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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #33765 on: May 08, 2020, 08:21:25 PM »


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I'd hate to see what happens on a bad week.
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« Reply #33766 on: May 08, 2020, 08:52:51 PM »

Another great report tonight from Tucker Carlson

Andrew Cuomo may not think so

Cites the differences between what Ron DeSantis takes charge of in Florida nursing homes vs the disaster in New York.

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« Reply #33767 on: May 08, 2020, 09:32:17 PM »

that my friend is whistling past the graveyard

I'd hate to see what happens on a bad week.

Thumbs up is for the whole post. After more than a decade here, I’ve finally figured out the message icon function.

I think he is whistling knee deep in the grave while digging it deeper.

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« Reply #33768 on: May 08, 2020, 09:47:14 PM »

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5eb5e109c5b69c4b317a644a

Aside from the light this piece shines on White House willingness to send untold thousands of Americans to their graves purely to goose numbers for their reelection pitch, there’s this tidbit,

“White House spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany said Friday that the documents had not been approved by CDC Director Robert Redfield. The new emails, however, show that Redfield cleared the guidance.”

From a woman who “will never lie to you”, this is just one more example of the trump administration failing to deliver on it’s promises.
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« Reply #33769 on: May 08, 2020, 09:51:03 PM »

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"You don't know half the story."

"You are still not fully informed."

"I'm not keeping score here."


"If they were out and about at restaurants and the like......

shame on those 70 year olds"

Jeez, what an ass you are.

The effect of having the restaurants and bars open is that the folks who work in the nursing homes can and do pick up the bug and bring it back to the not-locked-down facility, where they give it to the residents. Kind of like here in the US, in some places, but not all, because some of them locked down before the government told them they had to.

And since many of their 70+ year olds are not in facilities, they just have to be out in the world, living their, to catch it and get sick.

Your empathy continues to be akin to that of a rock.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #33770 on: May 08, 2020, 10:18:06 PM »



The DOJ has never dropped a case after obtaining a guilty plea.  Never.  Full stop.

It has now.
Makes one wonder how many other Americans have been set up
And sent to priso
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OH PRUNELLA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edr2FI6b3yI
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« Reply #33771 on: May 08, 2020, 10:23:57 PM »

Neighbors' numbers when societies are similar are the only valid comparisons.


Check Belgium


Oh, you mean like Boston's good neighbor, CHARLOTTE, NC (for Gothenburg to Brussels) or perhaps ATLANTA (for Stockholm)?!

Belgium is not a neighbor of Sweden, Kid. Belgium's neighbors are Netherlands and France.

Belgium deaths/mil: 735
Netherlands deaths/mil: 313
France deaths/mil: 402


I gave you Sweden's neighbors.


If you want to argue that Germany is a neighbor of Sweden's, while you'd be wrong, it is at least closer and directly connected by highway (through Denmark).
German deaths/mil: 90
Denmark deaths/mil: 90
Sweden deaths/mil: 314, just above Netherlands.

But, as you would say, get all the facts!

Why is the death rate so high in Belgium? Funny you should ask:
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Belgium has surged to the top of the grim leaderboard because authorities decided to be radically transparent, if perhaps a bit speculative, about the toll from the novel coronavirus. They include not only deaths that are confirmed to be virus-related, but even those suspected of being linked, whether the victim was tested or not.

As of Wednesday, Belgium, with a population of over 11.4 million, has counted a total 6,262 deaths from COVID-19 — roughly 540 per million citizens — and more than half of those deaths were in nursing homes. Of those 52%, just 4.5% were confirmed as having been infected, yet all are counted in the national tally.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/22/841005901/why-belgiums-death-rate-is-so-high-it-counts-lots-of-suspected-covid-19-cases --> 16 days ago.

