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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

[josh]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.

It's also very unclear that his claiming "these people could clear me and I want them to testify" is going to fly with even the GOP when he is blocking them left and right during this process.

Be careful, indeed.

[kiidcarter8]

Of the 2016 "selection" of candidates, I would likely have supported Kasich or Christie, if there were no other options but the GOP slate.


How bout that?  So we agreed.

[kiidcarter8]

BTW- If the choice was between Trump and.a potted plant I’m going with the plant.


Yes.  And the random person on 5th Ave

You have already put yourself in a box.  No need to chime in.

[REDSTATEWARD]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.

LOL
The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate. The fathers decided, in the case of impeachment of a President, it would not prudent to have the normal presiding officer, the Vice President, be in charge.
So.
On the question of executive privilege relevance the House managers can request a ruling BUT any ruling can be questioned by any senator and overruled by a simple majority vote (Rule VII). There is no one to appeal to. The Senate itself is the final authority on every procedural or evidentiary question.
The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
That will never happen on a question of executive privilege. 

[josh]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.

LOL
A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance. That is, if the votes are there to have witnesses to start with, I think there will be a strong push to get some of those "executive privilege" voices heard.

We'll see.

[REDSTATEWARD]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.

LOL
A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance.

You need to read more. As a “ Global Moderator you are pretty naive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-trump-has-kept-near-unanimous-gop-support-through-impeachment-11579442401[/url]

[josh]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.

LOL
A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance.

You need to read more. As a “ Global Moderator you are pretty naive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-trump-has-kept-near-unanimous-gop-support-through-impeachment-11579442401[/url]

As a random board member, you are incredibly naive about what my being a "“ Global Moderator " means. It has nothing to do with (1) knowledge, (2) image shrinking, or (3) moderate viewpoints. It has everything to do with (A) my being able to go into any and all fora and delete of extraneous posts, (B) my being able to suspend of ban posters, and (C) my being able to split & merge threads.

The WSJ has no biases at all.

And if that take on things were accurate, then it would not be up in the air whether there will be witnesses at all, would it?!

[LarryBnDC]

BTW- If the choice was between Trump and.a potted plant I’m going with the plant.


Yes.  And the random person on 5th Ave

You have already put yourself in a box.  No need to chime in.

Put myself in a box the day that fucking fraud rode the escalator past all the paid supporters.

The only thing this fuck ever accomplished on his own was being the fastest swimmer in the load Fred Trump dropped in 1945. If he wasn’t Fred’s kid he’d a wound up as a squeegee guy at the off ramp of the Queensborough Bridge.

Fuck anyone who voted for that shit head and double fuck anyone who still supports the walking piece of shot.

[facilitatorn]

Kid is more comfortable in a basket with Red.

[REDSTATEWARD]

(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.

Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats can’t.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.

LOL
A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance.

You need to read more. As a “ Global Moderator you are pretty naive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-trump-has-kept-near-unanimous-gop-support-through-impeachment-11579442401[/url]

As a random board member, you are incredibly naive about what my being a "“ Global Moderator " means. It has nothing to do with (1) knowledge,

No argument there.

The WSJ has no biases at all.

It’s editorial staff has quite a few. Mostly conservative ones, many of which don’t match up really well with Trump.

But I forwarded an article written by its news staff that didn’t advance an opinion, only observations backed by sources.

You responded by changing the subject.

[josh]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/opinion/biden-sanders-social-security.html?fbclid=IwAR2KW4h6a55gR8Njg-CeA-nRqS574U2xKGVc_sw08UAb8AiimePQVGkbHfU

Sanders' staff is doing dumb stuff and Bernie, as ever, is denying responsibility but also not retracting it.

Not that Biden's response to his own history is better.

[josh]

On the left, Bambi and his radio host full of #2:

[facilitatorn]

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/republican-cover-up-trump-impeachment-ukraine.html

[kiidcarter8]

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/2020-iowa-caucus.html