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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35205 on: May 26, 2020, 06:51:53 PM »

Please give examples of how Trump created a booming economy.


Business owners, not governments, create jobs

Trump and his people just made this process much, much easier.
Not in any way discernible from the numbers.

Employers do not hire people because the process is easier. They hire them because they need workers for production.
Naive. The effect of regulation roll - backs by the Trump Administration led to the best labor market in history, especially for minorities.
But what about all the deaths and harm to health by environmental and safety roll backs? Not so long ago you were all about the negative health side effects of policy. What changed?

There is no evidence to support the "led to". But then like kiid you correlate coincidence with causation when it suits your purpose.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35206 on: May 26, 2020, 06:57:40 PM »

Please give examples of how Trump created a booming economy.


Business owners, not governments, create jobs

Trump and his people just made this process much, much easier.
Not in any way discernible from the numbers.

Employers do not hire people because the process is easier. They hire them because they need workers for production.
Naive. The effect of regulation roll - backs by the Trump Administration led to the best labor market in history, especially for minorities.
But what about all the deaths and harm to health by environmental and safety roll backs? Not so long ago you were all about the negative health side effects of policy. What changed?

There is no evidence to support the "led to".
. Except that there is.
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But then like kiid you correlate coincidence with causation when it suits your purpose.
Keep juggling the Apple and oranges.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35207 on: May 26, 2020, 06:59:40 PM »

Of course the housing bubble was a creation of the Government mishandling of Mortages...

Yeah.  Ok.  I'll let you get back to shaping your tin foil hat.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35208 on: May 26, 2020, 07:00:59 PM »


The policies have created the greatest global economic disruption in history, with trillions of dollars of lost economic output. These financial losses have been falsely portrayed as purely economic. To the contrary, using numerous National Institutes of Health Public Access publications, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Bureau of Labor Statistics data, and various actuarial tables, we calculate that these policies will cause devastating non-economic consequences that will total millions of accumulated years of life lost in the United States, far beyond what the virus itself has caused.



https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/499394-the-covid-19-shutdown-will-cost-americans-millions-of-years-of-life

  Oddly, Scott W. Atlas, John R. Birge, Ralphy Keeney and Alexander Lipton don't seem to offer any opinion as to what would have happened if millions of people (here and world wide) would have died if governments did not apply a "COVID-19 mitigation policy of broad societal lockdown focuse[d] on containing the spread of the disease at all costs.
That would have been speculative, at best, and not very shocking.
The report they did put together relied on facts reported by
National Institutes of Health, Public Access publications, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Bureau of Labor Statistics data, and various actuarial tables.
In just the US alone 38 million people are out of work.
The 100,000 deaths reflect, at minimum, 67,000 people who were not part of the work force.

In most of the remaining cases some never got sick and most of the others returned to work shortly after recovering from mild symptoms.

Tote that barge...
https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2020/05/19/make-no-mistake-the-reopen-protests-are-all-about-white-privilege/


White folks appear to be ready to sacrifice Gramps so they can get back to their everyday of hamburgers, water parks and hairdos, even though we are in the midst of a global pandemic that has killed 90,000 Americans to date.




A fucking broken record...

Where’s the lie?

No, no - keep it up

Plays quite well to your audience

If you have the balls, publish on a more down the middle medium.

Why?

I know my audience. I’m not trying convert you I’m here to mock you.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35209 on: May 26, 2020, 07:01:55 PM »

Please give examples of how Trump created a booming economy.


Business owners, not governments, create jobs

Trump and his people just made this process much, much easier.
Not in any way discernible from the numbers.

Employers do not hire people because the process is easier. They hire them because they need workers for production.
Naive. The effect of regulation roll - backs by the Trump Administration led to the best labor market in history, especially for minorities.

Like we said back n the 90s,

“Clinton created a lot of jobs... and me and wife have five of them.”

Then Bush II and the GOP crashed the economy in 2008 and a lot of us lost everything.

Then Trump comes along and coasts n the Obama economy while rolling back regulations creating environmental racism. But folks hey! Everybody had two gigs and a side hustle...

I have friends who are adjuncts, researchers and Uber drivers...

Now Trump and the GOP have nuked everything so here we are again except this time your job could cost you your life. Folks who rebuilt their business are busted again.

Trump has done nothing but afflict pain.


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35210 on: May 26, 2020, 07:02:09 PM »

This should be a fun ride

Economy at its lowest quarter 2 - Trump down in polls - then SOARS in 3rd quarter as Biden camp scrambles

Good theatre indeed.

All a game to Kid, while many people are unnecessarily dying because of GOP failures to lead, instead of reacting.

I'm safe from his inane response, though, because he's (pretending he's) got me on ignore.
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« Reply #35211 on: May 26, 2020, 07:05:35 PM »

Please give examples of how Trump created a booming economy.


Business owners, not governments, create jobs

Trump and his people just made this process much, much easier.
Not in any way discernible from the numbers.

Employers do not hire people because the process is easier. They hire them because they need workers for production.
Naive. The effect of regulation roll - backs by the Trump Administration led to the best labor market in history, especially for minorities.

Like we said back n the 90s,

“Clinton created a lot of jobs... and me and wife have five of them.”

Then Bush II and the GOP crashed the economy in 2008 and a lot of us lost everything.

Then Trump comes along and coasts n the Obama economy while rolling back regulations creating environmental racism. But folks hey! Everybody had two gigs and a side hustle...

I have friends who are adjuncts, researchers and Uber drivers...

Now Trump and the GOP have nuked everything so here we are again except this time your job could cost you your life. Folks who rebuilt their business are busted again.

