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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html

Conversely...

Internal Trump administration projections estimate that about 3,000 Americans will die from the coronavirus every day by June 1, according to CDC documents obtained by the New York Times.

The increased estimates come as states have eased restrictions and after a weekend many Americans spent outside at protests or enjoying spring days in the park. Florida, Colorado, Indiana, Nebraska, South Carolina and West Virginia, among others, moved to loosen restrictions in an attempt to revive a sputtering economy and calm restless residents.
But the projections make clear that these reopenings come with fatal risks.

3,000 per day in June and, for the sake of the discussion, 2,000 - 2,500 per day in May would be 150,000 - 165,000 more deaths by the end of June, which is still well short of the 233,000 beyond predictions of Wharton. But it's more than I was thinking - I was going by an average of 1,500 dead per day from now to the end of June, bumping back towards 2,000 with the changes to reopen, then close again.

[kiidcarter8]

100-220K

Yep - very sad.  China will pay.

Operation WARP SPEED, indeed.  Have to play the hand dealt.

[bodiddley]

Trump will have helped kill a couple hundred thousand Americans through ineptitude.

No Coordinated National Response should be his epitaph.

[kiidcarter8]

“To all the tyrants and mini-tyrants out there trying to shut people in their homes with very little evidence to base it on and treating them like kids in the process, the Bill of Rights was not a suggestion, okay. The Constitution is not optional.”




https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-rips-governors-did-bill-of-rights-take-a-vacation

[kiidcarter8]

Trump will have helped kill a couple hundred thousand Americans through ineptitude.

No Coordinated National Response should be his epitaph.

I am sure til your dying day you will be trying to make it stick

How productive of you....

[Yankguy1]

“To all the tyrants and mini-tyrants out there trying to shut people in their homes with very little evidence to base it on and treating them like kids in the process, the Bill of Rights was not a suggestion, okay. The Constitution is not optional.”




https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-rips-governors-did-bill-of-rights-take-a-vacation

Heh.

[LarryBnDC]

“To all the tyrants and mini-tyrants out there trying to shut people in their homes with very little evidence to base it on and treating them like kids in the process, the Bill of Rights was not a suggestion, okay. The Constitution is not optional.”




https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-rips-governors-did-bill-of-rights-take-a-vacation

Heh.

There’s a scene in Howard Hughes’s ‘Hell’s Angels’ where the German Zeppelin is being pursued by British fighters who are gaining. It’s determined the crew must lighten the ship. After they’ve thrown out everything not bolted down they’re still too heavy to outrun the fighters... and so GOP Trumpists (kiid) be like:

[bankshot1]

Trump will have helped kill a couple hundred thousand Americans through ineptitude.

No Coordinated National Response should be his epitaph.

I am sure til your dying day you will be trying to make it stick

How productive of you....

The history books are starting to be written,

And they will not treat the worst, most corrupt, and dangerously inept president in our history kindly.

Trump's ineptitude and ignoring the science and the facts will lead to needless deaths that may total hundreds of thousands of Americans.

And as Trump eggs ons morons to defy governors and their reasoned state protocols, the revised Federal estimates for CV deaths have doubled.

Trump will gladly kill Americans for a bump in the polls.

As President Trump presses for states to reopen their economies, his administration is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of cases and deaths from the coronavirus over the next several weeks, reaching about 3,000 daily deaths on June 1, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times, nearly double from the current level of about 1,750.

The projections, based on government modeling pulled together in chart form by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, forecast about 200,000 new cases each day by the end of the month, up from about 25,000 cases now.

The numbers underscore a sobering reality: While the United States has been hunkered down for the past seven weeks, not much has changed. And the reopening to the economy will make matters worse.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/04/us/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#link-7b42d0f5

[kiidcarter8]

Trump will gladly kill Americans for a bump in the polls.


He's a murderer

All the best Dem legislators say so.

[bankshot1]

Trump will gladly kill Americans for a bump in the polls.


He's a murderer

All the best Dem legislators say so.

Not much of a rebuttal kid.

But in a glass half-full perspective (or maybe 55% or so) its a positive that most people recognize what a deadly disaster the Donald is.

[josh]

100-220K

Yep - very sad.  China will pay.

Operation WARP SPEED, indeed.  Have to play the hand dealt.

"China will pay," just like Mexico, no doubt.

How is it that you propose China should pay. What punishment do you think the US can inflict on them?

And do you think Trump bears no culpability? How about Kemp?

[josh]

“To all the tyrants and mini-tyrants out there trying to shut people in their homes with very little evidence to base it on and treating them like kids in the process, the Bill of Rights was not a suggestion, okay. The Constitution is not optional.”



https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-rips-governors-did-bill-of-rights-take-a-vacation

Says Kid, trying to add to the death total, while wagging his finger at China.

[kiidcarter8]

"China will pay," just like Mexico, no doubt.


Heh.  Child.

[barton]

The blame China syndrome (ha) is baffling, given the many competent measures they took that were a fairly good model of how to deal.   The conspiracy theories (like Pompeo's idee-fixe about a man-made pathogen) are entirely driven by partisan posturing and not by the science.   

My initial thought on masks (which was based on past training in biology labs) was influenced by the perception that a lot of people didn't understand how to wear them or have sanitized hands when adjusting/removing them.  I came around on mass usage,  partly owing to Bo's nuanced points about containing coughs and their overall mnemonic value.   My own community protection is still focused mainly on social spacing at stores,  using sanitizer after I've touched merchandise and checkout pads and before I touch car keys or surfaces in the car or put on sunglasses.  My lab experience tells me hand-to-face is still the number one pathway.   

I think beaches are okay in the middle of the day when UV is strong and nothing viral will survive on a surface for more than a couple minutes.   But if you play volleyball, FFS wash your hands after you've touched a ball in contact with a dozen other hands.   Especially if playing with people who aren't in your "inner circle. " 

[kiidcarter8]

How is it that you propose China should pay. What punishment do you think the US can inflict on them?


Patience, grasshopper

When the books are written..............

Of course they wont pay as much if we lose this election