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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

It sure is hard to see how we come out of this more united with assholes like you, Kid, or Mr. Cantrell, here, protester for hire.



But to quote somebody more famous than Ms. Winfrey, "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

I'd rather be a fucking loon than a fucking asshole making fun of people for wanting a better world.

[LarryBnDC]

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. Give him someone to blame and he’ll suck your dick and finger your bunghole.”

― Lyndon B. Johnson

[josh]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/south-korea-says-troops-exchanged-fire-along-north-korean-border-n1198846?fbclid=IwAR3QkvBLRFVjXmMuoU5Einejt4Xba_PhmMUKmYIblu1eFBpjg8L-meD3Tlo

[josh]

“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. Give him someone to blame and he’ll suck your dick and finger your bunghole.”

― Lyndon B. Johnson

As Jane Elliot's Blue Eye/Brown Eye exercise demonstrated, without intending to, when we feel, and are treated as if we are, better than somebody else, our performance improves. It requires no evidence other than that repeated message and treatment.

And when we feel a,nd are treated as if we are, beneath others, our performance suffers. It requires no other evidence than that repeated message and treatment.

Elevating one, while lowering the other, will break down friendships as surely as egos.

And it is hard to let go of that attitude once you have gained it.

[LarryBnDC]

This is rough..,


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1256699827628511232.html

[facilitatorn]

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/kayleigh-mcenany-white-house-press-secretary-lies-first-briefing.html

[josh]

This is rough..,


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1256699827628511232.html

Sure is.

I missed that she now says "Oops, I didn't actually make a compiaint about sexual harrassment (let alone sexual assault). I misremembered what I filed or where I filed it or to whom."

My inclination when she came out was to believe her. She makes it very hard. And it has gone from a "He said, she said - but there may be corroborating evidence" to "She said, he said, she revised, she revised, she adjusted..." Joe hasn't claimed "but it was consensual" or "she's not pretty enough" or any such thing. He's just said, "No. It never happened."

Even if it is true, at this point Kid is the only one likely to believe her in this venue, for all that Ward may make snide comments.

[josh]

http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/kayleigh-mcenany-white-house-press-secretary-lies-first-briefing.html

But... she promised!

[bodiddley]

Tara Reade:

“I remember talking about him wanting me to serve drinks because he liked my legs and thought I was pretty and it made me uncomfortable,” Reade said in an interview Friday with The Associated Press.

The main word I used – and I know I didn’t use sexual harassment — I used ‘uncomfortable.’

The AP interviewed Reade in 2019 after she accused Biden of uncomfortable and inappropriate touching.

During one of the April 2019 interviews with the AP, she said Biden rubbed her shoulders and neck and played with her hair. She said she was asked by an aide in Biden’s Senate office to dress more conservatively and told “don’t be so sexy.”

She said of Biden: “I wasn’t scared of him, that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn’t that kind of vibe.”

Well, her story has certainly changed and evolved.  Anything contemporaneously was about Biden making her feel uncomfortable.  Last year she said that she wasn't worried about being assaulted by Biden, just that he was touchy-feely kind of creepy at times.

She hasn't come across as terribly credible.  Wonder what's behind her change of story.  Hard to see this as a big threat to Biden.  Probably mostly a chance to excuse trump's behavior and try to paint the Dems as hypocrites.

I wish some of the reporting was better/more detailed.
How long did Reade work for Biden?  What was her role/duties? How about some interviews with others who worked at the same time who can shed light on her job performance and personality and role in the office and Biden's behavior.

[josh]

[REDSTATEWARD]

Terrorists.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-city-ends-face-mask-rule-shoppers-after-store-employees-n1198736?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3C2vKYe_SDhgfa-dLnl-5qvvCTUi6bIfxleH8w6EoMbCFnvwSb8MKA8H0

Deny it all you will, but threats of violence and other forms of intimidation to get the change you want is terrorism. Even when it doesn't work, let alone when it does.

Not true. 
Any government mandate for wearing a mask that results in a government citation, fine etc could face Constitutional challenges. The store owner can refuse to serve you if the mask order is the posted policy of the store.

Can the government mandate you cover your genitals? Or motorcycle helmet? And fine you if you do not?

It already does in many places.

[bodiddley]

FASCISM!

[bodiddley]

A few days ago at one of these statehouse demos I saw a photo in which someone had  a sign that read Work is Freedom.  And I thought it had definite echoes of the notoriously cynical Auschwitz sign.  Well, now someone was carrying an Arbeit Nacht Frei sign in Illinois.  Seems no accident that they are using this to harass a Jewish governor.  Others had signs comparing the Jewish Gov to Hitler.  Classy.

Otherwise I don't think you can accurately describe a governor as a dictator or fascist.  But I assume of Obama or any Dem had enacted the limited fed lockdown guidance that Trump did, they'd be branded a fascists dictator.  Even W Bush crawled out of his bathtub and said we're all in this health emergency together. 

Biden really needs to bring up the fact that the economy did very well during the Clinton Boom (a Surplus!), and recovered during the Obama era despite constant GOP sabotage.  While the economy crashed into Depression-like status under both W Bush and Trump, and the deficits shot up after they both recklessly and foolishly cut taxes.    W Bush mistakenly started a war and then mismanaged it to death.  Trump added $1T to the deficit for no reason except to try to goose the economy ahead of his reelection, then totally mishandled a health emergency that we had months of notice for.

Elections have consequences.  Stop electing incompetents. 

[Hairy Lime]

Terrorists.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-city-ends-face-mask-rule-shoppers-after-store-employees-n1198736?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3C2vKYe_SDhgfa-dLnl-5qvvCTUi6bIfxleH8w6EoMbCFnvwSb8MKA8H0

Deny it all you will, but threats of violence and other forms of intimidation to get the change you want is terrorism. Even when it doesn't work, let alone when it does.

Not true. 
Any government mandate for wearing a mask that results in a government citation, fine etc could face Constitutional challenges. The store owner can refuse to serve you if the mask order is the posted policy of the store.

Can the government mandate you cover your genitals? Or motorcycle helmet? And fine you if you do not?

It already does in many places.

It was a rhetorical question you blathering idiot. If the government has the power to make you wear a helmet for your safety it has the power to make you wear a mask for the public safety. It is not a close or novel proposition.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Terrorists.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oklahoma-city-ends-face-mask-rule-shoppers-after-store-employees-n1198736?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3C2vKYe_SDhgfa-dLnl-5qvvCTUi6bIfxleH8w6EoMbCFnvwSb8MKA8H0

Deny it all you will, but threats of violence and other forms of intimidation to get the change you want is terrorism. Even when it doesn't work, let alone when it does.

Not true. 
Any government mandate for wearing a mask that results in a government citation, fine etc could face Constitutional challenges. The store owner can refuse to serve you if the mask order is the posted policy of the store.

Can the government mandate you cover your genitals? Or motorcycle helmet? And fine you if you do not?

It already does in many places.

It was a rhetorical question you blathering idiot. If the government has the power to make you wear a helmet for your safety it has the power to make you wear a mask for the public safety. It is not a close or novel proposition.

Then you aren’t paying attention.