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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #30570 on: April 01, 2020, 09:55:10 PM »

Hey, Kid? You chose a funny one to say that about. It was not a projection. It was a FACTUAL representation of March, 2020.


yeah... my bad

I was really trying to take a day off

Didnt watch any coverage today

He was pretty good today.

He even called Dr. Birx "Dr. Birx." It was quite something.
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« Reply #30571 on: April 01, 2020, 09:57:55 PM »

Hey, Kid? You chose a funny one to say that about. It was not a projection. It was a FACTUAL representation of March, 2020.


yeah... my bad

I was really trying to take a day off

Didnt watch any coverage today

He was pretty good today.

He even called Dr. Birx "Dr. Birx." It was quite something.
He also let us know that he's "number one on Facebook."
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« Reply #30572 on: April 01, 2020, 10:14:19 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/testing-backlog-coronavirus-quest-invs/index.html

Quest Diagnostics has a backlog of 160,000 tests (or half the total they have received). It's taking as much as 10 days to get the results out the door atm.
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« Reply #30573 on: April 01, 2020, 10:18:04 PM »

https://abc7.com/officials-engineer-tried-to-smash-train-into-usns-mercy/6069395/?fbclid=IwAR3Mr7VorfwcwtNX8hdPq6sI8bEh9sTVQmTyGTkdvLRL5kaQUXkMG3WqKOA

He believes that the Mercy is not really there for helping to treat people medically, so he decided to ram it with the train to expose what's really going on.
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« Reply #30574 on: April 01, 2020, 10:20:28 PM »

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/gov-charlie-baker-to-provide-coronavirus-update-during-visit-to-worcester-field-hospital/2100603/

Gov. Baker anticipates using college dorms and hotels for hospital bed locations. They're already converting arenas into field hospitals.
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« Reply #30575 on: April 01, 2020, 10:52:58 PM »

Kid, I know you hate the constant negative drumbeat talking about Trump Administration screw-ups and how they are all looking backwards.

And we keep trying to tell you that it is just not all in the past!

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Last week, a Trump administration official working to secure much-needed protective gear for doctors and nurses in the United States had a startling encounter with counterparts in Thailand.

The official asked the Thais for help—only to be informed by the puzzled voices on the other side of the line that a U.S. shipment of the same supplies, the second of two so far, was already on its way to Bangkok.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/31/pence-task-force-coronavirus-aid-157806?fbclid=IwAR0pqy_5TOWwFla3R-fhzk1rRvA0Y1nx2D9FnyYbmKzFnfHQKaKWAb04JLc
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« Reply #30577 on: April 01, 2020, 11:32:34 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/us/politics/coronavirus-ventilators.html?fbclid=IwAR1Y5uF-iqwdpLXjUPY6EovG64-b-7bFgxYcuBEk96xXzrjG5Hojv0h0yHg

This one is on the Trump administration, not on Obama's at all. An equiment maintenance contract ended and this government did not fix it until the crisis had already begun.

A Ventilator Stockpile, With One Hitch: Thousands Do Not Work

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President Trump has repeatedly assured Americans that the federal government is holding 10,000 ventilators in reserve to ship to the hardest-hit hospitals around the nation as they struggle to keep the most critically ill patients alive.

But what federal officials have neglected to mention is that an additional 2,109 lifesaving devices are unavailable after the contract to maintain the government’s stockpile lapsed late last summer, and a contracting dispute meant that a new firm did not begin its work until late January. By then, the coronavirus crisis was already underway.

The revelation came in response to inquiries to the Department of Health and Human Services after state officials reported that some of the ventilators they received were not operational, stoking speculation that the administration had not kept up with the task of maintaining the stockpile.

In fact, the contract with a company that was maintaining the machines expired at the end of last summer, and a contract protest delayed handing the job to Agiliti, a Minneapolis-based provider of medical equipment services and maintenance. Agiliti was not given the $38 million task until late January, when the scope of the global coronavirus crisis was first becoming clear.
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« Reply #30578 on: April 02, 2020, 01:45:10 AM »

“The claim that the United States has more coronavirus deaths than China is false,” Senator Ben Sasse, a Nebraska Republican, said in a statement after Bloomberg News published its report. “Without commenting on any classified information, this much is painfully obvious: The Chinese Communist Party has lied, is lying, and will continue to lie about coronavirus to protect the regime.”

A couple points:
In Hubei (maybe everywhere?) China didn't count in their official tallies people who tested positive and were asymptomatic.  Partly because 1) the tests they used were not very accurate, so they relied on confirming positive test results with pulmonary scans, basically checking for pneumonia.  Asymptomatic folks weren't double-checked that way, but just told to isolate. 
2) Due to a major outbreak, China went with a pretty strict mandatory lockdown in Wuhan and Hubei.  So they weren't really concerned who was positive or not, since they had a province-wide quarantine.  Instead, they focused on who had symptoms, were presumably contagious and needed treatment.  3) Supposedly China ran out of test kits in Hubei at some point, though that was never confirmed.

China said this week they would release the figures on asymptomatic cases that tested positive.  Whether they will do so and if those number will double the test-positive cases in China is unclear.  This is most likely what Sasse is grousing about.


The official case numbers for every country reflect the level and availability of testing, and the quality of the test used.  No one believes the number of test-confirmed cases = the actual number of infected.  It's a proxy and mostly a sign of how many people had symptoms and sought testing/treatment. Quicker, more reliable and widespread testing, which is becoming more available, will of course uncover more infected people.

China, like almost every country, didn't take the virus seriously or take early action until there was a significant and dangerous outbreak.  But China did take measures to contain and limit the spread after things got bad.  These were effective and provided a pretty good model on what works.
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« Reply #30579 on: April 02, 2020, 01:52:40 AM »

I have no idea how many were infected in total in Shanghai.  The official tally is 522 confirmed cases and 6 deaths, with 172 still being treated.  Shanghai employed an 8 week voluntary lockdown in which all non-essential businesses were closed (gun stores, video game sellers and religious buildings didn't get exceptions -- okay so there are no gun stores ...).  Then a 2-week work-at-home gradual re-opening.

Masks, temp checks, limiting access to buildings and alley communities, recording visitors info, etc were deployed and still in use.  All of this was effective and Shanghai, very much China's equivalent of NYC, didn't have any significant outbreak.  In fact, Shanghai sent large numbers of doctors and nurses to Wuhan/Hubei to deal with the outbreak there.   At a nearby hospital where I have friends, the 350 medical professionals who were sent to Hubei just returned to SH two days ago.

Officially the Shanghai count of 522 positives includes 183 who arrived from international travel (including an additional roughly 50 infected returnees over the past 2 weeks), and another 111 who came into Shanghai from other provinces during the outbreak period (some of these likely from Hubei prior to the lockdown there).   Which seems to indicate that there were just 228 cases of transmission in Shanghai.  Which seems very good for a city of 20+M.
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« Reply #30581 on: April 02, 2020, 03:00:03 AM »

What does it say about our country that people are threatening Dr. Fauci?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/anthony-fauci-security-detail/index.html

What does it say about our president when he says this:
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Fauci's response was quickly interrupted by Trump, who stepped up to the podium to say the nation's most visible infectious disease expert doesn't require protection.

"(He) doesn't need security, everybody loves them," said Trump. "Besides that, they'd be in big trouble if they ever attacked."
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« Reply #30583 on: April 02, 2020, 05:05:12 AM »

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« Reply #30584 on: April 02, 2020, 09:04:23 AM »

Much of this is non-supported rubbish.  Thanks for the link.  Some good info in there re:  Europe.
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