Most of the former students interviewed identified students who went overboard.

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Another bright idea by academia.

Wonder where the blond guys are today?
Maybe they went off and started a blond nationalist group...and who could blame them...they having seen what could happen to them if/when the country turned dark-haired.

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White males in Australia know what is happening, and is going to happen, to them;

https://www.news.com.au/news/white-men-can-go-jump/news-story/98b5ec7fc83f0b845a1623d274ed58ec?sv=60e1072c78dacffefe6128d6717b2127

Discrimination against white males will soon be encouraged

2009

The first raft of changes to the Equal Opportunity Act were introduced into Parliament last week.

Originally published as White men can go jump

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And the no-ideas now wonder why, and complain that there is, a gender war, and is a gender pay gap.
And that men are suing anyone who is trying to sack them from boards etc and replace them with women.
What did those marching guys say at 'Charlottesville'..."we will not be replaced"?

[josh]

Yesterday in my newspaper I saw a young British woman dressed lol in one of these latest fashion 'string bikinis'.

Which pretty much tells us about your taste in "news" papers.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/29/politics/john-lewis-pancreatic-cancer/index.html?fbclid=IwAR2hujV8e43kD9EKG_-Ny3Hz3hoszgeQIh24F86tz0vmxLx1uIR_Ou-Lk0A

[bambu.]

Yesterday in my newspaper I saw a young British woman dressed lol in one of these latest fashion 'string bikinis'.

Which pretty much tells us about your taste in "news" papers.

Sunday Telegraph.
Nothing wrong with the newspaper.
How can one take their family to the beach when confronted by string swimwear.

Correction;
The British woman wasn't wearing a string swimsuit,  her whole-butt-revealing swimsuit had slightly more material around the waist...but the rest is correct, she was swimming where I stated.
Too many ample butts in my face as I read the paper.

The string swimwear article by journalist Katy Hall was several pages later, complete with photo;

Please, make the invisible bikini trend go away

Embracing an itsy bitsy teeny weeny bikini over summer is one thing, but committing public acts of indecency all in the name of Instagram fashion is another. Make it stop, writes Katy Hall.

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Next thing you know, women wearing invisible bikinis and not wanting to be objectified might be complaining that people are looking at them, leering at them.

[kidcarter8]

🎉🍫Cocoa_Bean (@Cocoa_Bean10) Tweeted:
.@JoeBiden gets it wrong... again

A good guy with a gun stopped the TX church shooter
#DefendYourself
https://t.co/N21XvaRnDD https://twitter.com/Cocoa_Bean10/status/1211420174131314689?s=20

[josh]

🎉🍫Cocoa_Bean (@Cocoa_Bean10) Tweeted:
.@JoeBiden gets it wrong... again

A good guy with a gun stopped the TX church shooter
#DefendYourself
https://t.co/N21XvaRnDD https://twitter.com/Cocoa_Bean10/status/1211420174131314689?s=20

Kid gets it wrong, again, but won't admit it.