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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29580 on: March 23, 2020, 08:58:43 AM »

Bo - maybe you can update us on the wisdom of testing "not so sick" people now .  I would think the system as is shouldn't be inundated with millions of tests (is there enough manpower for this) - but that's just me.

As more testing is approved and becomes easier - where a more immediate result can be seen at a doctor's office (even then I can imagine mad rushes, complaints, etc) - maybe we get closer to what you - citizen Bo living abroad - want.

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kiidcarter8

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« Reply #29581 on: March 23, 2020, 09:07:54 AM »

Liz should be on the short list, though she's too valuable to waste as Veep. 


I think this was said of Truman as well...
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kiidcarter8

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« Reply #29582 on: March 23, 2020, 09:11:27 AM »

Let's hope Biden has smart people running his campaign the nation with him. 


He will.  That's how it works.

But smart people can be tossed in tough soup (see Benghazi - and some would say this virus). 
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« Reply #29583 on: March 23, 2020, 09:16:18 AM »

I'm sorry. I'm having a hard time seeing what difference being optimistic (as opposed to seeing a glass as "1/32 full) makes.
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« Reply #29584 on: March 23, 2020, 09:18:15 AM »

Serology testing is interesting.  We can in time see who has developed an immunity.  Of course the test you can take at a doctor's office - and possibly get same morning/day results - is also a prominent goal.
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« Reply #29585 on: March 23, 2020, 09:35:06 AM »

As far as I can tell, every serious health professional in the US and abroad says that more testing is the key.  The sooner you identify people who have the virus, the sooner you can get them into isolation and disrupt the transmission chain.

Anyone who has been in contact with someone who has tested positive should be tested as soon as possible.  Results should be available quickly as well.  Time is essential to get this under control as soon as possible and have things return to normal.

A lot of testing in conjunction with lockdowns, social distancing and face masks has proven effective.
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« Reply #29586 on: March 23, 2020, 09:49:09 AM »

...maybe we get closer to what you - citizen Bo living abroad - want.

We have strict geographic requirements here,  for having an opinion! 
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kiidcarter8

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« Reply #29587 on: March 23, 2020, 10:00:10 AM »

A lot of testing in conjunction with lockdowns, social distancing and face masks has proven effective.


No argument here

I just dont think this jibes with testing everyone who wants a test - or everyone with a cough - immediately.
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« Reply #29588 on: March 23, 2020, 10:47:59 AM »

Test everyone who came in contact with someone who tested positive.  Test everyone with any symptoms.  This should/would be happening if there weren't a shortage of test materials.

You simply don't want people who might be positive and might be contagious walking around interacting with others.  Would be helpful if everyone wore masks as well.

Unfortunately the US response has been slow and poor.   An assortment of shortages in the richest country on earth. 
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kiidcarter8

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« Reply #29589 on: March 23, 2020, 11:00:49 AM »

Numbers


3% of overall deaths have been US


But

6.33% of deaths in last 24 hours have been US


Many nations have of course leveled off/sloped down in their new number of deaths.


There seems to have been a slight uptick in deaths/cases in US - from 1.2% to about 1.3overall.
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kiidcarter8

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« Reply #29590 on: March 23, 2020, 11:06:15 AM »

Test everyone who came in contact with someone who tested positive. 


Sure.

What do youmean by "contact"?



Test everyone with any symptoms. 


Above 99.6 fever with other symptoms.  Yes.  In New Jersey this makes you eligible.




This should/would be happening if there weren't a shortage of test materials.



Manpower is also needed. Thus testing needs to either be easier (this should be coming) or spread out with most likely cases first (currently happening) - triage being the word.

Check out CLARA online if you haven't already.
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« Reply #29591 on: March 23, 2020, 11:19:51 AM »

Liz should be on the short list, though she's too valuable to waste as Veep. 
She no longer has ANY values. Her tweet rankings calling the stimulus bill a “ bailout” puts her in the lunatic bin of failed politicians. Joe Biden would be a fool to waste time even talking about her.
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« Reply #29592 on: March 23, 2020, 11:21:04 AM »

COULD, Kid, not "should." We don't have "upcoming treatments." We have "potential treatments."


Your glass is about 1/32 full

I stated about 2 weeks back that anti-virals would be used with good result.  And it is of course now quite obviously happening.

You are delusional.
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« Reply #29593 on: March 23, 2020, 11:23:42 AM »

https://imgur.com/t/the_more_you_know/jfeONpT?fbclid=IwAR21chTDB1M5EpNsmtDF9iM3DMfIuoiFX9eQbAU6Ix-4v8xk19HVdV8kYFw


Exactly

As Trump said today - "it's like nothing anyone has ever seen"

But as Oz said - "maybe we can get it to act more like the flu"

We'll see starting this week.
You are getting your information from 2 people with no clue.
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« Reply #29594 on: March 23, 2020, 11:24:12 AM »

Liz should be on the short list, though she's too valuable to waste as Veep. 
She no longer has ANY values. Her tweet rankings calling the stimulus bill a “ bailout” puts her in the lunatic bin of failed politicians. Joe Biden would be a fool to waste time even talking about her.
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If anybody should know about fools, it is surely you.

Yet, it seems even there you fall short.
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