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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

With the petroleum market all crashed, Kiid has gone all in for snake oil as the next best thing.

I’m surprised you haven’t gone in for the Mercury cure. There some quack on some other fake news network (probably OAN) pushing that as well.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/coronavirus-testing-173607

Get ready for a long summer in doors.

The dog shit magnate and his crony court have now aptitude for managing anything like this.

[josh]

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147715065001#sp=show-clips

Ah, the noted thoracic surgeon chimes in, to disagree with the epidemiologists and the infectious disease specialists.

Dr. Oz, famous for having had proven that 60% of advice given on his TV show one year lacked scientific basis.

And YOU, Kid, have the nerve to complain when you are called an asshole.

Stop trotting this wannabe out. This is not his field and he shows it almost as much as Trump does every time he opens his mouth.

[josh]

http://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/coronavirus-testing-173607

Get ready for a long summer in doors.

The dog shit magnate and his crony court have now aptitude for managing anything like this.

And we have a shortage of scientists and trained techs to process the tests even when we have the equipment and supplies.

Trump correctly states that we have tested more than any other nation (finally!), but he lies when he says we do it better or more thoroughly in terms of our population.

We're behind Spain and Germany in tests given per million population. We're less than half Italy and less than a third Switzerland. Iceland has tested more than 13 times as many people per million - which then makes it no shock to find that they have less than half the deaths per million that we do.

Then again, the number of places ahead of us on tests per million is 43. Ahead of us with fewer deaths per million are many countries, including both of our immediate neighbors, Canada with 10 and Mexico with 1. We're at 39 deaths per million. The world is averaging 10.5! But not us.

[josh]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-suggests-lawmakers-elizabeth-warrens-212600179.html

Obama endorses Elizabeth Warren

for designer of response to the pandemic.

[josh]

https://theweek.com/speedreads/907534/trump-threatens-freeze-funding-world-health-organization

Trump continues to cast about for a villain to blame for his own failures.

Today, he decided to blame WHO.

[kiidcarter8]

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147715065001#sp=show-clips

Ah, the noted thoracic surgeon chimes in, to disagree with the epidemiologists and the infectious disease specialists.

Dr. Oz, famous for having had proven that 60% of advice given on his TV show one year lacked scientific basis.

And YOU, Kid, have the nerve to complain when you are called an asshole.

Stop trotting this wannabe out. This is not his field and he shows it almost as much as Trump does every time he opens his mouth.

Your naysaying of Oz doesn't lessen his credibility - sorry.

[josh]

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6147715065001#sp=show-clips

Ah, the noted thoracic surgeon chimes in, to disagree with the epidemiologists and the infectious disease specialists.

Dr. Oz, famous for having had proven that 60% of advice given on his TV show one year lacked scientific basis.

And YOU, Kid, have the nerve to complain when you are called an asshole.

Stop trotting this wannabe out. This is not his field and he shows it almost as much as Trump does every time he opens his mouth.

Your naysaying of Oz doesn't lessen his credibility - sorry.

Your defense of his doesn't increase it to the level  of credibility, Kid.

He SOUNDS credible. But he is simply, flatly, unqualified. It's like taking football betting advice from me.

Or safety advice from the Speaker of the House in Wisconsin.

[josh]

https://www.axios.com/wisconsin-republican-speaker-election-coronavirus-dc08a298-2201-440a-9ef0-304f62ca570d.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100&fbclid=IwAR1ga8hj8evMaSLaw8jSbLVLGU8iWiQjSqY16OY21xfHiLaJ-EQeKZjU_gg

The Speaker of the Wisconsin House told listeners that it was "incredibly safe" for them to go vote...

...while he was dressed in mask, gloves, and gown.

"incredibly safe" is perhaps the perfect way to describe it: impossible to believe.

Kind of like Dr. Oz shilling for Donald Trump's company.

[bodiddley]

“We’ve known, literally forever, that diseases like diabetes, hypertension, obesity and asthma are disproportionally afflicting the minority populations, particularly the African Americans," Fauci said.

Sadly, not sure what the answer is here

Sadly Dr. Fauci misuses literally like many.

Isn't this a class issue?
That POOR people are disproportionately obese and unhealthy and eating poorly. And minorities tend to be disproportionately poor -- mainly due to hundreds of years of virulent efforts to ensure that they were poor and poorly educated and unable to compete with whites.  With the poorly educated imperative still baked into the system. 

If you look at it from that perspective it's pretty easy to know what the answers are ...