So, yeah, Kid. Look at Belgium. Please.
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« Reply #33772 on: May 08, 2020, 10:28:21 PM »

I claim no legal expertise,  but doesn't pleading guilty mean you have openly admitted your guilt?    Help us out here,  legal experts!   I need to find ways to tart up my tautologies!
SCOTUS on Wednesday threw out the New Jersey case called Bridgegate where two state political appointees were charged with abuse of power and both pled guilty. But the UNANIMOUS  ruled the prosecutors made up a crime to punish political opponents. The Flynn case has different circumstances  the Justice Department now  says the Government used its force to prosecute and punish a political opponent.
Their guilty plea is still an admission of the underlying facts. They could only appeal on the issue of whether the underlying facts constituted a crime. No one is arguing that the facts Flynn admitted did not constitute a crime. The claim was apparently that the Trump justice department charged a Trump loyalist and Trump administration official without sufficient prediction or connection between the questioning and the investigation. Because, apparently,  asking someone under investigation for contacts with Russia about contacts with Russia is not connected with the investigation about contacts with Russia.
LOL.
The  logic-bending in wordsmithing aside, your argument fails.
Flynn was asked a entrapment question which the interrogators already knew the answer to because the FBI had tapped his phone.! The only purpose for asking the question was to create a crime of “ lying” to the FBI. The phone tap was illegal. Evidence, among others, that the prosecutors withheld.  Hence the change of mind by Justice.
Judge Sullivan makes the final call.
The phone tap was not illegal, there was a warrant. And yes, law enforcement uses the perjury trap as an investigative tool all the time,.precisely as they used it here: to obtain the cooperation of an unwilling witness.
LOL

Even after its misconduct the prosecution admitted it had no case for collusion. So Comey maneuvered to get a Special prosecutor whose parameters would be to look for finding crimes, ANY crimes, even made up ones. Hence the Flynn case among others like Paige, Manafort, Stone, etc.
As is now clear  Mueller really was engaging in a coverup of Justice and FBI misconduct.
Pretty sleazy.

Irony.

A black man who grew up through the age J. Edgar Hoover and COINTELPRO has more faith in the FBI than conservatives and Republicans.
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« Reply #33773 on: May 08, 2020, 10:31:40 PM »

Bars remained open.


Table service

Recommended distancing

You and Needs had a different picture - of a packed 4 deep at the bar gathering.

Nope.  Unless they werent adhering.

"Recommended" distancing, Kid. And even then not until the end of March, if I am not mistaken.

Recommended doesn't work. They staked their lives on it. And it failed.

WE didn't have the pictures. People in SWEDEN had the pictures.

April 11, in Stockholm:




April 5, Malmo:


April 4, Stockhom:


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« Reply #33774 on: May 08, 2020, 10:44:30 PM »

That's not everywhere or everybody, Kid.







But still...


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« Reply #33775 on: May 08, 2020, 10:46:56 PM »

You've only change to the "don't compare numbers with neighbors" bullshit because the numbers you kept trying to compare ("fewer tests," for example) didn't work. If the numbers were in your favor, you would keep trotting them out the same way you kept bringing out the French sham study on hydroxychloroquine.



Just a little thing -

you went right to Taiwan....

no noting travellers from other Scandinavian nations compared to Sweden

Still not keeping score.

In THAT response, I went to Taiwan. Between then and your response, I also noted when Norway clamped down on folks flying in: FEBRUARY 27th! As of that date, everybody flying into Norway was put in 14 day quarantine, regardless of origin, nationality, or lack of positive test.
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« Reply #33776 on: May 08, 2020, 10:47:56 PM »

FARKAS!!!


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-congressional-candidate-in-released-transcript-admits-she-didnt-know-about-trump-russia-collusion

You won't be disapponted kid, eventually Trump farks everything he touchs



Trump had a good week

Led by the nose (and the stock market).

That must be why he was screaming at his campaign manager and threatening to sue.
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« Reply #33777 on: May 08, 2020, 10:48:36 PM »

Another great report tonight from Tucker Carlson

Andrew Cuomo may not think so

Cites the differences between what Ron DeSantis takes charge of in Florida nursing homes vs the disaster in New York.

And the beaches in NY vs. in Florida!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #33778 on: May 08, 2020, 11:20:30 PM »

Belgium is not a neighbor of Sweden, Kid.


Right, phallus.
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« Reply #33779 on: May 09, 2020, 12:05:58 AM »

Belgium is not a neighbor of Sweden, Kid.


Right, phallus.

Such a cogent answer.

Ever consider just admitting that you're wrong?
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