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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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josh

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28965 on: March 13, 2020, 10:50:58 PM »

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According to conservative media, some top Republicans believed a stipulation in the House bill requiring the government to reimburse private laboratories doing coronavirus testing could effectively overturn the Hyde Amendment by establishing a government funding stream not subject to the restrictions. In response, anti-choice lawmakers insisted on including language in the legislation that would reaffirm the principles of the amendment.

So... it turns out that it was not the Dems pulling a fast one, but the GOP being paranoid.

So, they held up the bill and pointed their fingers at the Dems.
The Hyde Amendment talk was pure democrat politics to offset Trump’s demand for a payroll tax cut. That’s all it was.

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It turns out also that the president wanted tax cuts. He got tax credits for the companies that help out their employees, but not the tax cut that nobody but him wants.
The tax cut had bipartisan support. That’s why Nancy had to find a way to kill it.

LOL

You have quite the imagination.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28966 on: March 14, 2020, 02:39:41 AM »

The prez did a few good things as well. The vets, secure borders, a national identity, along with the bad. I am not a big fan of the trickle down.

A national identity?
I need more info on that ...

There was an article by Don Jr the other day i'll try to dredge up.  He claims to spend a lot of time in the midwest, though i don't think he's in jail there.  He had a list of 5 Trump accomplishments and it was pretty meager.
One was criminal justice reform which was bipartisan and mostly led by the Dems.  He took credit for new trade deals which supposedly helped Americans.  But most commentators noted the new not-NAFTA was mostly the same as the old NAFTA.  Not much has been settled with the Chinese and the trade dispute has hurt farmers who have had to be bailed out.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28967 on: March 14, 2020, 02:55:04 AM »

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According to conservative media, some top Republicans believed a stipulation in the House bill requiring the government to reimburse private laboratories doing coronavirus testing could effectively overturn the Hyde Amendment by establishing a government funding stream not subject to the restrictions. In response, anti-choice lawmakers insisted on including language in the legislation that would reaffirm the principles of the amendment.

So... it turns out that it was not the Dems pulling a fast one, but the GOP being paranoid.

So, they held up the bill and pointed their fingers at the Dems.
The Hyde Amendment talk was pure democrat politics to offset Trump’s demand for a payroll tax cut. That’s all it was.

Nope.
Yep.

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It turns out also that the president wanted tax cuts. He got tax credits for the companies that help out their employees, but not the tax cut that nobody but him wants.
The tax cut had bipartisan support. That’s why Nancy had to find a way to kill it.

LOL

You have quite the imagination.

He has quite the drug habit, not to mention syphilitic delusions.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28968 on: March 14, 2020, 03:01:05 AM »

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e6ab657c5b6bd8156f4183d

Good recap of the trump fiasco as it has unfolded so far.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28969 on: March 14, 2020, 03:44:39 AM »

The prez did a few good things as well. The vets, secure borders, a national identity, along with the bad. I am not a big fan of the trickle down.

A national identity?
I need more info on that ...

There was an article by Don Jr the other day i'll try to dredge up.  He claims to spend a lot of time in the midwest, though i don't think he's in jail there.  He had a list of 5 Trump accomplishments and it was pretty meager.
One was criminal justice reform which was bipartisan and mostly led by the Dems.  He took credit for new trade deals which supposedly helped Americans.  But most commentators noted the new not-NAFTA was mostly the same as the old NAFTA.  Not much has been settled with the Chinese and the trade dispute has hurt farmers who have had to be bailed out.

It was considered terrible when a potus was mixed up with scandals and criminal behavior. This guy has been involved with more shady characters than you saw in the entire 20th century excluding possibly Harding.
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« Reply #28970 on: March 14, 2020, 07:04:05 AM »

Thank you Luee. That can not be said enough. Combine that with the lengths he goes to to make sure no one knows what he’s up to before and since he took the office. Shady people working on shady shit in the dark. Every trickle has been bad and has gotten to a stonewall as it’s been about to turn worse. 