[josh]

“We’ve known, literally forever, that diseases like diabetes, hypertension, obesity and asthma are disproportionally afflicting the minority populations, particularly the African Americans," Fauci said.

Sadly, not sure what the answer is here

Sadly Dr. Fauci misuses literally like many.

Isn't this a class issue?
That POOR people are disproportionately obese and unhealthy and eating poorly.
And minorities tend to be disproportionately poor -- mainly due to hundreds of years of virulent efforts to ensure that they were poor and poorly educated and unable to compete with whites.  With the poorly educated imperative still baked into the system. 

If you look at it from that perspective it's pretty easy to know what the answers are ...

Yup.

I delineated some of the less bloody ones. Kid had nothing to say about that, preferring infantile fights over Dr. Oz.

[bodiddley]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-suggests-lawmakers-elizabeth-warrens-212600179.html
Obama endorses Elizabeth Warren
for designer of response to the pandemic.

Too bad Obama didn't endorse Warren during the campaign.  It would've been the Biden knockout blow and made Liz the frontrunner and probable winner.
She was clearly the best candidate.  And I'm sure Obama knew that.

[bodiddley]

Really we need a leftwing renaissance, and a leader who will move the pendulum back towards the Left, something Obama failed to (try to) do.  After Bernie's heart attack and Liz's forerunnerocity, it would have been best if Warren's people told Bernie that the Dem establishment was never going to let him win, that milquetoast Biden was going to go back to the Obama playbook of moderate compromising tool.  And if Liz and Bernie had joined forces with Liz declaring Bernie her Veep in waiting.  if the progressives had united, then Biden and the establishment wouldn't have been able to stop them, if Bernie's folks truly got on board. 

Bernie possibly too crotchety and uncompromising to do that, but if his heart condition had laid him up longer and made him miss a month of campaigning, he might have been amenable.  The moderate Dem camp was weak, and the progressives needed to unite behind one candidate.  The op was there.

[josh]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-suggests-lawmakers-elizabeth-warrens-212600179.html
Obama endorses Elizabeth Warren
for designer of response to the pandemic.

Too bad Obama didn't endorse Warren during the campaign.  It would've been the Biden knockout blow and made Liz the frontrunner and probable winner.
She was clearly the best candidate.  And I'm sure Obama knew that.

He meant to stay out of the primaries. He promised he would, after all.

But... by his endorsing Liz's plan, he has pretty much knocked the last nail into Bernie's coffin.

(This is where either Kid or Ward asks why, I imagine.)

[josh]

Really we need a leftwing renaissance, and a leader who will move the pendulum back towards the Left, something Obama failed to (try to) do.  After Bernie's heart attack and Liz's forerunnerocity, it would have been best if Warren's people told Bernie that the Dem establishment was never going to let him win, that milquetoast Biden was going to go back to the Obama playbook of moderate compromising tool.  And if Liz and Bernie had joined forces with Liz declaring Bernie her Veep in waiting.  if the progressives had united, then Biden and the establishment wouldn't have been able to stop them, if Bernie's folks truly got on board. 

Bernie possibly too crotchety and uncompromising to do that, but if his heart condition had laid him up longer and made him miss a month of campaigning, he might have been amenable.  The moderate Dem camp was weak, and the progressives needed to unite behind one candidate.  The op was there.

Gotta disagree with you.

(a) Bernie would hever have listened. Never.
(b) With rare exception, the moderates outnumbered the progressives in state after state.
(c) Liz's apparent ascendency was no more real than Kamala's - neither of them was ever going to win a state. The Democratic Party was tired of fighting the gender wars. (You, too, Amy. No chance ever.) Putting her on the top of the ticket with Bernie as her avowed VP would not have gotten them anywhere. And too many of Bernie's folks had already branded her a corporatist or a traitor or anything but progressive enough. But it was moot - Bernie would never do it.
(d) Coronavirus. The change in Biden's standing had nothing to do with anything Biden did other than say "Ebola, Obama." He went from nearly dead to a huge lead in four or five days because people believe thatJoe will be better able to handle the country's needs in this crisis than anybody available.

I have a couple Bernie lovers who are beside themselves in fury at the folks supporting the Democratic establishment because the betters have said that they think it more likely that Governor Cuomo (7.7%) or Hillary Clinton (6%) would become the nominee than Bernie Sanders (3%). Evidence things are rigged, say they. It's just the pandemic and nothing else.

They can't see it.
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I agree that if Bernie'd been out of the running, there would have been an opportunity for Liz, but I am pretty sure that as soon as the end of February rolled around, the same thing would have happened to her that happened to Bernie - she's have had her head handed to her.