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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43335 on: July 17, 2020, 03:16:05 PM »

How do we know that the alleged Rasmussen Presidential Approval Numbers are a complete joke?
This much movement in a two day period is indicative of a deep problem with your methodology.

p.s. Notice how Kid is not crowing about the upward trend here. Notice how I am not claiming this is a downward trend. GIGO. Rasmussen is not a poll. It is a crap shoot on any given day whether things will be better or worse, with some narrow parameters established to avoid even grosser distortions.

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DATE   Approval Index      STRONGLY APPROVE   STRONGLY DISAPPROVE   TOTAL APPROVE   TOTAL DISAPPROVE
17-Jul-20   -12            35%            47%               45%         53%
16-Jul-20   -8            36%            44%               47%         51%
15-Jul-20   -4            37%            41%               48%         50%
14-Jul-20   -7            36%            43%               47%         51%
13-Jul-20   -11            34%            45%               45%         54%
   

   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43336 on: July 17, 2020, 03:19:43 PM »

Also, even at -8, it's still a serious outlier. Taking it out, the average is -15.4, and that's including the Hill/HarrisX number, which has been a consistent GOP-leaning outlier throughout this campaign, as well. While one is at it, toss the Quinnipiac -24 outlier, too.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43337 on: July 17, 2020, 03:24:26 PM »

Achtung, bitches!


Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

The tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland city streets, as federal officials and President Donald Trump have said they plan to “quell” nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.





https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

If you still support this Administration you too are a fucking Nazi.


CLEAN UP THE SEWER!

"No matter what laws you have to break to do it!" say Trump and Kid.

From what I understand warning went out to clear the area.  When it was not clear, everyone who had been warned but did not heed became fair game to be taken in

If you have info on improper detainment beyond this, let us know
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« Reply #43338 on: July 17, 2020, 03:28:47 PM »

Achtung, bitches!


Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

The tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland city streets, as federal officials and President Donald Trump have said they plan to “quell” nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.





https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

If you still support this Administration you too are a fucking Nazi.


CLEAN UP THE SEWER!

"No matter what laws you have to break to do it!" say Trump and Kid.

From what I understand warning went out to clear the area.  When it was not clear, everyone who had been warned but did not heed became fair game to be taken in

If you have info on improper detainment beyond this, let us know

They are federal officers in without request or permission who do not have the authority to declare an area needs to be clear. Nor was there need to clear the area. It was power for the sake of power, not crime, that prompted the arrests, which were largely random.

It is ALL improper detainment.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43339 on: July 17, 2020, 03:29:31 PM »

Remember, this is all because we have the best testing in the world! Without those folks having been tested, they would be alive now!

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/texas-orders-extra-body-bags-mortuary-trucks-as-it-braces-for-more-coronavirus-deaths/2161262/
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« Reply #43340 on: July 17, 2020, 03:39:34 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/politics/vance-trump-taxes-grand-jury/index.html

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The US Supreme Court granted the Manhattan district attorney's request to immediately issue its judgment in the case over President Donald Trump's tax returns, paving the way for new challenges to a grand jury subpoena to be handled by a lower court judge.

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/taxes-new-york-trump/index.html

Judge gives Trump until July 27 to add new challenges to subpoena in taxes case

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Trump's lawyers said in a court filing that they might challenge it on grounds raised in a concurring opinion written by Justice Brett Kavanaugh, which included whether the subpoena is too broad, issued in bad faith and would impede the President's ability to carry out his job.

The district attorney's office is investigating whether Trump or the Trump Organization violated any state laws, including in its handling of hush money payments made to two women who alleged affairs with the President. Trump has denied the affairs. As part of the investigation, the district attorney issued a grand jury subpoena to Trump's accounting firm Mazars USA seeking eight years of the President's personal and business records. Mazars has not objected to the subpoena.

Marrero noted that he had already decided some of those matters, including that the district attorney did not act in bad faith when issuing the subpoena. But the judge is allowing Trump's lawyers to file an amended complaint to lay out any new arguments.

William Consovoy, an attorney for Trump, said they had not yet decided which of the areas they might challenge in an amended lawsuit. He appeared to emphasize that they might litigate to try to narrow the subpoena.

Consovoy asked how the district attorney's subpoena, which is a copy of subpoenas issued by House investigators that sought records relating to many properties including international businesses and the Trump hotel in Washington, DC, "could be properly tailored for New York County."

Carey Dunne from the district attorney's office told the court that Trump had no new arguments and his motive was to continue to delay the investigation.