Whenever he has to put up something he should have been working on or should have had competent non-shady people working on, it turns out to be crap that is oversold and that under delivers bigly.

Even if you love the man, as some here seem to do, its abundantly and increasingly evident that President is not the job for him. Not only that, he also scares off good help and can’t hire for shit.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28971 on: March 14, 2020, 09:15:15 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28972 on: March 14, 2020, 09:39:10 AM »

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e6ab657c5b6bd8156f4183d

Good recap of the trump fiasco as it has unfolded so far.

I am sure you meant to say beautiful handling
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28973 on: March 14, 2020, 10:01:30 AM »

Obama's fault="beautifully handled".
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« Reply #28974 on: March 14, 2020, 10:17:06 AM »

Your government, specifically the Trump Administration, is actively trying to do harm do the populace.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/487551-federal-judge-cites-coronavirus-in-decision-blocking-trump-admin-cut
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #28975 on: March 14, 2020, 10:36:18 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/world/russia-ghana-troll-farms-2020-ward/index.html


They have focused almost exclusively on racial issues in the US, promoting black empowerment and often displaying anger towards white Americans. The goal, according to experts who follow Russian disinformation campaigns, is to inflame divisions among Americans and provoke social unrest
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« Reply #28976 on: March 14, 2020, 10:51:13 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/world/russia-ghana-troll-farms-2020-ward/index.html


They have focused almost exclusively on racial issues in the US, promoting black empowerment and often displaying anger towards white Americans. The goal, according to experts who follow Russian disinformation campaigns, is to inflame divisions among Americans and provoke social unrest


They just dusted off their old Soviet playbook.

Why not?  You run the same play until the defense stops it.

In the most politically damaging line of reasoning, Soviet broadcasters argued that American domestic policy toward its black citizens was “indicative of its policy toward peoples of color throughout the world.” Emerging African, Asian, and South American nations, in other words, should not count on Americans to support their independence.


https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/07/civil-rights-coverage-how-the-soviets-used-evidence-of-racial-strife-against-us-in-the-world-press.html
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« Reply #28977 on: March 14, 2020, 10:58:21 AM »


Live by the Dow...

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« Reply #28978 on: March 14, 2020, 11:22:44 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/politics/veterans-affairs-coronavirus-staffing-shortages/index.html

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Data released in August revealed 49,000 vacant positions across the department, which employs more than 390,000 people. While the agency's budget has since increased, tens of thousands of jobs remain unfilled.

"It could end up killing people," one VA official who works for a regional system said, referring to the likelihood that medical personnel at its 1,243 health care facilities across the country will be overwhelmed by a significant rise in patients.
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« Reply #28979 on: March 14, 2020, 11:50:51 AM »

There are bells that Kid cannot unring.   Does he have the courage to read this,  in The Atlantic,  and give fair consideration to the facts cited there,  before he casts a vote in November?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/

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What I explained then, [in 2016] and what I have said many times since, is that Trump is fundamentally unfit—intellectually, morally, temperamentally, and psychologically—for office. For me, that is the paramount consideration in electing a president, in part because at some point it’s reasonable to expect that a president will face an unexpected crisis—and at that point, the president’s judgment and discernment, his character and leadership ability, will really matter...   

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The president’s misinformation and mendacity about the coronavirus are head-snapping. He claimed that it was contained in America when it was actually spreading. He claimed that we had “shut it down” when we had not. He claimed that testing was available when it wasn’t. He claimed that the coronavirus will one day disappear “like a miracle”; it won’t. He claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; Fauci says it will not be available for a year or more.

Trump falsely blamed the Obama administration for impeding coronavirus testing. He stated that the coronavirus first hit the United States later than it actually did. (He said that it was three weeks prior to the point at which he spoke; the actual figure was twice that.) The president claimed that the number of cases in Italy was getting “much better” when it was getting much worse. And in one of the more stunning statements an American president has ever made, Trump admitted that his preference was to keep a cruise ship off the California coast rather than allowing it to dock, because he wanted to keep the number of reported cases of the coronavirus artificially low...
 



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