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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Pritzker opens Illinois state parks and golf courses.

[kiidcarter8]

Former director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Thomas Frieden, said Thursday that some activities can resume around the country because "we’re basically over the worst of this phase of the pandemic."

“Things are getting better and we can gradually resume some activities,” Frieden said at a coronavirus media briefing sponsored by the Aspen Institute.  “On the other hand, we’re getting back, not to normal, we’re going to get back to a new normal. And that’s going to include physical distancing, hand sanitizer, face masks and avoidance … of large gatherings where many people come together in one place."
When it comes to summer vacations, beach trips are still a go, Frieden said. Social distancing is still necessary, though, he said.

“Yes, in fact, outdoors places are much safer than indoor places. Beaches, parks, bicycling, hiking. These are great things to do. They’re great for the spirit, and outdoors is a great way to er director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Thomas Frieden, said Thursday that some activities can resume around the country because "we’re basically over the worst of this phase of the pandemic."

“Things are getting better and we can gradually resume some activities,” Frieden said at a coronavirus media briefing sponsored by the Aspen Institute.  “On the other hand, we’re getting back, not to normal, we’re going to get back to a new normal. And that’s going to include physical distancing, hand sanitizer, face masks and avoidance … of large gatherings where many people come together in one place."
When it comes to summer vacations, beach trips are still a go, Frieden said. Social distancing is still necessary, though, he said.

“Yes, in fact, outdoors places are much safer than indoor places. Beaches, parks, bicycling, hiking. These are great things to do. They’re great for the spirit, and outdoors is a great way to reduce risk, he added. “Now to have a 100,000 people on a crowded beach, that’s a little different, but with sensible precautions, the great outdoors is a great way forward

[bankshot1]

Peter Strzok blocked FBI from closing Flynn investigation after it found no 'derogatory information'

By Jerry Dunleavy
Washington Examiner
April 30, 2020 - 3:50 PM


Now-fired special agent Peter Strzok stopped the FBI from closing its investigation into retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn in early January 2017 after uncovering “no derogatory information” on the incoming Trump national security adviser, according to newly released records.

Emails later that month show Strzok, along with then-FBI lawyer Lisa Page and others, sought out ways to continue investigating Flynn, including an email from Strzok admitting that he wanted to use a defensive debriefing of Flynn as a “pretext," after the bureau moved to shut down the case.
The disclosures are among the trove of redacted FBI documents, emails, and text messages released on Thursday that have been touted by Flynn's lawyers as exculpatory evidence heretofore concealed from the defense team.

SQUIRREL!

Or.
Let’s not talk about the Obama KGB -
style FBI sham investigation of Flynn.

and lets not talk about the presiding judge's comments about Flynn "selling out his country" and asking prosecutors after he had seen redacted evidence whether they had considered charging Flynn with treason?

Red's ok with traitors in the government

or fucking inept and corrupt presidents

as long they they're fucking white republicans.

Red's an amoral bigot.

[REDSTATEWARD]

All eyes on Sweden

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europe/sweden-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-intl/index.html


"What's the strategy of the other countries?" he asked. "It [herd immunity] was already the only thing that will eventually stop this, unless there is a vaccine in time, which is quite unlikely.
"The truth is that no one, no one in Sweden, no one elsewhere either, knows what the best strategy is. Time will tell."
He said that he believed that stricter lockdowns "only serve to flatten the curve and flattening the curve doesn't mean that cases disappear -- they are just moved in time."
"And as long as the healthcare system reasonably can cope with and give good care to the ones that need care, it's not clear that having the cases later in time is better."



Yes (see bold).  Because it is NOVEL.

Except...

(a) We already know that Sweden's experiment failed (see prior posts for the evidence)

Sweden’s approach was a success.

Your marching orders are out of date. You can go back to hating those Socialists.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/trump-sweden-paying-heavily-for-not-imposing-coronavirus-lockdown/

LOL.
Nice dodge.

No dodge. Trump undercut his minions again.

Besides, Hitchens's Razor.

Hmmm.
The WHO just endorsed Sweden’s approach.

Be sure to tell Trump.

seems to be more of a problem for you and Josh.

[barton]

Hmmm.
The WHO just endorsed Sweden’s approach.

Is that the WHO your grand poohbah wants to defund? 

[kiidcarter8]

Peter Strzok blocked FBI from closing Flynn investigation after it found no 'derogatory information'

By Jerry Dunleavy
Washington Examiner
April 30, 2020 - 3:50 PM


Now-fired special agent Peter Strzok stopped the FBI from closing its investigation into retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn in early January 2017 after uncovering “no derogatory information” on the incoming Trump national security adviser, according to newly released records.

Emails later that month show Strzok, along with then-FBI lawyer Lisa Page and others, sought out ways to continue investigating Flynn, including an email from Strzok admitting that he wanted to use a defensive debriefing of Flynn as a “pretext," after the bureau moved to shut down the case.
The disclosures are among the trove of redacted FBI documents, emails, and text messages released on Thursday that have been touted by Flynn's lawyers as exculpatory evidence heretofore concealed from the defense team.

SQUIRREL!

Or.
Let’s not talk about the Obama KGB -
style FBI sham investigation of Flynn.

and lets not talk about the presiding judge's comments about Flynn "selling out his country" and asking prosecutors after he had seen redacted evidence whether they had considered charging Flynn with treason?

