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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29791 on: March 25, 2020, 03:22:04 PM »

The Federalist falls down the rabbit hole:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/how-medical-chickenpox-parties-could-turn-the-tide-of-the-wuhan-virus/?fbclid=IwAR2luwoT2SAQQhLaZzRkoqlVlrGHKFk38yzA3yFmKDpZJBBc9HT1ZUJcEyU

Without reading the article it probably extols developing a herd immunity... but in their interpretation it is a matter of Social Darwinism, a society determined by survival of the fittest.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29792 on: March 25, 2020, 03:26:20 PM »

The Federalist falls down the rabbit hole:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/25/how-medical-chickenpox-parties-could-turn-the-tide-of-the-wuhan-virus/?fbclid=IwAR2luwoT2SAQQhLaZzRkoqlVlrGHKFk38yzA3yFmKDpZJBBc9HT1ZUJcEyU

Without reading the article it probably extols developing a herd immunity... but in their interpretation it is a matter of Social Darwinism, a society determined by survival of the fittest.

And broken Social Darwinism, at that.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29794 on: March 25, 2020, 03:32:31 PM »

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/03/25/chloroquine-use-for-covid-19-shows-no-benefit-in-first-small-but-limited-controlled-trial/?fbclid=IwAR2W3CbvNe8c7WQGPf558nMovzJbE7mjEG_9ZDG9EbK_IymdJnFQxx6E4PU#598c708b4c86

Too small to be relied upon.

But this doctor makes the point that counters the claim that there is no harm in trying the chloroquine or other drugs:
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“Many intensive care clinicians are willing to ‘try anything once’ in these unprecedented times,” said Mel Thomson, PhD, an emerging infectious disease expert and founder at VeraQ Pty Ltd in Australia, who reviewed the data. “Any widespread ‘off label’ use of anti-infective drugs, must be treated with great caution, as the unintended consequences may mean a rise in resistance to these compounds by parasites and bacteria, their original intended targets,” said Dr. Thomson, former principal investigator at Geelong Centre of Emerging infectious Diseases (GCEID) at Deakin Medical School in Geelong, Victoria Australia.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29795 on: March 25, 2020, 03:38:54 PM »

If you went to the store and they were out of Muir Glen organic pasta sauce with cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil and portabella shrooms, and you had to get Ragu with corn slop, and you feel put out...this article is your reality check:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/world/asia/india-lockdown-coronavirus.html

NYT and Post and other major news orgs are providing pandemic articles FREE.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29796 on: March 25, 2020, 04:10:37 PM »

Similar to cancer in a way, I guess.  When you get it - its a matter of luck sometimes how it reacts in you


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/24/westmoreland-hempfield-lisa-duffy-coronavirus-cruise-ship-norwegian-test-COVID-positive/stories/202003230140
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29797 on: March 25, 2020, 05:08:28 PM »

Similar to cancer in a way, I guess.  When you get it - its a matter of luck sometimes how it reacts in you


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/24/westmoreland-hempfield-lisa-duffy-coronavirus-cruise-ship-norwegian-test-COVID-positive/stories/202003230140

Except that in general men are dying at twice the rate that women are.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29798 on: March 25, 2020, 05:44:55 PM »

At CNN the most trusted reporter has been identified as a stopped clock.
In the immortal words of The Man Who Hires Wells, an attempt at humor, I assume?

Still can't decide if the accountant of TMWHW was spared or not.   Neatly packaged ambiguity.
Depends. Did he see him?

Hint: Correct answer: No.

We know the accountant is saying no,  but is Chigurh being ironic when he asks the question,  as in "well,  yes,  of course you saw me,  so it doesn't matter which answer you give... "   Or is the question really giving the acct an out?
Back in the day I got in a month or so long debate on the late, lamented IMDb forums on exactly that point. No definitive conclusions were reached.