"There is indeed nothing new here. I heard not a single recitation of a single new fact that has not been raised previously before this court and other courts," Dunne said. "What the President's lawyers are seeking here is delay. I think that's the strategy here. Every day that goes by the president wins the temporary immunity he is seeking here."
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43341 on: July 17, 2020, 03:50:51 PM »

Remember, this is all because we have the best testing in the world! Without those folks having been tested, they would be alive now!

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/texas-orders-extra-body-bags-mortuary-trucks-as-it-braces-for-more-coronavirus-deaths/2161262/

What is the rate of new deaths to new positives for the state?  Sounds like we could have a NY "we need 10000 ventilators" situation.
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« Reply #43342 on: July 17, 2020, 04:21:47 PM »

Remember, this is all because we have the best testing in the world! Without those folks having been tested, they would be alive now!

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/texas-orders-extra-body-bags-mortuary-trucks-as-it-braces-for-more-coronavirus-deaths/2161262/

What is the rate of new deaths to new positives for the state?  Sounds like we could have a NY "we need 10000 ventilators" situation.

You're using the wrong metric.

And they aren't ordering them because someday they might need them, asshole. They are using them NOW.
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« Reply #43343 on: July 17, 2020, 04:26:38 PM »

A room full of them.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/07/15/packed-meeting-utah/?fbclid=IwAR26CPNDaTcSBjqkCfBDuaQrkdcudzfpqZvLERETS6OipEdCQZIkf4mVEvM

Okay, so wearing masks is a violation of your right to spit on your neighbors. I get that, for all that it's stupid.

But insisting on sitting in places marked to be empty? There is no freedom that is involved. That's pure self-indulgence even beyond the mask cluelessness.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43344 on: July 17, 2020, 04:39:46 PM »

Blinded by the lightbulb
Wrapped up like a douche
In issues which are slight...


Apologies to Bruce Springsteen.

Howl!
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« Reply #43345 on: July 17, 2020, 04:44:47 PM »

Also I anticipate that a fair number on the Right will just stay home, too disgusted to vote Trump.  Which could be important for close Senate races.  I don't see this being talked about.  I see the counter-theory that some Trump supporters won't admit supporting him in public but will vote for him in private. But I imagine a fair chunk of GOP backers realize what a disaster Trump has been and will just sit out the election.



To what end?

You would need a much better candidate to pull that off

Because they cannot bring themselves to vote for Trump, but they would never vote for a Democrat.

"You would need"

Which you is that?

It’s how Trump won.

Folks didn’t want to vote for him but wouldn’t vote for HRC so they stayed home.
Of course Black voters took the blame.
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« Reply #43346 on: July 17, 2020, 04:47:05 PM »


“This lawsuit is on behalf of the Atlanta business owners and their hardworking employees who are struggling to survive during these difficult times,” Kemp said in a statement. “These men and women are doing their very best to put food on the table for their families while local elected officials shutter businesses and undermine economic growth.”



Asking shop customers to wear masks is not shuttering the shop,  you mindless partisan puppet.   Would you demand similar  "freedom " for barefoot hillbillies who traipse around in hookworm-infested barnyards?   (hookworms easily transmissible through bare soles)   No-shoes policies all to be revoked?

Bottoms was taking ATL back to Phase 1, where many stores could not be open

Pay better attention.

How dare the mayor of a town look out for the health and welfare of her constituents?
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« Reply #43347 on: July 17, 2020, 04:51:53 PM »

Achtung, bitches!


Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

The tactic appears to be another escalation in federal force deployed on Portland city streets, as federal officials and President Donald Trump have said they plan to “quell” nightly protests outside the federal courthouse and Multnomah County Justice Center that have lasted for more than six weeks.





https://www.opb.org/news/article/federal-law-enforcement-unmarked-vehicles-portland-protesters/

If you still support this Administration you too are a fucking Nazi.


CLEAN UP THE SEWER!

"No matter what laws you have to break to do it!" say Trump and Kid.

From what I understand warning went out to clear the area.  When it was not clear, everyone who had been warned but did not heed became fair game to be taken in

If you have info on improper detainment beyond this, let us know

I bet you know the lyrics to Die Fahne hoft aka Raise the Flag.
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« Reply #43349 on: July 17, 2020, 05:09:06 PM »

Interviewer: “Ms. Trump, do you know the difference between a garbanzo bean and a chick pea?”

Ivanka: “Yes, Daddy never had a garbanzo bean on his face.”
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