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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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bambu.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37140 on: June 07, 2020, 10:16:41 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vpzpjKVsw
"Most Armed Man in America" on guns

He's ready!
He lives alone, has 'girls' for company, he talks to them about his guns, doesn't care if they like to or not.

He used to get beaten up...not anymore.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37141 on: June 07, 2020, 10:21:01 PM »

25th or impeachment options are just not going to happen unless Mousse O'Leany starts decapitating Girl Scouts and knocking their heads around the WH lawn with a croquet mallet.   I like joining in contemplation of the scenario, but it feels like contemplating benevolent aliens landing and taking away all our nukes:  fun but pure fantasy.   And if anyone tried,  Rethugs would make endless political hay about "purely political stunts while we need to be working together to deal with the current crisis...."  IOW,  gaslighting and hypocrisy to the max.

My point was simple enough, I thought.  If you really think Trump is ignoring the Constitution and is a threat to Democracy then you need to say more than “I’m going to vote for Biden.”
What part of the Constitution is Trump
“ ignoring”?

Oh, shut the fuck up
LOL!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37142 on: June 07, 2020, 10:22:17 PM »

people in their early twenties went from Barack Obama to Donald Trump.


Trump   18-24 -   35%

Trump - 25-29 -    39%


Obama had 60% of each in 2012
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37143 on: June 07, 2020, 10:22:45 PM »

Joe Biden ain’t Hillary Clinton.


Right

Loses the  "cuz she got ovaries" vote.

Fortunately, Joe wins the "has balls, not just pretend" vote and the "he may not have ovaries, but at least he doesn't brag about grabbing mine" vote.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37144 on: June 07, 2020, 10:23:58 PM »

people in their early twenties went from Barack Obama to Donald Trump.


Trump   18-24 -   35%

Trump - 25-29 -    39%


Obama had 60% of each in 2012

How do those numbers for Trump show that they shifted to him or do you mean to show that they didn't shift to him?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37145 on: June 07, 2020, 10:25:08 PM »

Fearful of civil war, Americans are buying guns and bunkers.

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No surprise to me. If I lived there I'd be doing the same thing.

The govt has lost control of the streets and therefore society.
No, they haven't you antipodal coward RACIST.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37146 on: June 07, 2020, 10:25:28 PM »

Achtung


Bitches


I been saying this for damn near three years.

He tried it. He failed.

The Trump presidency ended in Lafayette Square.

Before that.

Unless........

(you'd think Ol' Joe would be more than +5 by now, right?   Right?)

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37147 on: June 07, 2020, 10:27:11 PM »

Fearful of civil war, Americans are buying guns and bunkers.

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No surprise to me. If I lived there I'd be doing the same thing.

The govt has lost control of the streets and therefore society.
No, they haven't you antipodal coward RACIST.

He's right. Bu

Its under control

Except for Portland - and that's a fucking sewer so ce la vie.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37148 on: June 07, 2020, 10:28:32 PM »

people in their early twenties went from Barack Obama to Donald Trump.


Trump   18-24 -   35%

Trump - 25-29 -    39%


Obama had 60% of each in 2012

How do those numbers for Trump show that they shifted to him or do you mean to show that they didn't shift to him?

Read the thread, for fuck's sake.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37149 on: June 07, 2020, 10:29:37 PM »

Joe Biden ain’t Hillary Clinton.


Right

Loses the  "cuz she got ovaries" vote.
You may want to take a glance at Trump's poll numbers among women. Especially suburban women.

 To the extent Biden loses women votes, he will gain from the lower negatives and Trump no longer getting 2/3 of the "I hate both, might as well take a chance on the new guy " vote.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37150 on: June 07, 2020, 10:31:18 PM »

You'd think. Boz - but dont expect accurate polling

And remember - we are suppressing the fuck out of it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #37151 on: June 07, 2020, 10:34:05 PM »

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« Reply #37153 on: June 07, 2020, 10:45:17 PM »

But I do believe Trump will still be president for another 4 years.   
By hook or by crook.   Maybe especially by crook.   
He has his supporters who
A) Will vote Trump no matter what
B) Will try to suppress the vote
C) Will occupy D.C. regardless of the outcome of the election, claiming widespread Voter FRAUD etc..

I do not see how there is a peaceful transition of power.
America is not a democracy any more.
The electoral college always made a mockery of that notion, and now the rabid Trump base will put that notion to rest permanently.

I hope I am wrong.
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« Reply #37154 on: June 07, 2020, 10:50:32 PM »

And similarly, we've been considering his resistance to being replaced when he loses for years.

Again, to remind you (and bankshot1) the context of the discussion is Republican resistance.  Yeah, of course we have known about Trump's authoritarian tendencies for years.  But there was a time when those concerns could be dismissed as the fever dreams of the Left.  We knew what kind of person Trump was, but someone in denial could look away.

There is no possible way to do that now. 

45% job approval.

Plenty of ways to deny it and even a few ways to approve of it.

What do you call the guy who gets 45% in a two person race?

Loser.

(a) Sure, but that wasn't the topic. It was whether there were people who don't believe Trump capable of trying to stay in office even though he lost.

(b) To which I added "or who would even be in favor of it."
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(c) There is no reason to believe it will remain a two person race.

Yeah, who?

This ain’t 2016.

Joe Biden ain’t Hillary Clinton.

Jo Jorgensen, who you might say "ain't Gary Johnson."

The Libertarian Party had enough votes in the 2016 election to potentially have changed the outcome in eleven states and one congressional district. It took away from Trump, but did not give to Clinton. We don't know where those votes would have gone, but for Johnson.

In 4 or 5 of those states, the Green Party, too, had enough votes to more than make up the difference. I don't think the Greens will be as important this cycle as they were last, but I am less sanguine about the Libertarians.

I don't know what the room of people who are not following the race closely is like, Larry.
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