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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[luee]

New petition wants to replace statue of Columbus in Cleveland's Little Italy with Chef Boyardee.

Washington with John Perdue? Jefferson with Jackie Robinson?

[barton]

Omaha had a statue of Boyardee,  outside a Con Agra plant.  DK if it's still there.   Anyone who's eaten Beefaroni may wonder why it hasn't been tossed in the river.

[Echo4]

Could Trump follow LBJ and drop out?

Fantasy land.

"Without self-aggrandizement"

Trump can't go to pee without self-aggrandizement.

I can only see Trump dropping out if he can feign an excuse - illness seems like the best bet, though he would have a hard time admitting he was ill given he's the healthiest president ever! But he could pretend he's sick, which would allow his ego to feel he was pulling one over on us, perhaps.

I would be very surprised if he dropped out. OTOH, if he follows through on his notion of cancelling the Jacksonville portion of the RNC's convention, who knows what they will do in the NC branch of it?!

[Echo4]

Speaking of how great America is now, anyone catch that taxpayer funded White Nationalist rally last night?

It held Kid in rapt attention.

The new National Garden of Heroes, which will have statues of Trump, Andrew Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Roy Cohn, is particularly fascinating to him.

[bankshot1]

Omaha had a statue of Boyardee,  outside a Con Agra plant.  DK if it's still there.   Anyone who's eaten Beefaroni may wonder why it hasn't been tossed in the river.

I remember the Chef Boyardee commercials WBW for Beefaroni and the way we customized them.

Beefaroni's really neat
Beefaroni smells like feet
Beefaroni tases like sheet

Hurray for Beefaroni!

[Echo4]

While people didn't bomb Pearl Harbour.

Neither did anyone we put in a concentration camp you blithering upside.down racist idiot.

Some of their ilk were spies for Japan, in Hawaii and elsewhere.
Only way to protect America was to put all in camps.

Bullshit and more bullshit. We did not lock up all people of German ancestry. We were far more selective with them, taking very few citizens. Ditto the Italian population.

If the goal was do as you say, then shouldn't they have "put all in camps?!"

That's true. To a point. If they'd locked up all those of German and Italian ancestry at the time, there'd have been no one to go fight the war.

They could have done the same thing that they did with the Japanese-Americans and formed units of just those folks.

The bigger problem is that we had 5,000,000 of German parentage and nowhere to lock them up, plus there would have been nobody to make, sell, and buy things.

[REDSTATEWARD]

A Rasmussen poll.



Blacks and other minority voters are far more supportive than whites of changing Mount Rushmore and removing the names and statues of early presidents who were slave owners. But most voters in all three groups oppose such actions, with sizable majorities who agree that it’s better to try to learn from the wrongs of the past.

Twenty percent (20%) of voters under 40 say it is better to erase the wrongs of the past. Roughly five percent (5%) of their elders agree.
Twenty-eight percent (28%) of Democrats want to close or change Mount Rushmore, a view shared by just nine percent (9%) of Republicans and 12% of voters not affiliated with either major party. Democrats by a similar margin are more enthusiastic about removing the names and statues of the early presidents who were slave owners.

Democrats (77%) are only slightly less likely than Republicans (89%) and unaffiliated voters (87%), though, to agree that it is better to try to learn from the wrongs of the past rather than erase them.
Seventy-three percent (73%) of all voters agreed with President Trump last July 4 when he said in a speech that “together we are part of one of the greatest stories ever told – the story of America. It is the epic tale of a great nation whose people have risked everything for what they know is right.” Twelve percent (12%) disagreed.
As recently as last November, 73% of American Adults said all Americans should be proud of this country’s history. Just 14% said Americans should be ashamed.

[oilcan]

And maybe the national garden needs some left-wing fascists,  like FDR?   

And  Eisenhower, well known LW fascist who hatched crazy conspiracy theories about the "military industrial complex" and such.   

[Echo4]

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/education-news/2020/06/30/377091/texas-teachers-consider-leaving-the-classroom-because-of-covid

[bankshot1]

And maybe the national garden needs some left-wing fascists,  like FDR?   

And  Eisenhower, well known LW fascist who hatched crazy conspiracy theories about the "military industrial complex" and such.

I just posted a lengthy OP/thread starter elsewhere

and nominated

Groucho Marx
Muhhamad Ali
Eleanor Roosevelt
Humphrey Bogart
Billl Russell
Red Auerbach


https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/whos-in-your-national-garden-of-american-heroes.30776/

[barton]

For Ward,  a handy review of the real concerns of black voters,  by Juan Williams, a month back....

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/sunday/biden-black-vote-trump.html

[Echo4]

https://t.co/oGR1nqhqIn?fbclid=IwAR2oGW9_YqjU8brPAOore3RXqkk6fC7gfaXc9PywR2OT4T8KLFQROoRiPys

Descendants of Frederick Douglass present his "What To The Slave Is The Fourth Of July?" on NPR

[barton]

President Trump’s unyielding push to preserve Confederate symbols and the legacy of white domination, crystallized by his harsh denunciation of the racial justice movement Friday night at Mount Rushmore, has unnerved Republicans who have long enabled him but now fear losing power and forever associating their party with his racial animus.

Although amplifying racism and stoking culture wars have been mainstays of Trump’s public identity for decades, they have been particularly pronounced this summer as the president has reacted to the national reckoning over systemic discrimination by seeking to weaponize the anger and resentment of some white Americans for his own political gain....   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-racism-white-nationalism-republicans/2020/07/04/2b0aebe6-bbaf-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

Rushmore is made out of granite but the GOP seems now more composed of something easily eroded...chalk maybe.   

[Echo4]

President Trump’s unyielding push to preserve Confederate symbols and the legacy of white domination, crystallized by his harsh denunciation of the racial justice movement Friday night at Mount Rushmore, has unnerved Republicans who have long enabled him but now fear losing power and forever associating their party with his racial animus.

Although amplifying racism and stoking culture wars have been mainstays of Trump’s public identity for decades, they have been particularly pronounced this summer as the president has reacted to the national reckoning over systemic discrimination by seeking to weaponize the anger and resentment of some white Americans for his own political gain....   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-racism-white-nationalism-republicans/2020/07/04/2b0aebe6-bbaf-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

Rushmore is made out of granite but the GOP seems now more composed of something easily eroded...chalk maybe.

Not chalk, but something flakier than that. Mica, maybe.

And... it's fear more than anger, I think, with the anger 'just' a reaction to that fear.

[Echo4]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/politics/what-matters-july-1/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3d3kxCeT9YZA0WR2EuLvn7W5A9sA35WjFtGWd-MVYJRPbtuY1jzddeP0A

The schools situation is a complete crisis. And completely unfixable