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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

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A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

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DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.sciencealert.com/who-recommends-to-avoid-taking-ibuprofen-for-covid-19-symptoms

Go ahead and use ibuprofen, except if you're French or Kid.

[josh]

Ahhh, there goes that whacky Bill Gates, agreeing with the quack Dr Oz


https://www.foxnews.com/tech/bill-gates-coronavirus-shutdown-could-last-6-10-weeks

The man who said he couldn't imagine anybody ever needing more than 20MB of memory has spoken about a medical issue.

But... no, he didn't agree with Dr. Oz.

This will vary a lot by country," Gates wrote in response to a question of how long this will go on. "China is seeing very few cases now because their testing and 'shut down' was very effective. If a country does a good job with testing and 'shut down' then within 6-10 weeks they should see very few cases and be able to open back up."

It is not enough to do the testing - have you looked at the reports out of Ft. Lauderdale and the other Spring Break destinations? The beaches are jammed with ninnies who have listened to your president up until this week. And the church in Lousiana. I already posted about the other states that are still allowing big group activities. So, sure - 6 to 8 weeks FROM THE TIME THAT THEY START THE SHUT DOWN.

We are not yet at the "good testing" stage, as I already posted (and you ignored).

Your insistence on maintaining an indefensible position, while quoting people without understanding what they have said is amazing.

Here's Dr. Oz on how to greet people:
https://www.doctoroz.com/article/handshake-vs-fist-bump-how-should-you-greet-people-amidst-covid-19

He endorses the fist bump. Not elbows. Not Spock's "live long and prosper," but hands touching.

His guidance is vital and protects people...
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dr-oz-shuts-down-coronavirus-1203538839/

Except his own staff.
But it turns out you misrepresented even Dr. Oz.

[josh]

What Kid told us Dr. Oz said:

".....6-8 weeks - we should be through the worst of it"


-  Doctor Mehmet Oz

What Dr. Oz actually said:

We've got 15 days of holding our breath," he said. "In two weeks we will know exactly how successful we are. We can begin to figure out which levers to modify to release the challenges that we've offered the American public and then about six to eight weeks till we're through the worst of it. I think that prediction is going to turn out to be accurate."

Oz said part of the problem was that, in some cities, doctors are having to take a bit of a "shotgun approach" because of limited access to testing.

"But, once you have testing – which is what they did in South Korea – and you aggressively take folks who are having issues and get them out of the main population, you suffocate this virus, this pandemic, very quickly," he explained. "That's how we can address the virus without suffocating the economy."

And Dr. Oz, himself, misrepresented what the Surgeon General (in whom he expressed faith) said - Dr. Adams did not say that 6-8 weeks would do it:

Asked to provide an approximate timeline of the duration of the virus, Adams said it depends on the public and their adherence to precautions advocated by public health officials, but emphasized that a lasting solution will begin with those at "the community level."

"We have a choice to make. W want to see more people come together, we need our millennials especially, younger people to understand that they are transmitting the disease, the older people are at risk but the young people are the transmitters," he reiterated.

FOX NEWS ADDS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTORS AMID CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC

"This is going to take everyone coming together, workplaces, places of worship, schools, all ages, all generations."

Adams also said he is "convinced America is going to do the right thing."

"I'm convinced we will lean into this and we are looking at weeks to a few months before we have our peak and are able to start coming back down."

But what he said to Fox (above) and what he said to NBC News don't quite align, either with each other or with Dr. Oz:

Surgeon General Jerome Adams said on Wednesday that the Trump administration’s recommendation to practice social distancing for the next 15 days is “likely not enough time” to halt the spread of the coronavirus in the US.

“Fifteen days is likely not going to be enough to get us all the way through,” Adams said in an interview on NBC’s “Today.”

But he did emphasize the importance of social distancing over the coming weeks to “flatten the curve” — or slow the spread of the virus in order to reduce the pressure on the health care system.

“We really need to lean into it now so that we can bend the curve in the next 15 days, and at that point, we’ll reassess,” he said. “If we can get America to pitch in for the next 15 days, we can flatten the curve.”

