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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Yes.  "Presumed" the nominee yesterday by talking heads on major networks.

Do keep up - dont stay buried in just the internet.  It'll warp and whittle away your mind,

[barton]

Funny - I thought you told us a little while ago that "talking heads on major networks" were not reliable sources.   Looked like the Can was just following your insight. 

[oilcan]

"Do keep up" is an ad hommie, anyway.   No argument there to respond to.  And no shrewd analyst of the race this year would presume a nominee before the wild card Mike has officially entered a primary, or before Joe has won more than one primary.   Much will be learned Tuesday. 

[LarryBnDC]

"Do keep up" is an ad hommie, anyway.   No argument there to respond to.  And no shrewd analyst of the race this year would presume a nominee before the wild card Mike has officially entered a primary, or before Joe has won more than one primary.   Much will be learned Tuesday.

Bloomberg support is a mile wide and an inch deep.

[josh]

For Bambi on the notion that men cannot have a major impact on the environment...

https://t.co/URfLNy0GZJ?fbclid=IwAR23ZQrhoZT5XGrriGEWOJb7nYWTFb-XnWqSpmG3Nqnew2S3CK95bgw2njQ

This is NO₂Jan 1-20, 2020 over China:


This is NO₂ Feb 10-25 over China, with the combination of the Chinese New Year, the novel coronavirus, and the resulting economic slowdown:

he maps on this page show concentrations of nitrogen dioxide, a noxious gas emitted by motor vehicles, power plants, and industrial facilities. The maps above show NO2 values across China from January 1-20, 2020 (before the quarantine) and February 10-25 (during the quarantine).

[kiidcarter8]

Funny - I thought you told us a little while ago that "talking heads on major networks" were not reliable sources.   




Making fun of the "Joe is the presumptive...."  talk on those networks after he had been buried

Again - keep up.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e5c09ecc5b6450a30c0a3ce

Ken cooch was a bullshit appointment rules the bench. All of his acts are null and void.

Meanwhile trump sexually assaults another American flag in a room full of what once were Christians.

[facilitatorn]

Funny - I thought you told us a little while ago that "talking heads on major networks" were not reliable sources.   




Making fun of the "Joe is the presumptive...."  talk on those networks after he had been buried

Again - keep up.

Sorry I was distracted by the large “kick me” on your face.

[kiidcarter8]

Re:  "Wild Card Mike"

The "presumption" is the Mike money goes to Joe.

Please - dont use these as my words.  I could see anything happening - and dont care one way or the other

[josh]

This is the agreement that the US has entered into, without involvement of the governement of Afghanistan. Specific comments will follow in subsequent posts.

Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and the United States of America February 29, 2020

PART ONE

The United States is committed to withdraw from Afghanistan all military forces of the United States, its allies, and Coalition partners, including all non-diplomatic civilian personnel, private security contractors, trainers, advisors, and supporting services personnel within fourteen (14) months following announcement of this agreement, and will take the following measures in this regard:

A. The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will take the following measures in the first one hundred thirty-five (135) days:

1) They will reduce the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan to eight thousand six hundred (8,600) and proportionally bring reduction in the number of its allies and Coalition forces.

2) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from five (5) military bases.

B. With the commitment and action on the obligations of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban in Part Two of this agreement, the United States, its allies, and the Coalition will execute the following:

1) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete withdrawal of all remaining forces from Afghanistan within the remaining nine and a half (9.5) months.

2) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from remaining bases.

C. The United States is committed to start immediately to work with all relevant sides on a plan to expeditiously release combat and political prisoners as a confidence building measure with the coordination and approval of all relevant sides. Up to five thousand (5,000) prisoners of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and up to one thousand (1,000) prisoners of the other side will be released by March 10, 2020, the first day of intra-Afghan negotiations, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar. The relevant sides have the goal of releasing all the remaining prisoners over the course of the subsequent three months. The United States commits to completing this goal. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban commits that its released prisoners will be committed to the responsibilities mentioned in this agreement so that they will not pose a threat to the security of the United States and its allies.

D. With the start of intra-Afghan negotiations, the United States will initiate an administrative review of current U.S. sanctions and the rewards list against members of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban with the goal of removing these sanctions by August 27, 2020, which corresponds to Muharram 8, 1442 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Saunbola 6, 1399 on the Hijri Solar calendar.

E. With the start of intra-Afghan negotiations, the United States will start diplomatic engagement with other members of the United Nations Security Council and Afghanistan to remove members of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban from the sanctions list with the aim of achieving this objective by May 29, 2020, which corresponds to Shawwal 6, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Jawza 9, 1399 on the Hijri Solar calendar.

F. The United States and its allies will refrain from the threat or the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Afghanistan or intervening in its domestic affairs.

