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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30510 on: April 01, 2020, 03:32:07 PM »

US differs in quite a few ways from other nations.  More international and interstate travelers is the easy one.

As the virus started spreading in the PRC, Chinese New Year was about to kick in with over 350M Chinese heading to their hometowns, often across the country.  That's more than the entire population of the US was on the move and then set to return 10 days later. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30511 on: April 01, 2020, 03:33:37 PM »

Sorry folks, I usually don't make angry posts -- but sometimes the situation calls for it....

Yes it does.   This whole TDS rhetoric is akin to someone being sneered at for being upset when their house is set on fire.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30512 on: April 01, 2020, 03:37:02 PM »

Rather pointless/useless being on a discussion board with you ...


Rather pointless to judge everything off the early days of this crisis.

Early days being defined as Jan 1 through March 29?
Pop some Advil and chill!
Your TDS is making you ill.

And while you are at it better check on the Politics and Religion room. I hear Barton is raising a ruckus there.

My latest post there was in September.  What in God's holy name are you blathering about?   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30513 on: April 01, 2020, 03:43:15 PM »

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« Reply #30514 on: April 01, 2020, 03:50:59 PM »

By the way, the page you posted a link to - on the multi-colored graph - shows exactly what I mean. Look at the US trajectory when compared to every other country that they graphed.


US differs in quite a few ways from other nations.  More international and interstate travelers is the easy one.

We're not even in the top 10 in international trips per person per year, though we do have the greatest number of domestic trips per person per year.
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« Reply #30515 on: April 01, 2020, 03:52:16 PM »

Rather pointless/useless being on a discussion board with you ...


Rather pointless to judge everything off the early days of this crisis.

Early days being defined as Jan 1 through March 29?
Pop some Advil and chill!
Your TDS is making you ill.

And while you are at it better check on the Politics and Religion room. I hear Barton is raising a ruckus there.

The usual deep point of view, responding cogently to the conversation you've joined, kind of thing we expect from you, Ward.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30517 on: April 01, 2020, 04:13:52 PM »

Overheard on the daily Zoom call:

Teachers want schools to reopen before students learn to think for themselves.
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« Reply #30518 on: April 01, 2020, 04:16:24 PM »

Sorry folks, I usually don't make angry posts -- but sometimes the situation calls for it. 

I guess I can see why most of you just curse out these folks on the right here and treat them with contempt.  The only real conclusion is they are supremely dishonest, disingenuous and/or horrible people.

It's distressing what America has become.  The politics, the culture, the conspiracy theories and science denial, the senseless violence and resurgent racism.  It's become parodic, farcical.  Extremely unfortunate.  Trump winning the presidency was a massive warning at how confused and hopeless and bad things have become.  There's a lot of work to be done to try to straighten things out.  If it can be done.

The Republican Party must go the way of the Whigs they replaced.

One thing Trump has accomplished to get a substantial number of people to mistrust all press.
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« Reply #30519 on: April 01, 2020, 04:17:26 PM »

Fucking April, and finally the Trump Admin seems like they are starting to take the virus seriously


Pretty sure it was being taken seriously when a task force was assembled and incoming flights were stopped from China, then Europe.

But put your Nancy Pelosi wig on.

"What did President Trump know - and when?'

Nancy was asking - had no answers.

I guess you are saying Trump was getting information in briefings from his people - being advised to act a certain way - and IGNORED IT/declined to do so.

Is this your contention?


"Nancy - we're going to follow Leo for now"

-  Vice President John Hoynes


Come on, man - we are listening - paint the picture.  Dont just flail around aimlessly without specifics.

Damn.

This dude is still defending Dave Checketts.
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« Reply #30520 on: April 01, 2020, 04:21:10 PM »

Overheard on the daily Zoom call:

Teachers want schools to reopen before students learn to think for themselves.


And believed by people who don't understand teachers.
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« Reply #30521 on: April 01, 2020, 04:21:42 PM »

Pretty sure it was being taken seriously when a task force was assembled and incoming flights were stopped from China, then Europe.
Come on, man - we are listening - paint the picture.  Dont just flail around aimlessly without specifics.

WTF are you talking about?
What fucking universe do you live in?


Trump made one strong useful early move (banning China flights) and then spent a lot of weeks discounting the threat and rolling out failed tests and failed plans, and treating it all as a PR exercise and not a mortal threat.  Outbreaks were not contained.  Limiting measures were not implemented.

The timeline of Trump downplaying the virus and getting nothing done is out there in the record.  Dr. Fauci even called the testing rollout a failure.   Months into this and there's still a shortage of everything needed.

The question is what did Trump do right from January through April?
I can think of two things: the early flight ban and sending the hospital ship to NYC (after things were hugely bad, of course).  Everything else allowed the virus to spread and the US to be #1 in infections and soon deaths.



Welcome to The GOP’s Earth Two...



In the realm of DC Comics, there are multiple universes with their own version of Earth. These alternative Earths were usually so vastly different that no one would confuse our Earth, that is, Earth One or Earth Prime.  However, the existence of an Earth Two was established and we should wonder how the Republican Party and its supporters wound up living on Earth Two.

This moment has been coming since way before the days the GOP straight up lied the nation into war. This has been a consistent and extremely successful longterm strategy as deliberate as it is insidious. It is, in effect, a Jedi Mind Trick on a massive scale. However we have now arrived at the space and time where the conservative bending of reality has crashed full on into the real-time reality where they are beholden to . . . Donald Trump?


https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2020/02/03/were-living-in-the-republican-partys-altered-states/
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« Reply #30522 on: April 01, 2020, 04:23:07 PM »

Overheard on the daily Zoom call:

Teachers want schools to reopen before students learn to think for themselves.


It would be the absolute end of the republican party, for profit health care, and the petroleum industry.
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« Reply #30523 on: April 01, 2020, 04:25:40 PM »

Final post:  Stay safe.

Good stuff (as usual) keep producing the work!

Hope you’re okay.

Be well, be safe.
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« Reply #30524 on: April 01, 2020, 04:32:05 PM »

Rather pointless/useless being on a discussion board with you ...


Rather pointless to judge everything off the early days of this crisis.

Early days being defined as Jan 1 through March 29?
Pop some Advil and chill!
Your TDS is making you ill.

And while you are at it better check on the Politics and Religion room. I hear Barton is raising a ruckus there.

A best case scenario is 100-200k and you have the nerve to spout some stupid TDS shit?

You and people like you have blood on your hands.
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