Lady W was part of that discussion. She had just abandoned 3rd Eye because a shockingly large number of posters thought calling someone a c**t was hunky dory.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29799 on: March 25, 2020, 06:00:30 PM »

Similar to cancer in a way, I guess.  When you get it - its a matter of luck sometimes how it reacts in you


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/24/westmoreland-hempfield-lisa-duffy-coronavirus-cruise-ship-norwegian-test-COVID-positive/stories/202003230140

Except that in general men are dying at twice the rate that women are.
That’s your supposition but not backed up by reliable scientific data since  a worldwide breakdown of death by sex is incomplete.
We do know that it is true in places like Italy, China, and South Korea where men smokers greatly out number female smokers. The US does not report covid -19 deaths by sex. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29800 on: March 25, 2020, 06:07:56 PM »

http://www.salon.com/2020/03/25/trumps-magical-thinking-snake-oil-an-easter-resurrection-and-killing-nana-for-capitalism/

In a few weeks trump will be selling his shuttered golf courses to the Federal government for use as trump Covid-19 cemeteries (tm). 
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« Reply #29801 on: March 25, 2020, 06:15:50 PM »

Similar to cancer in a way, I guess.  When you get it - its a matter of luck sometimes how it reacts in you


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/24/westmoreland-hempfield-lisa-duffy-coronavirus-cruise-ship-norwegian-test-COVID-positive/stories/202003230140

Except that in general men are dying at twice the rate that women are.
That’s your supposition but not backed up by reliable scientific data since  a worldwide breakdown of death by sex is incomplete.
We do know that it is true in places like Italy, China, and South Korea where men smokers greatly out number female smokers. The US does not report covid -19 deaths by sex.

Oh shut up.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

25 days later:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/coronavirus-gender-mortality-intl/index.html

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In countries such as Italy, men represent nearly 60% of people who tested positive for the virus and more than 70% of those who have died, according to the country's National Health Institute (ISS). Even in countries like South Korea, where the proportion of women who have tested positive for the virus is higher than that of men, about 54% of the reported deaths are among men.

But while health officials are starting to take note of these staggering numbers, the United States is not releasing the basic nationwide data that is crucial to understanding who is most vulnerable to the virus, according to a CNN analysis.
Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's coronavirus response coordinator, said at a White House press briefing on Friday: "From Italy we're seeing another concerning trend. That the mortality in males seems to be twice in every age group of females."
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But across the countries for which we have data - spanning nearly a quarter of the world's population - we found that men were 50% more likely than women to die after being diagnosed with Covid-19.

While necessarily partial and incomplete, the results highlight what public health experts have been warning for some time, theorizing that it is not only biology but also gendered behaviors -- the different ways in which men and women conduct their lives -- which may play a significant role in the different mortality rate for respiratory diseases.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29802 on: March 25, 2020, 06:47:29 PM »

Similar to cancer in a way, I guess.  When you get it - its a matter of luck sometimes how it reacts in you


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/24/westmoreland-hempfield-lisa-duffy-coronavirus-cruise-ship-norwegian-test-COVID-positive/stories/202003230140

Except that in general men are dying at twice the rate that women are.
That’s your supposition but not backed up by reliable scientific data since  a worldwide breakdown of death by sex is incomplete.
We do know that it is true in places like Italy, China, and South Korea where men smokers greatly out number female smokers. The US does not report covid -19 deaths by sex.

Oh shut up.



While necessarily partial and incomplete, the results highlight what public health experts have been warning for some time, theorizing that it is not only biology but also gendered behaviors -- the different ways in which men and women conduct their lives -- which may play a significant role in the different mortality rate for respiratory diseases.[/size]
LOL!
Thanks for agreeing with me.

Here is another factor.
A body of research suggests that women can battle viral infections better than men because they get pregnant. Living with another person inside -- you know a baby, gives  them a survival advantage.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29803 on: March 25, 2020, 06:49:03 PM »

If you went to the store and they were out of Muir Glen organic pasta sauce with cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil and portabella shrooms, and you had to get Ragu with corn slop, and you feel put out...this article is your reality check:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/world/asia/india-lockdown-coronavirus.html

NYT and Post and other major news orgs are providing pandemic articles FREE.

Fox News is offering its channel free on all,platforms. Isn’t that wonderful?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #29804 on: March 25, 2020, 06:51:00 PM »

If you went to the store and they were out of Muir Glen organic pasta sauce with cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil and portabella shrooms, and you had to get Ragu with corn slop, and you feel put out...this article is your reality check:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/world/asia/india-lockdown-coronavirus.html

NYT and Post and other major news orgs are providing pandemic articles FREE.

Fox News is offering its channel free on all,platforms. Isn’t that wonderful?
Still overcharging.
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