PART TWO

In conjunction with the announcement of this agreement, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will take the following steps to prevent any group or individual, including al-Qa'ida, from using the soil of Afghanistan to threaten the security of the United States and its allies:

1. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will not allow any of its members, other individuals or groups, including al-Qa'ida, to use the soil of Afghanistan to threaten the security of the United States and its allies.

2. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will send a clear message that those who pose a threat to the security of the United States and its allies have no place in Afghanistan, and will instruct members of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban not to cooperate with groups or individuals threatening the security of the United States and its allies.

3. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will prevent any group or individual in Afghanistan from threatening the security of the United States and its allies, and will prevent them from recruiting, training, and fundraising and will not host them in accordance with the commitments in this agreement.

4. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban is committed to deal with those seeking asylum or residence in Afghanistan according to international migration law and the commitments of this agreement, so that such persons do not pose a threat to the security of the United States and its allies.

5. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will not provide visas, passports, travel permits, or other legal documents to those who pose a threat to the security of the United States and its allies to enter Afghanistan.

PART THREE

1. The United States will request the recognition and endorsement of the United Nations Security Council for this agreement.

2. The United States and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban seek positive relations with each other and expect that the relations between the United States and the new post-settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations will be positive.

3. The United States will seek economic cooperation for reconstruction with the new post-settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations, and will not intervene in its internal affairs.

Signed in Doha, Qatar on February 29, 2020, which corresponds to Rajab 5, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 10, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar, in duplicate, in Pashto, Dari, and English languages, each text being equally authentic.

[josh]

Re:  "Wild Card Mike"

The "presumption" is the Mike money goes to Joe.

Please - dont use these as my words.  I could see anything happening - and dont care one way or the other

They are your words until you tell us whose presumption that is, with a citation for your source.

My presumption is that Mike's money goes to whomever the nominee is, except Bernie, in which case it goes to the Senate and House races even more than it already will.

[josh]

A. The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will take the following measures in the first one hundred thirty-five (135) days:

1) They will reduce the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan to eight thousand six hundred (8,600) and proportionally bring reduction in the number of its allies and Coalition forces.

2) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from five (5) military bases.

We're going to pull down our numbers to the level Obama left them at within 135 days and abandon 5 military bases. But before we finish doing that, we are going to give them back 5,000 fighters in the first 9 days of this agreement?!

Up to five thousand (5,000) prisoners of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and up to one thousand (1,000) prisoners of the other side will be released by March 10, 2020,

That's very nice of us to "agree to" in our negotiation with this non-government. (Whatever happened to "we don't negotiate with terrorists?!")

But do we have the authority to do that? Sure, we can agree to pull out our own troops, but this is not solely ours to control, I would think.

March 10, 2020, the first day of intra-Afghan negotiations

We have now declared that the government of Afghanistan will enter into these negotiations on a specific day. And, as it turns out, with a specific pre-determined outcome:

the new post-settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations

The agreement notes that the United States will "request the recognition and endorsement of the United Nations Security Council for this agreement." It says nothing about our going to "request the recognition and endorsement" of the government of Afghanistan for this agreement.

Gee, I wonder how they feel about this bi-lateral, exclusionary agreement in which they had no hand.

[kiidcarter8]

"except Bernie"

This is the basic gyst of it all, yes.

Ant that this money pushes said candidate past the Burlington Bruiser.

Presumption has also been that party bigs have already been all over low ranking candidates to UNITE in their collective bail from this race.

[josh]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/president-ghani-rejects-peace-deal-prisoner-swap-taliban-200301082216180.html

President Ghani rejects peace deal's prisoner swap with Taliban
Government never committed to set free 5,000 Taliban prisoners as a precondition for talks with the group, says Ghani.

Really?! Who could have guessed that?!!!!!!

Ghani said: "It is not in the authority of the United States to decide, they are only a facilitator".

Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel-Hamid, reporting from Kabul, said: "What we are seeing now are actually all the problems that were existing before coming to the surface again today."

The story notes that the US-Taliban agreement was likely the easiest part of this, difficult as it was. Also, Trump scuttled the last talks after the death of a single US soldier at the Taliban's hands.

But it would make sense that we want an agreement, before this looks like another loss in a war for us. Or as the story points out, "The Taliban now controls or hold influence over more Afghan territory than at any point since 2001 and has carried out near-daily attacks against military outposts throughout the country."

The Taliban is agreeing not to attack us or our allies. I wonder if their official government ("puppet government" is what they have called it while refusing to negotiate with them) counts as one of our allies.

[josh]

"except Bernie"

This is the basic gyst of it all, yes.

Ant that this money pushes said candidate past the Burlington Bruiser.

Presumption has also been that party bigs have already been all over low ranking candidates to UNITE in their collective bail from this race.

Mike's not planning to spend money on anybody but Mike and anti-Trump between now and the convention, last I heard.

Have you heard otherwise?

And we're still waiting for your source, while expecting you to fail to provide one.