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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28080 on: February 28, 2020, 12:28:16 PM »

Joe Biden continues to try to catch up to Trump in the untrustworthy category, but even with this he is out of his league!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html

No, Joe, you were not arrested in South Aftica. You were told you could not go where you wanted to go. Not the same thing.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28081 on: February 28, 2020, 12:30:15 PM »

The Trump administration statement that some Americans won't be able to afford the vaccine underscores what is wrong with Trump in ways that ought to send ripples through the American people.

I fear that people like Kid and Ward will just accept it as "the way it's sposed to be."

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/27/21155879/alex-azar-coronavirus-vaccine-affordable-insurance

But apparently the outcry was clear enough that for the moment, at least, they have retracted that statement.

Not that there will be a vaccine available before at least a year and more likely 18 months, but still... Azur and company really need to get somebody competent in there!

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28082 on: February 28, 2020, 12:37:23 PM »

Joe Biden continues to try to catch up to Trump in the untrustworthy category, but even with this he is out of his league!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html

No, Joe, you were not arrested in South Aftica. You were told you could not go where you wanted to go. Not the same thing.

One problem I've seen with Joe for a long time is that he is a fairly slow and deliberate thinker, but chose a career where you need to think fast on your feet and talk fast.  The debate formats have made this mismatch even starker.  Watch him sometime as he talks and tries to get something out in a time-constrained format.  Then watch him in an interview, where he can take his time on each question.  (I noticed the same thing with Bloomberg - watched him in an interview last night with Judy Woodruff and it was like meeting an entirely different person than we saw in the first debate he was in)

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28083 on: February 28, 2020, 12:42:12 PM »

As expected first real emergency, a debacle. Biden over reactionary socialist Bernie for elect-ability easily. 
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« Reply #28084 on: February 28, 2020, 12:48:24 PM »

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  Although health care expenditure per capita is higher in the USA than in any other country, more than 37 million Americans do not have health insurance, and 41 million more have inadequate access to care. Efforts are ongoing to repeal the Affordable Care Act which would exacerbate health-care inequities. By contrast, a universal system, such as that proposed in the Medicare for All Act, has the potential to transform the availability and efficiency of American health-care services. Taking into account both the costs of coverage expansion and the savings that would be achieved through the Medicare for All Act, we calculate that a single-payer, universal health-care system is likely to lead to a 13% savings in national health-care expenditure, equivalent to more than US$450 billion annually (based on the value of the US$ in 2017). The entire system could be funded with less financial outlay than is incurred by employers and households paying for health-care premiums combined with existing government allocations. This shift to single-payer health care would provide the greatest relief to lower-income households. Furthermore, we estimate that ensuring health-care access for all Americans would save more than 68 000 lives and 1·73 million life-years every year compared with the status quo 


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(19)33019-3/fulltext

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28085 on: February 28, 2020, 12:50:47 PM »

Joe Biden continues to try to catch up to Trump in the untrustworthy category, but even with this he is out of his league!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html

No, Joe, you were not arrested in South Aftica. You were told you could not go where you wanted to go. Not the same thing.

One problem I've seen with Joe for a long time is that he is a fairly slow and deliberate thinker, but chose a career where you need to think fast on your feet and talk fast.  The debate formats have made this mismatch even starker.  Watch him sometime as he talks and tries to get something out in a time-constrained format.  Then watch him in an interview, where he can take his time on each question.  (I noticed the same thing with Bloomberg - watched him in an interview last night with Judy Woodruff and it was like meeting an entirely different person than we saw in the first debate he was in)

Joe has to compensate for his stutter. He made his mark as a retail politician (meet and greet, flesh pressing) and those qualities made him a successful Senate candidate.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28086 on: February 28, 2020, 02:39:11 PM »

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Folks should read or at least get a synopsis of Dark Towers,  the new book on Trump and Douchebank.   The question is becoming, as we see with Larry's link,  when DIDN'T Trump launder money?

There’s a reason Trump has dug in so deeply about reveling his tax returns, and it has nothing to do with audits or any normal, run of the mill explanations. It’s quite clear that he has something to hide, something so insidious that being kicked out of the White House would be the least of his worries.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28087 on: February 28, 2020, 03:31:54 PM »

Joe Biden continues to try to catch up to Trump in the untrustworthy category, but even with this he is out of his league!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html

No, Joe, you were not arrested in South Aftica. You were told you could not go where you wanted to go. Not the same thing.

