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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41580 on: July 06, 2020, 05:05:28 PM »

The overwhelming number of Americans who peacefully protested The George Floyd murder was impressive and meaningful.
Then the anarchy began with looting and rioting and taking over parts of cities and the absurd push to eliminate police departments.

The overwhelming number of Americans who are peacefully protesting for George Floyd (and others) continue to be impressive and meaningful, and an overwhelming number of Americans continue to support their cause.

What has changed is that Trump has watched his reelection chances go south in a hurry, so he has chosen to define those overwhelmingly peaceful protests as Anarchy(!) in order to rev up his overwhelmingly White base.  He is seeking to divide Americans because he thinks he has a better chance at winning election when his base is angry and afraid.

And so naturally, you and kiidcarter8 eat it up like its chocolate (vanilla?) cake.
I see you still are unable to define anarchy.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41581 on: July 06, 2020, 05:06:00 PM »

You have no idea what it’s like to live in occupied territory.


We got out

22 of us in all.

Safer places to live.

Cher Horowitz...
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« Reply #41582 on: July 06, 2020, 05:06:57 PM »

This past weekend the anarchists killed their own and several politicians got up enough nerve to fight back.

The anarchists killed their own?  That 8 year old girl was an anarchist?

Hadn't read that.  Surprising, but I've never known you to be wrong, so...
Ask her father.

I don't know her father.  I'm asking you.  What does an 8 year old girl have in common with Anarchists?
That was the question from her father to the anarchists.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41583 on: July 06, 2020, 05:07:29 PM »

The overwhelming number of Americans who peacefully protested The George Floyd murder was impressive and meaningful.
Then the anarchy began with looting and rioting and taking over parts of cities and the absurd push to eliminate police departments.

The overwhelming number of Americans who are peacefully protesting for George Floyd (and others) continue to be impressive and meaningful, and an overwhelming number of Americans continue to support their cause.

What has changed is that Trump has watched his reelection chances go south in a hurry, so he has chosen to define those overwhelmingly peaceful protests as Anarchy(!) in order to rev up his overwhelmingly White base.  He is seeking to divide Americans because he thinks he has a better chance at winning election when his base is angry and afraid.

And so naturally, you and kiidcarter8 eat it up like its chocolate (vanilla?) cake.
I see you still are unable to define anarchy.

I know what Anarchy is REDSTATEWARD.  I'm not the one here trying to paint the overwhelmingly peaceful and meaningful protesters as Anarchists.  You and Donald Trump are.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41584 on: July 06, 2020, 05:12:24 PM »

Anarchists   have been running amok egged on by tyrannical politicians coveting political power.

Do you mean the guy who ran over protesters in Seattle, or when shots were fired into a group of protesters in Louisville, killing one of them?    Yes, that kind of anarchy should not be tolerated.  And the politicians who are stoking race-based fear about the BLM protests in order to keep their political power should also face the consequences. 

Of course, that isn't what you meant.  But lets look at the facts for a second:

26 million Americans have taken part in the BLM protests.  That's almost 30 percent of the adult population.  If those protests in and of themselves could largely be described as "Anarchy!" and defined by the horrible and unacceptable killing of innocents, the country would be on fire.

But...the country isn't on fire.  The deaths you and kiidcarter8 have used to vilify BLM have been few and far between.  And you want to talk about monuments, hunks of iron and steel that can be rebuilt and replaced (by a population that is going to have an awful lot of people looking for work over the next few years.)

So who, exactly, is egging on fear of the protests for political power?  Why Trump, of course, whose speeches this weekend you and kiid now parrot, but which had no more connection to reality than the nonsense you regularly post here.

Well the anarchists overstayed and are now killing the innocent and the tyrannists are feeling the wrath of the public

Innocents have been killed on both sides.  Only one side is trying to define an entire civil rights movement by those deaths.  And that civil rights movement, far from overstaying its welcome, still enjoys a large majority of the support of Americans who according to polls support the protesters and the protester's larger goal of police reform.


What we really need is speeding  up the reopening of the economy and putting people back to work so they can go on with their lives. ( and pay their rent).

The economy did need a speedy recovery from its forced closure so that people could go back to work and pay their rent. You are right!

Now whose fault is it that this isn't happening, REDSTATEWARD?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41585 on: July 06, 2020, 05:16:25 PM »


All you mentioned are important factors in determining or concealing the real numbers.

Trump is doing none of that.

I am thoroughly unconvinced.

There is a reason that Worldometer's numbers of dead for the US are lower than the CDC's numbers.

We also know multiple states have stopped being as forthcoming with their number, following some of Trump's comments - all with GOP governors.

Trump may not be causing folks to mess with the numbers, but I see no reason to be sure of it.
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« Reply #41586 on: July 06, 2020, 05:17:25 PM »

  A backlog of eviction cases is beginning to move through the court system as millions of Americans who had counted on federal aid and eviction moratoriums to stay in their homes now fear being thrown out.

A crisis among renters is expected to deepen this month as the enhanced unemployment benefits that have kept many afloat run out at the end of the July, and the $1,200 per adult stimulus payment that had supported households earlier in the crisis becomes a distant memory.

Meanwhile, enforcement of federal moratoriums on some types of evictions is uneven, with experts warning that judges’ efforts to limit access to courtrooms or hold hearings online because of covid-19 could increasingly leave elderly or poor renters at a disadvantage.

