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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

On housing.

http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/935dy5/homeless-people-are-moving-into-vacant-homes-in-philly-and-fixing-them-up

Keep marching.

[REDSTATEWARD]

http://www.vox.com/2020/7/9/21316912/joe-biden-housing-plan-section-8

One of the best approaches to a lot of poverty problems.   Bang-for-buck,  this is a good fix and removes a repeating cycle of crisis from people's lives.   

Except for the details.
This plan was hatched during Obama. It's called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing and an actual HUD regulation. ( but never enforced)
What Biden won’t tell us is how he will.
By cutting off critical Federal funds for towns  unless they submit to federal control of urban planning. Next will be the abolishment of zoning for single family houses because, well, they are RACIST!
Which results in tons of federally subsidized apartments in the suburbs.

[Hamilton Samuels]

All?

All?

That's convenient to believe, but ignores a multitude of other factors.

Even so, the change is about CONVINCING THE MAJORITY to change, and telling them to pony up SOLELY based on race is a non-starter for about 75% of the population you wish to sway.

You fund whatever initiatives you finally decide on to address racism and racial inequities through a wealth tax that is based on a numeric calculation of net wealth and or real property and or corporate earnings, and is thus race blind in terms of ponying up.

You are harvesting funds from all those who fairly have the good fortune to qualify to provide for the needs of a smaller subset with a particular need just as we do for veteran’s benefits, social security, and fossil fuel subsidies or flood insurance.

I'm okay with addressing racial inequities. But how do we define them? Who defines them?  When you start ticking off "numeric calculations of net worth and real property", now you are talking wealth redistribution on a very large scale, it seems.

So tell me how you would calculate that. Because I can tell you right now the IRS doesn't do that fairly or equitably. $100000 in Kansas aint the same as $100000 in NY or NJ, but it gets taxed the same by Uncle Sam.

[facilitatorn]

Liz Warren has some good ideas about reforming the tax system. Joe Biden is taking some of those ideas up.

Keep marching.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/07/10/hate-groups-cashed-in-on-pandemic-relief-before-millions-of-americans-protested-for-social-change/

[facilitatorn]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/seattle-city-council-pledges-cut-police-budget-half-1026989/

CHOPPED in half.

Keep marching.

[bodiddley]

Because I can tell you right now the IRS doesn't do that fairly or equitably. $100000 in Kansas aint the same as $100000 in NY or NJ, but it gets taxed the same by Uncle Sam.

Which is why salaries are significantly higher in NY.

And if we're talking about people with $100M or more, I don't think to matters where they live.  Take $10M from them and they are still very well-off and essentially won't notice the haircut.   Use that money to better the lives of poor people and improve society in general.

[Echo4]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/health/football-decline-kids-head-injuries-wellness/index.html

Many fewer ER visits because kids stopped playing football.

[LarryBnDC]

http://www.vox.com/2020/7/9/21316912/joe-biden-housing-plan-section-8

One of the best approaches to a lot of poverty problems.   Bang-for-buck,  this is a good fix and removes a repeating cycle of crisis from people's lives.   

Except for the details.
This plan was hatched during Obama. It's called Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing and an actual HUD regulation. ( but never enforced)
What Biden won’t tell us is how he will.
By cutting off critical Federal funds for towns  unless they submit to federal control of urban planning. Next will be the abolishment of zoning for single family houses because, well, they are RACIST!
Which results in tons of federally subsidized apartments in the suburbs.

Oh do shut up.

[barton]

http://www.vox.com/2020/7/9/21316912/joe-biden-housing-plan-section-8

One of the best approaches to a lot of poverty problems.   Bang-for-buck,  this is a good fix and removes a repeating cycle of crisis from people's lives.   

Except for the details. ...[blah blah blah]

Which results in tons of federally subsidized apartments in the suburbs.

People who aren't like you,  roaming your hood!   You must be shitting your Ben Hogan's.
My advice:  if they turn up on the links,  bury yourself in a sand trap and call 911.

Seriously, try to form a coherent argument against mixed-income neighborhoods.   Bo  at least gave some concrete examples of problems with federal vouchers.   But hey,  baby steps.   Get people out of sleeping in cars and in stable surroundings first...

[LarryBnDC]

“What a revoltin' development this is!"


https://medium.com/@indica/the-plague-states-of-america-53b20678a80e

[oilcan]

And Donny's a little unhinged today at his Doral meeting....

“The patriots here today fled socialism to find freedom,” Trump said. “And now Joe Biden and the radical left are trying to impose the same system.”

The president continued, “Joe Biden is a puppet of Bernie Sanders, AOC, the militant left, the people that want to rip down statues and monuments to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin.”

Trump then repeated his bizarre claim that Democrats are pushing for the removal of statues of Jesus Christ. “Jesus! Okay, Jesus. They want to rip down statues to Jesus,” Trump said, before confidently predicting Biden would lose the election....   

The orderlies need to make sure the patient actually swallows the pills.   

And for the record...Biden has said he prefers for Confederate statues and monuments to be taken down through legislative action rather than being torn down by protesters, and he has not expressed support for taking down statues of American leaders like Washington and Jefferson.

[oilcan]

“What a revoltin' development this is!"

William Bendix (life of Riley)  ----> Daffy Duck.   

[bambu.]

“What a revoltin' development this is!"


https://medium.com/@indica/the-plague-states-of-america-53b20678a80e

Why would Americans want to travel anywhere atm.
Anyway, with the low wages being paid it's a wonder Americans have any spare cash to go anywhere.

[facilitatorn]

Trump built the wall. It keeps us in. This was easy to predict and sad to watch come to pass.