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The Trump trial in the Senate:

should allow witnesses and new evidence
- 3 (75%)
should allow witnesses, but no new evidence
- 0 (0%)
should not allow witnesses, but should allow new evidence
- 0 (0%)
should not allow either witnesses or new evidence
- 0 (0%)
should allow new witnesses and new evidence, but only if the GOP gets to call one or both Bidens
- 1 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 4

Voting closed: January 26, 2020, 12:25:44 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26580 on: January 20, 2020, 09:50:35 PM »

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(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.
Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats canít.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.
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A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
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B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance. That is, if the votes are there to have witnesses to start with, I think there will be a strong push to get some of those "executive privilege" voices heard.

We'll see.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26581 on: January 20, 2020, 10:17:07 PM »

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(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.
Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats canít.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.
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A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance.
You need to read more. As a ď Global Moderator you are pretty naive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-trump-has-kept-near-unanimous-gop-support-through-impeachment-11579442401[/url]

« Last Edit: January 20, 2020, 10:22:31 PM by REDSTATEWARD »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26582 on: January 20, 2020, 11:05:18 PM »

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(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.
Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats canít.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.
LOL
A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance.
You need to read more. As a ď Global Moderator you are pretty naive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-trump-has-kept-near-unanimous-gop-support-through-impeachment-11579442401[/url]

As a random board member, you are incredibly naive about what my being a "ď Global Moderator " means. It has nothing to do with (1) knowledge, (2) image shrinking, or (3) moderate viewpoints. It has everything to do with (A) my being able to go into any and all fora and delete of extraneous posts, (B) my being able to suspend of ban posters, and (C) my being able to split & merge threads.

The WSJ has no biases at all.

And if that take on things were accurate, then it would not be up in the air whether there will be witnesses at all, would it?!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26583 on: January 20, 2020, 11:16:05 PM »

BTW- If the choice was between Trump and.a potted plant Iím going with the plant.


Yes.  And the random person on 5th Ave

You have already put yourself in a box.  No need to chime in.

Put myself in a box the day that fucking fraud rode the escalator past all the paid supporters.

The only thing this fuck ever accomplished on his own was being the fastest swimmer in the load Fred Trump dropped in 1945. If he wasnít Fredís kid heíd a wound up as a squeegee guy at the off ramp of the Queensborough Bridge.

Fuck anyone who voted for that shit head and double fuck anyone who still supports the walking piece of shot.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26584 on: January 21, 2020, 01:58:21 AM »

Kid is more comfortable in a basket with Red.
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A cheeseburger, a putter, a porn tape, someone elseís credit card, and nothing else = the contents of trumpís head.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26585 on: January 21, 2020, 02:01:59 AM »

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(CNN)About half of Americans say the Senate should vote to convict President Donald Trump and remove him from office in the upcoming impeachment trial (51%), according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS, while 45% say the Senate should vote against conviction and removal.

Nearly seven in 10 (69%) say that upcoming trial should feature testimony from new witnesses who did not testify in the House impeachment inquiry. And as Democrats in the Senate seek to persuade at least four Republican senators to join them on votes over allowing witnesses in the trial, the Republican rank and file are divided on the question: 48% say they want new witnesses, while 44% say they do not.

That last bit might be enough to push a few GOP senators over the hump and into voting to have witnesses.
Be careful what you wish for.  Trump can still use executive privilege,  the democrats canít.

He can try to use executive privilege, Ward, but it is unclear that CJ Roberts will buy it.
LOL
A) The Chief of SCOTUS is the presiding officer of a meeting of the Senate.
...
B) The CJ would could have a voice if the Senate split .50-50.
C) That will never happen on a question of executive privilege.

A) Yes. SCOTUSblog did a fine job explaining this. (If anybody is curious: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/01/the-role-of-the-chief-justice-in-an-impeachment-trial/ )

B) Yes.

C) It's precious that you are so sure of that. I think you overestimate the grip that Trump has on the GOP in this instance.
You need to read more. As a ď Global Moderator you are pretty naive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/how-trump-has-kept-near-unanimous-gop-support-through-impeachment-11579442401[/url]

As a random board member, you are incredibly naive about what my being a "ď Global Moderator " means. It has nothing to do with (1) knowledge,

No argument there.

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The WSJ has no biases at all.
Itís editorial staff has quite a few. Mostly conservative ones, many of which donít match up really well with Trump.

But I forwarded an article written by its news staff that didnít advance an opinion, only observations backed by sources.

You responded by changing the subject.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26586 on: January 21, 2020, 02:29:20 AM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/opinion/biden-sanders-social-security.html?fbclid=IwAR2KW4h6a55gR8Njg-CeA-nRqS574U2xKGVc_sw08UAb8AiimePQVGkbHfU

Sanders' staff is doing dumb stuff and Bernie, as ever, is denying responsibility but also not retracting it.

Not that Biden's response to his own history is better.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26587 on: January 21, 2020, 03:01:22 AM »

On the left, Bambi and his radio host full of #2:

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A cheeseburger, a putter, a porn tape, someone elseís credit card, and nothing else = the contents of trumpís head.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26589 on: January 21, 2020, 09:33:51 AM »

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Trump has "set a standard" for presidents "that most mortals won't be able to meet. He out-works them, he out-thinks, he is remarkably resourceful, he's bright, his judgment is second to none."

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26591 on: January 21, 2020, 09:53:39 AM »

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/republican-cover-up-trump-impeachment-ukraine.html

This was a good line(and paragraph that followed) from the article:

  So far, Republicans have dismissed the new evidence with juvenile logic games.   

In the post-truth era,  those chickenshit games and party loyalty matter more than getting all facts pertinent to the case.   Democracy, as a system based on determinable truths,  is in its death spiral.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26592 on: January 21, 2020, 09:56:57 AM »

BTW- If the choice was between Trump and.a potted plant Iím going with the plant.


Yes.  And the random person on 5th Ave

You have already put yourself in a box.  No need to chime in.

Put myself in a box the day that fucking fraud rode the escalator past all the paid supporters.

The only thing this fuck ever accomplished on his own was being the fastest swimmer in the load Fred Trump dropped in 1945. If he wasnít Fredís kid heíd a wound up as a squeegee guy at the off ramp of the Queensborough Bridge.

Fuck anyone who voted for that shit head and double fuck anyone who still supports the walking piece of shot.

Thumbs up.

Kid and his ilk consider adherence to constitutional principles to be "in a box. "  Fuck his dishonest and morally bankrupt rhetoric.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26593 on: January 21, 2020, 10:00:14 AM »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-bernie-in-new-documentary

Makes me even more confident that Bernie is your man.
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Trump has "set a standard" for presidents "that most mortals won't be able to meet. He out-works them, he out-thinks, he is remarkably resourceful, he's bright, his judgment is second to none."

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #26594 on: January 21, 2020, 11:54:08 AM »

You seem to have more confidence than expertise...or reading ability.  It appears Bart is on Team Amy. 

Sanders smear of Biden on Soc Sec. is more worrisome than HRC's comments.  See Krug this a.m.  Bernie could be the guru of the progressive wing, but actual competition doesn't bring out his best side, and is hard on his heart. 
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