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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40935 on: July 01, 2020, 02:27:42 PM »

https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/protesters-say-aurora-pd-used-force-at-elijah-mcclain-vigil.html?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&fbclid=IwAR2romJMIY8PJIRR_RA7XUgGgFixrXjV1Pv8LkhTeXzrFuPB4issJankEjw

Good work, Aurora PD. Keep those violin vigils in their place!

This is what happens when anarchist rioting protesters make society sick of them,  the violin vigil folk  pay a price.

Like Australia, America has a Constitution.  There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution.  The very first amendment gives people the right to assemble peacefully.  The police in Aurora trampled on those rights.  It seems you want to live in a totalitarian society, not a free one.

I want to, and do for the most part, live in a  free one, where the laws, rules made by elected federal and state ( states have their own constitutions) politicians, city officials, and local govts are obeyed/followed by the People.
Cities operate as usual,  businesses do their best to make a profit etc. Commuters commute.
Then all of a sudden some people decide they're going to invade part of a city, occupy an intersection right at morning peak hour, glue themselves to the road, and throw the whole city into chaos.
It should not be allowed.

In normal times I would say the the violin vigil would've hardly been noticed.
However these are not normal ties.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40936 on: July 01, 2020, 02:33:53 PM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40937 on: July 01, 2020, 02:35:09 PM »

Overall I'd say it was another great week for Trump!



Trump does NOTHING that is not genuine.  Nothing just to get elected. 

Everyone who has been around trump says just the opposite.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40938 on: July 01, 2020, 02:37:18 PM »

Russia did pay extremists to attack US soldiers in Afghanistan, according to 3 separate Taliban sources

Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

The practice was first reported on Friday by The New York Times, which cited US intelligence officials.

President Donald Trump has since strongly denied that he was told of this intelligence and attacked its credibility, characterizing the existence of Russian bounty payments as fake.

But three separate Taliban sources told Insider they were aware of Russian bounty payments being made — though they said only the less-disciplined elements on the fringes of the group would take up such an offer.


https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-did-pay-extremists-attack-american-soldiers-taliban-sources-say-2020-7

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40939 on: July 01, 2020, 02:38:57 PM »

Trump has been a long-time pious Christian  with a pentecostal's appreciation of Two Corinthians. 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40940 on: July 01, 2020, 02:41:23 PM »

Overall I'd say it was another great week for Trump!



Trump does NOTHING that is not genuine.  Nothing just to get elected. 

Everyone who has been around trump says just the opposite.

Its so telling that kiidcarter8 can't even say like "ok, maybe some things Trump does are politically motivated, but generally he really thinks he is doing the right thing for the country."

No, the guy is a 100% selfless, a fucking US Saint, who only thinks of others never himself.

It gives new meaning to the term cult of personality.  Or maybe its the exact meaning.  Either way, its really sad to see a brain curdled to that degree.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40941 on: July 01, 2020, 02:44:01 PM »

How did I get this virus?  I was so careful


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/health/peyton-chesser-coronavirus-texas/index.html



Probably from her roommate.
 
yes...and maybe

"resumed shopping trips and went to the gym" .
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« Reply #40942 on: July 01, 2020, 02:51:56 PM »

https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/protesters-say-aurora-pd-used-force-at-elijah-mcclain-vigil.html?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&fbclid=IwAR2romJMIY8PJIRR_RA7XUgGgFixrXjV1Pv8LkhTeXzrFuPB4issJankEjw

Good work, Aurora PD. Keep those violin vigils in their place!

This is what happens when anarchist rioting protesters make society sick of them,  the violin vigil folk  pay a price.

Like Australia, America has a Constitution.  There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution.  The very first amendment gives people the right to assemble peacefully.  The police in Aurora trampled on those rights.  It seems you want to live in a totalitarian society, not a free one.

I want to, and do for the most part, live in a  free one, where the laws, rules made by elected federal and state ( states have their own constitutions) politicians, city officials, and local govts are obeyed/followed by the People.
Cities operate as usual,  businesses do their best to make a profit etc. Commuters commute.
Then all of a sudden some people decide they're going to invade part of a city, occupy an intersection right at morning peak hour, glue themselves to the road, and throw the whole city into chaos.
It should not be allowed.

In normal times I would say the the violin vigil would've hardly been noticed.
However these are not normal ties.

So... if that is a good excuse for any behavior  "These are not normal times"  that is the same response anyone could use the argue against your posts.

Protestors shouldn't march near white people's homes inciting fear- well, sorry these are not normal times
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40943 on: July 01, 2020, 03:09:11 PM »

https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/protesters-say-aurora-pd-used-force-at-elijah-mcclain-vigil.html?utm_source=fb&utm_campaign=nym&utm_medium=s1&fbclid=IwAR2romJMIY8PJIRR_RA7XUgGgFixrXjV1Pv8LkhTeXzrFuPB4issJankEjw

Good work, Aurora PD. Keep those violin vigils in their place!

This is what happens when anarchist rioting protesters make society sick of them,  the violin vigil folk  pay a price.