[LarryBnDC]

I watched an episode of a show on DVR and when it was over he was still talking and having a conversation with a credentialed ‘journalist’ from OAN.


That's the problem.  Like Mika, you refuse to watch and are thus not fully informed.

I watched the beginning and I watched the end. If they let him he’d still be spouting happy talk and bullshit.

Reminds me of Farrakhan, Castro, Mussolini...

[LarryBnDC]

Kiid is becoming the Typhoid Mary of the Australian bullshit virus. I’m safe. Knowing that Kiid is a less reliable source of information than the typical crackhead turns out to be just the antibody one needs to be immune.

Any more diseased junk you want to drag across the forum, Kiid? You pathology is coming into sharper relief with each turd you cough up. 

Red is making his own play for patient 0 status.

Has he mentioned his 401K recently?

[LarryBnDC]

No, not racist at all...





https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/photo-trump-remarks-shows-corona-crossed-out-replaced-chinese-virus-n1164111

[bodiddley]

You know, it's childish and silly.  But Trump is reacting to Chinese officials spreading rumors that the virus was started by Americans military in China.  So he's upping the ante and pushing back at them.  It's not presidential and this could be handled quietly behind closed doors, but Trump is reacting to nonsense and trumping it.  He knows that his voice is louder than what he's responding to.  So I don't see racist intent here.  Just shutting up the BS that came his way.   Of course, it's a poor way to handle an important relationship.  But it is amusing nonetheless.

[josh]

The buck stops over there, redux:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/19/politics/trump-masks-ventilators/index.html

President Donald Trump shrugged off responsibility for providing more medical equipment and gear to strapped hospitals combating coronavirus, saying Thursday there are "millions" of masks available to workers but that it was up to individual states to ensure they are well stocked amid the pandemic.

His comments contrasted sharply to pleas from health care workers who are running out of surgical masks and fear there won't be enough ventilators to treat patients who contract the disease.

And it came as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began advising nurses they could begin using bandanas or scarves as makeshift masks when treating patients with coronavirus -- guidance Trump said he was unfamiliar with and that came as a surprise to the White House when it was reported early Thursday.

Increasingly defensive in the face of questions about his administration's response, Trump said his administration was scaling up its purchase of masks but that states would need to sort out who gets them. He said "nobody in their wildest dreams" would have anticipated the need for more ventilators, which hospitals worry may run short as more patients require them.

He said he would use the Defense Protection Act.

Then he said he might, but only in the most extreme case.

Then he chastised the press, claiming they had no idea if he had or had not used it.
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"Nobody in their wildest dreams" would have anticipated the need for more ventilators, unless they read the report which stated that explicitly, as well as other items we are short on!

[josh]

You know, it's childish and silly.  But Trump is reacting to Chinese officials spreading rumors that the virus was started by Americans military in China.  So he's upping the ante and pushing back at them.  It's not presidential and this could be handled quietly behind closed doors, but Trump is reacting to nonsense and trumping it.  He knows that his voice is louder than what he's responding to.  So I don't see racist intent here.  Just shutting up the BS that came his way.   Of course, it's a poor way to handle an important relationship.  But it is amusing nonetheless.

If he hadn't done the same sort of thing, with or without provocation, I might agree with you. But he has, for decades.

And that he turns to this methodology rather than another is because racist attacks are a standard go-to for him.

[FlyingVProd]

Thanks Bo! Your posts about China are great.

Here is a great website that has a rundown about what is happening here in Anaheim...

https://www.anaheim.net/5454/Tracking-Coronavirus-Anaheim-Ready

People are scared, but we are looking to each other for comfort, and people are trying to look at it as being like a 2 week vacation, but if it lasts longer than 2 weeks then people are worried that they are going to start losing everything that they have. People are living pay-check to pay-check, and no one has enough money saved to last for two months, they might be able to make it for 2 weeks.

So, we need to get more money into people's wallets. The government wants to give $1,000.00 to every American, and that would help. People also need rent forgiveness, and of course no one can be evicted during an emergency.

The stores are still open, and we have food on the shelves. The senior citizens are allowed to shop an hour early, before the general public.

