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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/y3m8nv/kamala-harris-president-trumps-failure-to-lead-on-coronavirus-has-resulted-in-body-bags

It's true, but she's running for VP.

It’s true.

Stacey Abrams is running for VP, Warren said shed take VP if offered, Harris is doing her job.

I wonder how many of the top ten we will hear from before Joe makes his pick.

[josh]

https://reason.com/2020/04/17/a-teenager-posted-about-her-covid-19-infection-on-instagram-a-deputy-threatened-to-arrest-her-if-she-didnt-delete-it/?fbclid=IwAR1SV0vwF3F4EkZIcZHRO7RU9wVB2zuv7upxXEtXo0hBCfs88w59gHILH4I

[facilitatorn]

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/trump-coronavirus-ukraine-governors.html

#gitmoalltrumps

[josh]

US President Donald Trump has addressed his recent tweets calling to “liberate” Virginia, Minnesota and Michigan — three political swing states that have Democratic governors.

He said the governors who are implementing federal guidelines for stay-at-home orders to deal with the coronavirus are being “too tough.”

On Virginia, he said,

"What they've done is very powerful. You know you could get the same result with doing a little bit less."

He then went off on a tangent about the Second Amendment and claimed — without proof — that,

"They want to take their guns away."

Virginia has declared that gun stores are not essential businesses during the pandemic.

“I think some things are too tough,” Trump said during Friday’s White House press briefing.

Asked whether those states should lift their stay-at-home orders, Trump said, “No, but I think elements of what they’ve done are too much. It’s just too much.”

The President said he wasn’t concerned about protesters spreading the coronavirus among participants attending demonstrations calling for states to reopen. 

“No, these are people expressing their views. I see the way they are and I see the way they’re working and they seem to be very responsible to me, but they’re been treated a little bit rough,” he said.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/joe-biden-allegations/index.html


The words are, "If he did it, he cannot be president".

[facilitatorn]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/joe-biden-allegations/index.html


The words are, "If he did it, he cannot be president".

Your glass house is in shards around your feet and your pants are around your ankles. You are a no rent Roy Cohn trolling for street action beside the mouth of the Lincoln tunnel.

If that were one, which is highly questionable there are thirty or more hanging around the neck of the imposter.

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Also, I agree that all future presidents should be women so long as they are not republican women.

[bodiddley]

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/y3m8nv/kamala-harris-president-trumps-failure-to-lead-on-coronavirus-has-resulted-in-body-bags

It's true, but she's running for VP.

Great.  She's qualified and would be a nice counter-balance to Biden in many ways.  Female, non-white, young.  She's also tough and well-spoken.  And has campaign experience and a reasonable national profile.  If she was from the Midwest she'd be the obvious choice.

Two negatives.  She's from CA which is a great place to raise money (useful) but extremely Blue already.  And her campaign was a bit poorly run with two power sources, her campaign manager and her sister, which made for some management problems.  If I were on team Biden I would be doing some polling right now on how folks in MI, WI, PA view her.  And check out AZ and FLA as well if you have the time and money.

I was in the bag for Liz Warren.  Thought she was a great candidate, and the right person at the right time.  Harris was my second choice.  I just thought she wasn't ready yet and that 4 or 8 years form now would be her time.  So Veep bridges that very nicely.  After that I had Bern in the show position.  I line up with most of his policy prescriptions, just think he was too old and crotchety and could be steamrolled by the Right (America just doesn't elect socialists who praise Cuba, and since Bernie never was a DEM, it's unlikely the party would rally around him, or let him hijack the party as happened with the GOP and Trump).

[bodiddley]

And he mal-administered a huge freaking health emergency resulting in a crashed economy


Actually the economy being so strong to begin is a key part of withstanding this, though Trump's incredible managerial skill and business acumen is at the forefront.

The Trump tax cuts for the rich, intended to goose the economy, was a big mistake.  And that extra $1T in debt looks much much worse now that the virus has cost an additional $2T and counting.
Biden and the Dems need to hammer at that.  It's basically Trump's signature policy and it was a huge miscalculation.  Wrong policy at the wrong time.

All companies should be paying a minimum of 15% on profits.  End zeroing out and avoiding taxes via various accounting crapola.  Companies making billions in profit and paying zero in taxes is an immoral and disastrous practice.  Amazon $11B last year with $0 fed tax paid.  And then we're told there's no money to fund healthcare, or provide daycare, or be prepared for emergencies. 

[facilitatorn]

http://www.thenation.com/article/politics/coronavirus-trump-immigration-states/

Good to see folks stepping up to lead the country given the fatty obstructions (trumps and trumpists) clogging and neutering the traditional organs of power.

[Yankguy1]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/joe-biden-allegations/index.html


The words are, "If he did it, he cannot be president".

It seems to me that if he did it and then brags about it he might get some Republican votes.

[bodiddley]

My 20% persuadable figure is completely made up.
But I ran into a few suburban folks who voted for Trump, because they either thought the country needed a new direction or a businessman at the helm.  Which makes me think that the Clinton should have gone harder at Trump's bankruptcies and shady dealings.

I'm counting 10% of likely voters and another 10% who likely won't vote.
Turnout always a key issue for Dems.  And Biden is better liked than Hillary.
And white makes support Biden at above-Hillary levels.
Of course, discouraging turnout by whatever means possible (including just getting people disgusted with gov't and all politicians) is the GOP counter-startegy.

[bodiddley]

The Trump tax cuts for the rich, intended to goose the economy, was a big mistake.  And that extra $1T in debt looks much much worse now that the virus has cost an additional $2T and counting.
Biden and the Dems need to hammer at that.  It's basically Trump's signature policy and it was a huge miscalculation.  Wrong policy at the wrong time.

It's largely a replay of W Bush, wherein huge Tax Cuts for the Wealthy were enacted to intentionally squander the Clinton Surplus, and then immediately after he plunged us into Trillion Dollar Wars.

A total lack of foresight and planning.  Irresponsible fiscal management, which intentionally forgoes preparation for emergencies.

[barton]

If Bides were the GOP candidate, Kid would be saying:

It happened 27.years ago.

There are no witnesses.

Reade is a Sanders supporter. 

The DC police report doesn't mention Joe by name.

No previous or subsequent pattern of such assaultive behavior.


Kid's all about defending the accused... when they're Republican.   

[barton]

The Trump tax cuts for the rich, intended to goose the economy, was a big mistake.  And that extra $1T in debt looks much much worse now that the virus has cost an additional $2T and counting.
Biden and the Dems need to hammer at that.  It's basically Trump's signature policy and it was a huge miscalculation.  Wrong policy at the wrong time.

It's largely a replay of W Bush, wherein huge Tax Cuts for the Wealthy were enacted to intentionally squander the Clinton Surplus, and then immediately after he plunged us into Trillion Dollar Wars.

A total lack of foresight and planning.  Irresponsible fiscal management, which intentionally forgoes preparation for emergencies.

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/joe-biden-allegations/index.html


The words are, "If he did it, he cannot be president".

Get the fuck out of here with that hypocritical bullshit.