Like Australia, America has a Constitution.  There have been 27 amendments to the US Constitution.  The very first amendment gives people the right to assemble peacefully.  The police in Aurora trampled on those rights.  It seems you want to live in a totalitarian society, not a free one.

I want to, and do for the most part, live in a  free one, where the laws, rules made by elected federal and state ( states have their own constitutions) politicians, city officials, and local govts are obeyed/followed by the People.
Cities operate as usual,  businesses do their best to make a profit etc. Commuters commute.
Then all of a sudden some people decide they're going to invade part of a city, occupy an intersection right at morning peak hour, glue themselves to the road, and throw the whole city into chaos.
It should not be allowed.

In normal times I would say the the violin vigil would've hardly been noticed.
However these are not normal ties.

So... if that is a good excuse for any behavior  "These are not normal times"  that is the same response anyone could use the argue against your posts.

Protestors shouldn't march near white people's homes inciting fear- well, sorry these are not normal times

By the time the violin vigil folk arrived...society had decided it was fed up with massed gatherings that were usually  turning violent.
Want to blame someone for the actions of Aurora PD...you can blame Aurora PD in part, and can blame others as well, you know who.

Protesters shouldn't be marching near anyone's homes causing fear.
And certainly should not be trespassing on private property.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #40944 on: July 01, 2020, 03:15:48 PM »

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically despite the fact that outside of himself, members of Congress and our NATO allies have all been briefed, and not one of them has said the intelligence is made up. 

Our "president" is doing this to excuse the fact that he took no action, and plans to take no action, against a country that is working toward killing active duty American troops abroad, and very likely already has.  That same country also happens to have actively worked to elect him in 2016, while the "president's" campaign welcomed that help.

The "president" not taking action on Russia's killing of US Troops is only the most egregious example of his taking Russia friendly policy positions over the last three and a half years, while never criticizing, not once, the nation or its leader for scheming to subvert our elections, surely because he is hoping to receive that type of aid again in 2020.

But lets all talk about fucking CHOP.


There is no action to take yet

I'll repeat something you apparently didn't read in the section you quoted:

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically

He is not saying that the intelligence isn't strong enough to act on or that the timing would be bad for some reason.  He saying the whole thing is made up. 

He is not saying the allegations are serious and will be forcefully responded to if they turn out to be true.  He cares only how this effects him politically, while carefully avoiding criticizing Putin.

You continue to straight make shit up to excuse and normalize the actions or non-actions of a "president" who has long ago conclusively proved that he is dangerous, and at the very least unqualified and incompetent when not actively working against American interests.
Or maybe just saying, we are investigating/take very seriously/repercussions if true. You know, like a normal US president at least partially focused on the best thing for his people instead of his reelection would.
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« Reply #40945 on: July 01, 2020, 03:16:24 PM »

He is not saying the allegations are serious and will be forcefully responded to if they turn out to be true.  He cares only how this effects him politically, while carefully avoiding criticizing Putin.




Administrations do not respond to hypotheticals
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« Reply #40946 on: July 01, 2020, 03:19:36 PM »

Today the "president" repeated the false claim that the Russia Bounty intelligence is a "hoax" made up to hurt him politically despite the fact that outside of himself, members of Congress and our NATO allies have all been briefed, and not one of them has said the intelligence is made up. 

Our "president" is doing this to excuse the fact that he took no action, and plans to take no action, against a country that is working toward killing active duty American troops abroad, and very likely already has.  That same country also happens to have actively worked to elect him in 2016, while the "president's" campaign welcomed that help.

The "president" not taking action on Russia's killing of US Troops is only the most egregious example of his taking Russia friendly policy positions over the last three and a half years, while never criticizing, not once, the nation or its leader for scheming to subvert our elections, surely because he is hoping to receive that type of aid again in 2020.

But lets all talk about fucking CHOP.


There is no action to take yet

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« Reply #40947 on: July 01, 2020, 03:21:53 PM »

The problem is what i have bolded in your quote.  NYPD police should be made up of individuals from the community.  Not from people who have to commute in from other municipalities and have no stake in the community they are policing. 


heh

Good luck with that

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« Reply #40948 on: July 01, 2020, 03:22:17 PM »

He is not saying the allegations are serious and will be forcefully responded to if they turn out to be true.  He cares only how this effects him politically, while carefully avoiding criticizing Putin.




Administrations do not respond to hypotheticals

Lol.  Congress and NATO allies have been briefed. Specific intelligence pointed to in the press.  I think maybe the problem here is that you don’t know the definition of “hypothetical.”

You know something Administrations don’t do?  They don’t treat a country that might be killing US Troops as an ally.

But we know Trump is no President, so his “administration “ is no Administration.
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« Reply #40949 on: July 01, 2020, 03:25:12 PM »

How did I get this virus?  I was so careful


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/health/peyton-chesser-coronavirus-texas/index.html



Probably from her roommate.

Or,  as the article reported,  her going back to the gym.   Gyms are an ideal spreading environment, with people grunting and sweating and forcefully breathing out.
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