But, no one has toilet paper. People are buying up all of the toilet paper, and they are not leaving any for other people. Some restaurants are delivering toilet paper with the food delivery, and this will attract customers I am sure. Also, the schools can give each student a roll of toilet paper with their grab and go lunches. And we can import toilet paper and other goods from Mexico, so we need to keep our Southern Border open for goods.

And I am trying to build my immune system, I am eating lots of oranges, and also garlic builds my immunity. I still ride my bicycle everyday, so I get exercise. The stores still have food so I am not going hungry, and we can order food and we can have it delivered, and the food bank will bring me a box of food if I run out of food, we just need to get the food banks to include toilet paper.

The young people are ordering food on their cell phones and they are watching Netflix, as long as we keep the food coming in, and other needed supplies, then we should be able to survive this crisis.

I wish you the best, and I wish the best for Shanghai, we will be fine here in Anaheim.

Salute,

Tony V.

[bodiddley]

The Chinese are very amused by the behavior in the US.
They say that in response to the virus, Chinese grab face masks, Americans grab toilet paper.  A lot of jokes about Americans wanting to cover their asses more than their mouths, etc.

Oh, I assume Trump wants to deflect blame on to China, to help him dodge blame for his own poor handling and preparation. 

Sure Trump likes to sow fear and have an enemy.  Mexicans, Chinese, blacks, any OTHER will do.

And I'm pretty convinced that white people are racist and convinced that they are superior.

In this case, I think the Chinese gave Trump an opening he couldn't resist (because he's a jerk who likes to childishly taunt and appeal to racists).

[facilitatorn]

Trump is the turd in the nation’s bedsheets.

Fox whores like Kiid are the national incontinence.

[josh]

Damned socialists trying to take over the country, promising something for nothing!

Mitt Romney thinks giving each adult $1,000 would help the economy, as does Sherrod Brown.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/16/21181872/mitt-romney-ubi-coronavirus-economic-plan-andrew-yang

Mitch McConnell outdoes that, proposing $1,200 per adult.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/mitch-mcconnell-proposes-giving-1200-per-person-in-coronavirus-stimulus-report/?fbclid=IwAR2hj67XxdYopFD59auc4fZdMCBMi3zhmyl0g7mKKTM1eMcik5Ms4tJfh2Y

But Sen. Tom Cotton proposed a monthly payment of $1,000 per person! He has since backed off that and settled on $1,000 per adult and $500 per dependent.
https://www.cotton.senate.gov/files/documents/Cotton%20Coronavirus%20Response%20Plan.pdf

Bernie Sanders suggested $2,000 per month.

Andrew Yang is fascinated by all those socialists.

[josh]

The US has finally started doing mass testing - not as big as it needs to be, but better than it hsa been.

Our total cases jumped 45.5% from yesterday to today (so far).

Italy went up 15%
Netherlands went up 19.9%
France went up 20.4%
Spain went up 22.4%
Germany went up 24.3%
The UK went up 25.5%.
Austria went up 32.4%.
Switzerland went up 35.5%
Ireland went up 52.3%.
Israel went up 56.4%.

The world went up 11.7% in total cases. Deaths went up 11.9%.

[FlyingVProd]

The homeless people are vulnerable, and we need to help them. Until we can build housing, we can let the homeless people live at the camps and stuff. And we need to feed them healthy meals to build up their immune systems.

One nice camp is in Acton...

https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/conservation-camps/acton/

And we have Camp Earl Anna in Tehachapi.

There are also camps in Lake Hughes.

People need to put together a list of camps, and then we need to start busing the homeless people to the camps, where they can shower, and put on clean clothes, and where they can eat healthy meals, etc. Doctors and Psychiatrists, etc, can help people at the camps, and they can have pharmacies at the camps, etc.

Mayor Garcetti is putting homeless people in the motels and hotels. And some hotels are being set up to be used as hospitals if needed.

The travel trailers can be used by the homeless, and they can park the travel trailers in Acton, Lake Hughes, California City, and in other areas.

California City can also have retirement housing for people 55 and older.

As we deal with this crisis, we must help our most vulnerable, and the homeless are vulnerable. We need to help our homeless.

Salute,

Tony V.