One problem I've seen with Joe for a long time is that he is a fairly slow and deliberate thinker, but chose a career where you need to think fast on your feet and talk fast.  (etc.)

True, but not the problem I am talking about.

This is a problem that has been with him since the 1988 presidential election - he takes credit for things that did not happen more frequently than other candidates (among the Dems) do and on bigger issues. Then he has to walk it back, "clarifying" that that was not what he meant to have said. He does it in speeches, not just debates.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28088 on: February 28, 2020, 04:52:28 PM »

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Folks should read or at least get a synopsis of Dark Towers,  the new book on Trump and Douchebank.   The question is becoming, as we see with Larry's link,  when DIDN'T Trump launder money?

There’s a reason Trump has dug in so deeply about reveling his tax returns, and it has nothing to do with audits or any normal, run of the mill explanations. It’s quite clear that he has something to hide, something so insidious that being kicked out of the White House would be the least of his worries.


He’s been washing Russian money for damn near thirty years.

Now he’s running a bust out on the nation.
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« Reply #28089 on: February 28, 2020, 06:15:16 PM »

Hey, the Dow only dropped 357 points today!

It bounced back from nearly a thousand points down at 3:45 with a mad rush to gain ~600 points in the last fifteen minutes.

Down very slightly less than 3000 points for the week. 4,116 since Feb 12.

Still, above where it was on Memorial Day weekend or any time before Jan 8, 2018.

Bets on what it does?
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« Reply #28090 on: February 28, 2020, 06:17:01 PM »

I think even if we get out of this presidency that the courts are permanently broken and have been since Gore v. Bush made it clear just how political SCOTUS is.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28091 on: February 28, 2020, 06:38:18 PM »

Joe Biden continues to try to catch up to Trump in the untrustworthy category, but even with this he is out of his league!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html

No, Joe, you were not arrested in South Aftica. You were told you could not go where you wanted to go. Not the same thing.

One problem I've seen with Joe for a long time is that he is a fairly slow and deliberate thinker, but chose a career where you need to think fast on your feet and talk fast.  (etc.)

True, but not the problem I am talking about.

This is a problem that has been with him since the 1988 presidential election - he takes credit for things that did not happen more frequently than other candidates (among the Dems) do and on bigger issues. Then he has to walk it back, "clarifying" that that was not what he meant to have said. He does it in speeches, not just debates.
Just wondering what the democrats could have done over the last four years in establishing a better
slate of candidates to take on Trump  if they hadn’t spent their resources on Russia! and impeachment.
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« Reply #28092 on: February 28, 2020, 07:16:49 PM »

Democrat Campaign Director bambu would be having a problem with Joe over the complaints from women.
He'd be looking for another candidate.
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« Reply #28093 on: February 28, 2020, 08:10:11 PM »

Joe Biden continues to try to catch up to Trump in the untrustworthy category, but even with this he is out of his league!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html

No, Joe, you were not arrested in South Aftica. You were told you could not go where you wanted to go. Not the same thing.

One problem I've seen with Joe for a long time is that he is a fairly slow and deliberate thinker, but chose a career where you need to think fast on your feet and talk fast.  (etc.)

True, but not the problem I am talking about.

This is a problem that has been with him since the 1988 presidential election - he takes credit for things that did not happen more frequently than other candidates (among the Dems) do and on bigger issues. Then he has to walk it back, "clarifying" that that was not what he meant to have said. He does it in speeches, not just debates.
Just wondering what the democrats could have done over the last four years in establishing a better
slate of candidates to take on Trump  if they hadn’t spent their resources on Russia! and impeachment.

Just wondering what you actually think about the way the Trump administration has handled the virus so far, with sending ill-equipped folks out, with announcing that many Americans won't be able to afford the vaccine, with downplaying and misrepresenting the dangers, with putting Mike Pence "in charge" of our dealing with it, and with telling our scientists that they are not permitted to talk without its being vetted first.

You approve of all that? Some of that?
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« Reply #28094 on: February 28, 2020, 08:13:30 PM »

I think even if we get out of this presidency that the courts are permanently broken and have been since Gore v. Bush made it clear just how political SCOTUS is.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/mcgahn-testimony-ruling/index.html

Bush 1 appointee and Bush 2 appointee outvote Clinton appointee to say McGahn doesn't need to testify and the courts should not be resolving conflicts between the Executive and Legislative branches (unless it's a Democratic president and a GOP legislative branch, in which case they should rule for the legislative).
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