Of the 110 million Americans living in rental households, 20 percent are at risk of eviction by Sept. 30, according to an analysis by the Covid-19 Eviction Defense Project, a Colorado-based community group. African American and Hispanic renters are expected to be hardest hit...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/06/eviction-moratoriums-starwood/?hpid

But, by all means, let's stay focused on bashing racism protestors, defending slave owner statues and monuments, and waging a hugely divisive culture war (largely directed at imaginary anarchist boogeymen)! 

Stopping a tidal wave of homelessness that will devastate millions?  I'm sorry, but those people are expendable and most of them don't look like me!  Loooserrrrs.
LOL!
Barton looses a “ tidal wave of squirrels”!
Anarchists   have been running amok egged on by tyrannical politicians coveting political power.
Well the anarchists overstayed and are now killing the innocent https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/06/watch-family-of-8-yr-old-shot-in-atlanta-youre-killing-your-own/
and the tyrannists are feeling the wrath of the public. What we really need is speeding  up the reopening of the economy and putting
people back to work so they can go on with their lives. ( and pay their rent).

Get back to work you lazy essential people. Won’t even have to build facilities or manufacture ZyklonB.

BTW. What does the matter of looming mass evictions have to do with Anarchists?
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41587 on: July 06, 2020, 05:18:29 PM »

Red prefers the anarchy of kill squads being unleashed at night with orders that lead them to shoot young nurses dead in their beds.

White American Anarchy inflicted on all comers.

Thank goodness Red is in a minority dwindling faster than his allotted time on earth.
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« Reply #41589 on: July 06, 2020, 05:22:55 PM »

And it is now dawning on many of the local leaders who overplayed lockdown rules that the lawlessness of the anarchists is a contributor to an uptick in Covid  cases.

By location, there is little to no correlation between the protests and the "uptick" (lol) in COVID cases.

There is a clear correlation between the States that reopened too soon and the "uptick" (again, lol) in COVID cases.

Ask Gov. Abbott about that.
You ask him. But I see why you’d rather not talk about it
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« Reply #41590 on: July 06, 2020, 05:25:53 PM »

The overwhelming number of Americans who peacefully protested The George Floyd murder was impressive and meaningful.
Then the anarchy began with looting and rioting and taking over parts of cities and the absurd push to eliminate police departments.

The overwhelming number of Americans who are peacefully protesting for George Floyd (and others) continue to be impressive and meaningful, and an overwhelming number of Americans continue to support their cause.

What has changed is that Trump has watched his reelection chances go south in a hurry, so he has chosen to define those overwhelmingly peaceful protests as Anarchy(!) in order to rev up his overwhelmingly White base.  He is seeking to divide Americans because he thinks he has a better chance at winning election when his base is angry and afraid.

And so naturally, you and kiidcarter8 eat it up like its chocolate (vanilla?) cake.
I see you still are unable to define anarchy.

I know what Anarchy is REDSTATEWARD.  I'm not the one here trying to paint the overwhelmingly peaceful and meaningful protesters as Anarchists.
  Nor do I
   
« Last Edit: July 06, 2020, 05:28:14 PM by REDSTATEWARD »
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« Reply #41591 on: July 06, 2020, 05:28:17 PM »

And it is now dawning on many of the local leaders who overplayed lockdown rules that the lawlessness of the anarchists is a contributor to an uptick in Covid  cases.

By location, there is little to no correlation between the protests and the "uptick" (lol) in COVID cases.

There is a clear correlation between the States that reopened too soon and the "uptick" (again, lol) in COVID cases.

Ask Gov. Abbott about that.
You ask him. But I see why you’d rather not talk about it

You sad, sad bullshitter. You come up with the flimsiest crap to back the worst causes. It’s a good thing you are odious and repulsive. If you had any influence, you’d be quite dangerous to peace and stability, like the public figures you support.

Release day has been moved up...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/06/mary-trump-book-release-date-early-donald-trump
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #41592 on: July 06, 2020, 05:36:43 PM »

And it is now dawning on many of the local leaders who overplayed lockdown rules that the lawlessness of the anarchists is a contributor to an uptick in Covid  cases.

By location, there is little to no correlation between the protests and the "uptick" (lol) in COVID cases.

There is a clear correlation between the States that reopened too soon and the "uptick" (again, lol) in COVID cases.

Ask Gov. Abbott about that.
You ask him. But I see why you’d rather not talk about it

What is it you think I don't want to talk about? 

Meanwhile I asked you a direct question that you still haven't answered:

The economy did need a speedy recovery from its forced closure so that people could go back to work and pay their rent. You are right!

Now whose fault is it that this isn't happening, REDSTATEWARD?
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« Reply #41593 on: July 06, 2020, 05:43:58 PM »


And it is now dawning on many of the local leaders who overplayed lockdown rules that the lawlessness of the anarchists is a contributor to an uptick in Covid  cases.


By location, there is little to no correlation between the protests and the "uptick" (lol) in COVID cases.

There is a clear correlation between the States that reopened too soon and the "uptick" (again, lol) in COVID cases.

Ask Gov. Abbott about that.
You ask him. But I see why you’d rather not talk about it


What is it you think I don't want to talk about? 

Meanwhile I asked you a direct question that you still haven't answered:


The economy did need a speedy recovery from its forced closure so that people could go back to work and pay their rent. You are right!

Now whose fault is it that this isn't happening, REDSTATEWARD?
The politicians who closed the economy.
Many of them are tyrants.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2020, 05:50:48 PM by REDSTATEWARD »
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« Reply #41594 on: July 06, 2020, 05:58:21 PM »

The politicians who resisted closing the economy and then rushed reopening are with very few exceptions scoundrels and incompetents.
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