Trump has done nothing but afflict pain. .

"Then Trump comes along ... rolling back regulations creating environmental racism..."

Creating even more environmental racism.

It didn't stop during the Clinton or Obama administrations, even if it wasn't expanding quite as fast.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35212 on: May 26, 2020, 07:12:17 PM »

Please give examples of how Trump created a booming economy.


Business owners, not governments, create jobs

Trump and his people just made this process much, much easier.
Not in any way discernible from the numbers.

Employers do not hire people because the process is easier. They hire them because they need workers for production.
Naive. The effect of regulation roll - backs by the Trump Administration led to the best labor market in history, especially for minorities.

Like we said back n the 90s,

“Clinton created a lot of jobs... and me and wife have five of them.”

Then Bush II and the GOP crashed the economy in 2008 and a lot of us lost everything.

Then Trump comes along and coasts n the Obama economy while rolling back regulations creating environmental racism. But folks hey! Everybody had two gigs and a side hustle...

I have friends who are adjuncts, researchers and Uber drivers...

Now Trump and the GOP have nuked everything so here we are again except this time your job could cost you your life. Folks who rebuilt their business are busted again.

Trump has done nothing but afflict pain. .

"Then Trump comes along ... rolling back regulations creating environmental racism..."

Creating even more environmental racism.

It didn't stop during the Clinton or Obama administrations, even if it wasn't expanding quite as fast.

“More”

Ok?

Think about what you just did,
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35213 on: May 26, 2020, 07:12:36 PM »

This should be a fun ride

Economy at its lowest quarter 2 - Trump down in polls - then SOARS in 3rd quarter as Biden camp scrambles

Good theatre indeed.


Fun, huh?

So what if we gotta sacrifice Grandma and 100K other losers.

Fuck you.
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« Reply #35214 on: May 26, 2020, 07:14:33 PM »

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-police-george-floyd-fatal-arrest-officer-kneeling-neck/?fbclid=IwAR2uBvwoLBHe4zDGmiNmW7g0lE1-ZW36CTMznbUxHcLNm9ZfWAel_wb_9ho

Listening to the overnight police press report is nauseating for its attempt to paint them as responsive to the health concerns, ignoring the policeman kneeling on Mr. Floyd's neck even as the EMTs arrived.
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« Reply #35215 on: May 26, 2020, 07:18:20 PM »

Please give examples of how Trump created a booming economy.


Business owners, not governments, create jobs

Trump and his people just made this process much, much easier.
Not in any way discernible from the numbers.

Employers do not hire people because the process is easier. They hire them because they need workers for production.
Naive. The effect of regulation roll - backs by the Trump Administration led to the best labor market in history, especially for minorities.

Like we said back n the 90s,

“Clinton created a lot of jobs... and me and wife have five of them.”

Then Bush II and the GOP crashed the economy in 2008 and a lot of us lost everything.

Then Trump comes along and coasts n the Obama economy while rolling back regulations creating environmental racism. But folks hey! Everybody had two gigs and a side hustle...

I have friends who are adjuncts, researchers and Uber drivers...

Now Trump and the GOP have nuked everything so here we are again except this time your job could cost you your life. Folks who rebuilt their business are busted again.

Trump has done nothing but afflict pain. .

"Then Trump comes along ... rolling back regulations creating environmental racism..."

Creating even more environmental racism.

It didn't stop during the Clinton or Obama administrations, even if it wasn't expanding quite as fast.

“More”

Ok?

Think about what you just did,

Not sure what you're driving at, Larry.

We've been watching environmental racism play out for decades, whether it's Flint's water supply or East St. Louis' neighbors dumping pollution into their water and air after creating fake towns to get out from under the city's governance or a host of others.

It's worse under Trump, through his cutting of regs and refusal to enforce those that have not been cut. But it sucked before him, too.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35216 on: May 26, 2020, 07:27:26 PM »

What the hell is “ environmental racism”?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #35217 on: May 26, 2020, 07:39:19 PM »

Marco Rubio

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#China’s Communist Party is trying to have it both ways with #HongKong

Keep “ One Country, Two Systems” on economic matters but create “One Country, One System” on political freedoms     

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It is sad in China, their army oppresses them instead of protecting and serving them. Could you imagine being in an army where you were asked to oppress your own people?

I had a roommate in Malibu who was the daughter of a general in China, and I talked with her for hours about how to help China to evolve peacefully. It will take wisdom and patience for China to evolve peacefully.

One good role model is Poland, and Lech Walesa, Poland gained their freedom, the USSR crumbled, and the Berlin Wall came down, and they did it all peacefully with a labor movement. Over three hundred million people received better human rights, and they did it all peacefully. The same thing can happen in China.

Taiwan needs independence, and so does Hong Kong, and the mainland needs to have a labor movement and healthy evolution, improved human rights, and higher pay for workers. No more slavery, the people need to be treated like human beings, with good human rights, and with fair pay and good treatment.

Salute,

Tony V.     

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Dengfeng Liang

Tony V You are like a mental patient. I think you should be more concerned about your own country and family than other countries and families.     

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Dengfeng Liang My state of California lost over 500,000 jobs to slavery in communist China recently, we need fair trade, and our people need jobs too. You better wake up. And the people of China need good human rights, and also the people need Jesus, they need freedom of religion. By stealing our jobs you have become involved in our business, so now it is about us, and so be aware of that. It is personal now.

Salute,

Tony V.
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« Reply #35219 on: May 26, 2020, 07:43:23 PM »

What the hell is “ environmental racism”?

I know, such a tough concept when two words are strung together like that.

And Bing! All knowledge of Google flies right out of your head.
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