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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

Three questions to watch:
1. Will we begin to see quarantines imposed by federal or state leaders?
2. How will federal resources be deployed to assist in state and local efforts to combat coronavirus?
3. How extensively will coronavirus disrupt our normal civic functioning including courts and elections?


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/supreme-court-coronavirus-postponed-opinion-cross-exam-honig/index.html

3.  ...Ohio ( for example)is barring any in person voting in its Primary before Election  Day.

It turns out that Ward is wrong about this, too.

And I thought that their Primary was going to be postponed, but a judge turned down the governor.

Early voting:
https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voters/voting-schedule/2020-schedule/#gref

Judge turns down governor's request:
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200316/coronavirus-judge-denies-request-to-move-ohio-primary-to-june-2

LOL
DeWine lost the Court Case which means his decision on Election Day voting is moot.

Yes, Ward, that was what I said. Very good.

The other thing I said was that you were wrong about no voting until election day.

Duh.
DeWine called off the election tomorrow.
Come back on June 2 if you want to vote in person.

[LarryBnDC]

Final:

[josh]

Three questions to watch:
1. Will we begin to see quarantines imposed by federal or state leaders?
2. How will federal resources be deployed to assist in state and local efforts to combat coronavirus?
3. How extensively will coronavirus disrupt our normal civic functioning including courts and elections?


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/opinions/supreme-court-coronavirus-postponed-opinion-cross-exam-honig/index.html

3.  ...Ohio ( for example)is barring any in person voting in its Primary before Election  Day.

It turns out that Ward is wrong about this, too.

And I thought that their Primary was going to be postponed, but a judge turned down the governor.

Early voting:
https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voters/voting-schedule/2020-schedule/#gref

Judge turns down governor's request:
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200316/coronavirus-judge-denies-request-to-move-ohio-primary-to-june-2

LOL
DeWine lost the Court Case which means his decision on Election Day voting is moot.

Yes, Ward, that was what I said. Very good.

The other thing I said was that you were wrong about no voting until election day.

Duh.
DeWine called off the election tomorrow.
Come back on June 2 if you want to vote in person.

No, the state's health director called off the election tomorrow.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/investing/dow-jones-stock-market-coronavirus/index.html

Another 16% drop possible says Goldman-Sachs.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/top-health-officials-stockpiled-equipment/index.html

Health officials warn US government does not have enough stockpiled medical equipment to deal with coronavirus

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/politics/white-house-guidelines-coronavirus/index.html

"We'll see what happens, but they think August, could be July, could be longer than that," Trump said of the time when life might return to normal in the United States, where some cities have ordered residents to remain at home and localized lockdowns are beginning to take effect.

"I've asked that question many, many times," Trump said, signaling his own desire to see the crisis end.
Still, he said testing problems that plagued the administration's early response were resolved and gave himself a perfect 10 out of 10 when asked how he would grade his response to the coronavirus pandemic.

A perfect 10 out of 10.

No responsibility for firing the experts.

No responsibility for ignoring the warning the Chairman of the Fed gave him months ago about the impact of the disease.

No responsibility for refusing the WHO masks.

No responsibility for the delay in deployment of tests to keep numbers down.

No responsibility for muzzling the scientists.

[facilitatorn]

He only feels responsible to Putin.

He only feels responsible because Putin has the Pee-Pee tapes.

[josh]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/487939-gop-sen-cotton-calls-for-monthly-cash-payments-to-americans-during

Senator Cotton (R-ARK) calls for UBI on a temporary basis. From the article:

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) said Monday he wants to give monthly checks to low-income and middle-class Americans so they can afford necessities during the coronavirus outbreak.

"Let’s cut out employers as the middle men and get relief to people not in weeks but in days," Cotton wrote in a Medium post outlining his proposals for a Senate bill. "We should send relief directly to American families most likely to be in need — those in the bottom and middle tax brackets — to pay for rent, groceries, childcare, and other necessary expenses, as well as to spend at local businesses that are hurting during this crisis."

Cotton, who knocked the House-passed coronavirus response bill as too complicated, suggested the money could come from tax rebates or through unemployment agencies.
...
It's unclear how much money he wants to give Americans in their monthly checks, but according to Business Insider, he proposed $1,000 per adult or $4,000 for a family of four. His office told Business Insider that he has not settled on a hard number.

[bodiddley]

Many of Italy's citizens went to China for Chinese New Year and there was no travel ban in place at the time.

Mostly when I read comments about China here and elsewhere, people have little to no idea what they are talking about.  But I think we have an award winner here.  Nobody, except Chinese, will travel to China for New Year.  It's like saying a lot of Lithuanians travel to the US for Thanksgiving.  It's a weeklong family holiday in China where most everything is shut down, the cities empty out, and the weather is crappy.  They've even banned fireworks the past 5+ years.  Except for those returning to see family, nobody comes to China for CNY.

[bodiddley]

Given the amazing success of pathogens like smallpox,  plague,  cholera,  typhoid,  tuberculosis, malaria,  Dengue fever,  Yellow Fever,  West Nile, Zika, hemorrhagic fevers,   Creutzfeld-Jacob (100% fatal,  quite the achievement), encephalitis,  staphylococcus aureus, hepatitis,  HIV,  and influenza,  I'd say God is a big fan of bacteria.

I've read often that this is The Age of Bacteria, and we're just tagging along as lumbering medium-sized hosts.

[facilitatorn]

Speak for yourself. As an organism I serve to spread and maintain grains.

[bodiddley]

The Federal Government has the power to quarantine people coming to America and those going state to state. It has no Constitutional power to quarantine the Entire country. The Federal Government can support the states’ decisions to quarantine.

Clearly you have no idea how interstate commerce has been handled and interpreted by the Supreme Court.  Comical.  Research on ...

[luee]

Why not simply manufacture and make health suits available. Everyone wears them for a few weeks and the pandemic is over? Too simplistic?

[bodiddley]

Define "everyone"

[bodiddley]

Reading an article on the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 and in the pics, everyone is wearing face masks.
https://www.livescience.com/spanish-flu.html


A century ago they took sensible precautions, now we have Trump and fools trying to tell us mask wearing is somehow harmful or ineffective (and that there aren't enough anyway).  I've been trying to persuade my octogenarian parents to wear masks when they hit Costco (and change that to biweekly instead of weekly).  And the response I get is that they are doing what others are doing, and very few people are wearing masks.  Pathetic.
And unfortunate that extra infections and needless deaths will occur because of bad advice.  Wear a freakin' mask in public people.  Avoid public places as much as practical.  Wash your hands, wear gloves, etc.