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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32550 on: April 27, 2020, 09:50:24 AM »

New COVID-19 vaccine shows promise in monkeys. Next step: humans.

A vaccine developed in China was promising in a small trial with rhesus monkeys.  Going to move into clinical trials.

They'll be a lot of vaccine candidates.  China got a head start since they had they virus first.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32551 on: April 27, 2020, 09:57:06 AM »

The cannulas sound great.   Less chance of lung damage,  which is a serious effect of ventilators.   Needs a negative pressure room,  though,  so hospitals could only do this if the patient numbers are low enough. 

I look forward to the Klobuchar administration.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32552 on: April 27, 2020, 10:05:22 AM »

As for remdesivir, hopefully it'll prove out, but I have lots of doubts since it's a failed Ebola treatment that a large drug company is pushing with a well-funded PR campaign.  Early word is not good. Which has been spun into Inconclusive.  We'll see. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32553 on: April 27, 2020, 11:54:35 AM »

(Fake) Patient Zero

Not clear why conspiracists fixated on her.
Or how/why she was supposed to be infected to begin with.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32554 on: April 27, 2020, 11:56:55 AM »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pompeo-us-participant-iran-nuclear-deal-argument

Pompeo preparing argument that US still 'participant' in Iran nuclear deal, in effort to restore UN sanctions

Too fucking funny.




Pompeo told the paper: “We cannot allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to purchase conventional weapons in six months.”

He added, “We are prepared to exercise all of our diplomatic options to ensure the arms embargo stays in place at the U.N. Security Council



The bastard!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32555 on: April 27, 2020, 12:19:42 PM »

As for remdesivir, hopefully it'll prove out, but I have lots of doubts since it's a failed Ebola treatment that a large drug company is pushing with a well-funded PR campaign. Early word is not good. Which has been spun into Inconclusive.  We'll see.



Like I said - earlier headlines were incorrect. 

And like the "other" drug, remdesivir has already helped countless patients through the worst of this virus.  ANECDOTALLY - but I dont think they care how it is categorized.

I like that there are anti-virals being used successfully AS WE SEARCH for the eventual answer.  Imagine if none of them existed.  I guess there would be prayer left.  That's something anyway.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32556 on: April 27, 2020, 01:05:42 PM »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pompeo-us-participant-iran-nuclear-deal-argument

Pompeo preparing argument that US still 'participant' in Iran nuclear deal, in effort to restore UN sanctions

Too fucking funny.




Pompeo told the paper: “We cannot allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to purchase conventional weapons in six months.”

He added, “We are prepared to exercise all of our diplomatic options to ensure the arms embargo stays in place at the U.N. Security Council



The bastard!

Way to avoid the topic, Kid.

Business as usual for you.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32558 on: April 27, 2020, 01:47:30 PM »

The cannulas sound great.   Less chance of lung damage,  which is a serious effect of ventilators.   Needs a negative pressure room,  though,  so hospitals could only do this if the patient numbers are low enough. 

I look forward to the Klobuchar administration.

Klobuchar?

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« Reply #32559 on: April 27, 2020, 01:50:01 PM »

Perhaps successfully.
The truth is we don't really know which drugs deployed have helped, hurt, or been useless.

There's a definite survivor bias at play.
Most folks who get the virus are going to survive it.  I haven't seen figures but I assume that is true of ICU patients as well.  Just because they get better, as most patients do, doesn't mean that any drug given to them is the reason they got better.  But it's easy to believe that any given drug was the reason for the successful convalescence.  While any folks that received any specific drug but died, don't exactly have much chance to spread that news.

Trying unproven drugs is fine when patients are in desperate need of treatment and options are limited and vaccines still some time away.  But studies will determine what works and what doesn't, ascertain safety and dosages and such.  Again, most anti-virals are likely to be of help for those with mild symptoms, if they work at all against Covid-19.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32560 on: April 27, 2020, 02:12:48 PM »

You dont think the state senator from Michigan was helped by hydroxychloroquine?

That Brady's Michigan teammate was spared death by use of hydroxychloroquine?

You believe they'd have recovered anyway.

Noted.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32561 on: April 27, 2020, 02:15:34 PM »

Nicotine patch


Heartburn meds.



Use what you need to.



Live.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #32562 on: April 27, 2020, 02:17:53 PM »

You dont think the state senator from Michigan was helped by hydroxychloroquine?

That Brady's Michigan teammate was spared death by use of hydroxychloroquine?

You believe they'd have recovered anyway.

Noted.

Sucker
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« Reply #32564 on: April 27, 2020, 02:42:22 PM »

You dont think the state senator from Michigan was helped by hydroxychloroquine?

That Brady's Michigan teammate was spared death by use of hydroxychloroquine?

You believe they'd have recovered anyway.

Noted.
You have the analysis backwards. Do you have any evidence other than temporal coincidence, that the Trump wonder drug you have touted in order to help get him reelected helped their recovery, let alone saved their lives.
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