Red's ok with traitors in the government

or fucking inept and corrupt presidents

as long they they're fucking white republicans.

Red's an amoral bigot.

That's it...

Hoooooooold that ground....

[bankshot1]

Peter Strzok blocked FBI from closing Flynn investigation after it found no 'derogatory information'

By Jerry Dunleavy
Washington Examiner
April 30, 2020 - 3:50 PM


Now-fired special agent Peter Strzok stopped the FBI from closing its investigation into retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn in early January 2017 after uncovering “no derogatory information” on the incoming Trump national security adviser, according to newly released records.

Emails later that month show Strzok, along with then-FBI lawyer Lisa Page and others, sought out ways to continue investigating Flynn, including an email from Strzok admitting that he wanted to use a defensive debriefing of Flynn as a “pretext," after the bureau moved to shut down the case.
The disclosures are among the trove of redacted FBI documents, emails, and text messages released on Thursday that have been touted by Flynn's lawyers as exculpatory evidence heretofore concealed from the defense team.

SQUIRREL!

Or.
Let’s not talk about the Obama KGB -
style FBI sham investigation of Flynn.

and lets not talk about the presiding judge's comments about Flynn "selling out his country" and asking prosecutors after he had seen redacted evidence whether they had considered charging Flynn with treason?

Red's ok with traitors in the government

or fucking inept and corrupt presidents

as long they they're fucking white republicans.

Red's an amoral bigot.

That's it...

Hoooooooold that ground....

That was the judge's opinion of Flynn based on the evidence presented.

My opinion of Red is based on his posting history in Elba.

But I'd wager an impartial judge would think him a fucking a-hole too.

[kiidcarter8]

My opinion of Red is based on his posting history in Elba.



Why would I care about that?

[kiidcarter8]

You see how I dont have to repost the entire conversation?  Take a hint.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Hmmm.
The WHO just endorsed Sweden’s approach.

Is that the WHO your grand poohbah wants to defund?

If you mean Trump, then yes.
I thought you paid attention to the news.
Guess not

[bankshot1]

My opinion of Red is based on his posting history in Elba.



Why would I care about that?

I was responding to your suggesting I hold my ground.

I explained to you

1-there was a judge's opinion

2-there was my opinion.

and I explained the basis of my opinion.

And in the absence of Red not being a bigot and an a-hole its an easy piece of ground to hold.

The judge's opinion on Flynn is the judge's opinion based on evidence presented.

And I'm well aware you are not swayed by facts nor reasoned debate.

You after all have a long history as Elba's village idiot.

[barton]

When it comes to summer vacations, beach trips are still a go, Frieden said. Social distancing is still necessary, though, he said.

We went hiking in the hills today.   In a county with one recorded case of CV19.  Groups very far apart and people stepped off the trail when others passed.   And at 5000 feet,  the UV will kill anything hanging in the air (including my skin).   I have no doubt beaches could be doable,  too,  but as Tom Frieden points out,  social distancing is still necessary.   And that will mean something like numerical limits,  not a free-for-all.   

I understand that restless frustrated feeling,  which makes people want to go crazy and lick a shopping cart handle.   But to indulge the feeling is like indulging the impulse to pour used motor oil down a storm sewer - there's potential harm to others,  and it may not be an 80 year old in a hospice,  it may be someone with years left on the odometer.   And when society validates that kind of risking,  it's not promoting herd immunity, it's promoting culling the herd.   

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/04/30/jared-kushner-has-failed-upward-his-entire-life-now-hes-applied-that-to-a-viral-pandemic/

LOL! Jared has all the attributes of failure, narcissism, and nepotism that Red and Kiid admire and put forward as their core values.

[REDSTATEWARD]

When it comes to summer vacations, beach trips are still a go, Frieden said. Social distancing is still necessary, though, he said.

We went hiking in the hills today.   In a county with one recorded case of CV19.  Groups very far apart and people stepped off the trail when others passed.   And at 5000 feet,  the UV will kill anything hanging in the air (including my skin).   I have no doubt beaches could be doable,  too,  but as Tom Frieden points out,  social distancing is still necessary.   And that will mean something like numerical limits,  not a free-for-all.   

I understand that restless frustrated feeling,  which makes people want to go crazy and lick a shopping cart handle.   But to indulge the feeling is like indulging the impulse to pour used motor oil down a storm sewer - there's potential harm to others,  and it may not be an 80 year old in a hospice,  it may be someone with years left on the odometer.   And when society validates that kind of risking,  it's not promoting herd immunity, it's promoting culling the herd.

But.
What’s the Death toll of 30+ million(and growing) unemployed American workers, the stoppage of out-patient hospital visits for procedures affecting cancer treatments, heart disease surgeries,  or the general reluctance of visiting the ER?  Not to mention suicides and accidental overdoses due to despondency of failing to take care of your family.?
Or the overall effect of shutting down our schools, of turning our economy over to the government and dooming everyone to higher taxes as we run our currency printers 24/7?
Worse. By the end of the year, 8 percent of the world’s population — half a billion people — could be pushed into destitution, largely because of the wave of unemployment brought by virus lockdowns, the United Nations estimates.
We get a daily scorecard on Covid-19 deaths.
The real death toll will be the added ones from the lockdowns. 
And it will take years to make it an official count.

[bambu.]

Many Americans don't seem able to grasp the "social distancing" idea to "make the virus homeless".