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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43785 on: July 21, 2020, 12:26:50 PM »

We dont disagree by much

Proper followup for the Surgeon General from Gayle King would have been to ask for a specific number (transmission rate)

Still - teachers with comorbidities will be at risk - and it is their personal choice whether to return.  Trump administration cannot be held accountable for this


https://www.politicususa.com/2020/07/21/surgeon-general-transmission-rates-must-be-lowered-before-schools-can-reopen.html

Given the twin threats of loss of job and loss of unemployment benefits, coupled with Trump's threats to open the schools, of course he can.

Add to that the administration's refusal to stand by the perfectly rational CDC guidelines and you have a president who could and should be held culpable.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43786 on: July 21, 2020, 12:27:22 PM »

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history


48% total approve vs 43% strong disapprove

Promising.

Bullshit lies from Rasmussen. Their changes lie outside reliability.

They recently had Biden up by double digits, like everyone else

And down and up and down.

Their changes lie outside reliability.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43787 on: July 21, 2020, 12:28:55 PM »

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About the briefings: President Trump announced he would soon resume regular public briefings after discontinuing them in April.

But no task force members are currently expected to join Trump at today's 5 p.m. ET news conference, a person familiar with the plan tells CNN, who cautioned that could change. Trump is expected to hold these briefings a few times a week but not on a daily basis like he was earlier in the pandemic.

In other words, as I feared, this is not a return to briefings, but to daily campaign rallies because he has lost the ability to go do large groups in person.

NOTHING about this is about the health of the country.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43788 on: July 21, 2020, 12:29:52 PM »

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history


48% total approve vs 43% strong disapprove

Promising.

Even if we were to accept Ras as an accurate barometer of political sentiment, and many do not, you're reporting apples and oranges, to spin a misleading narrative.


Strongly Approve-34%   

Strongly Disapprove -43%

Is at least apples to apples.

While you may find a smaller negative gap promising, the #s appear to bounce within a narrow MOE.

The only promise you accurately keep is your promise to consistently troll this board with inaccuracy, misleading info, obfuscation and BS.

kid-you fool no one

« Last Edit: July 21, 2020, 12:34:13 PM by bankshot1 »
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43789 on: July 21, 2020, 12:33:14 PM »

https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/?fbclid=IwAR0i6RGOzgJ0Fcjq_oupbCb62PjWDXTKnBILW8fCT8CidYUK83-6LbItEUs

Compare to Rasmussen's Made Up Reports:

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A total of 36% of Americans say they approve of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president and 60% say they disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job according to the latest survey from the American Research Group. In June, 38% approved and 58% disapproved.
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Among Republicans (26% of adults registered to vote in the survey and 24% of all adults in the survey), 79% approve of the way Trump is handling his job and 17% disapprove. Among Democrats (36% of adults registered to vote in the survey and 32% of all adults in the survey), 6% approve and 91% disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job. Among independents (38% of adults registered to vote in the survey and 34% of all adults in the survey), 34% approve and 61% disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job as president.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43790 on: July 21, 2020, 12:35:54 PM »

Given the twin threats of loss of job and loss of unemployment benefits, coupled with Trump's threats to open the schools, of course he can.


Trump cant open the schools

What his aim is right now is that schools are working toward a re-open
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43791 on: July 21, 2020, 12:39:08 PM »

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history


48% total approve vs 43% strong disapprove

Promising.

Even if we were to accept Ras as an accurate barometer of political sentiment, and many do not, you're reporting apples and oranges, to spin a misleading narrative.


Strongly Approve-34%   

Strongly Disapprove -43%

Is at least apples to apples.

While you may find a smaller negative gap promising, the #s appear to bounce within a narrow MOE.

The only promise you accurately keep is your promise to consistently troll this board with inaccuracy, misleading info, obfuscation and BS.

kid-you fool no one

I think the APPROVES will vote for Trump - and the strong disapproves for Biden

That leaves 5% up for grabs
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43792 on: July 21, 2020, 12:46:22 PM »

I think the APPROVES will vote for Trump - and the strong disapproves for Biden

That leaves 5% up for grabs

If the Rasmussen numbers were accurate, Trump's chances for reelection would indeed be looking pretty good.

They aren't, of course. Which is why you are seeing Trump change tactics re: COVID.  Among other indicators.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43793 on: July 21, 2020, 12:47:07 PM »

That Tigani went to prison for campaign finance violations related to Biden’s campaign, and that he cooperated with federal investigators, has been known for years. But the details of his attempted cooperation, including the fact that the FBI investigated the Biden campaign, have remained secret until now.




https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/21/christopher-tigani-joe-biden-fundraising-373724
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43794 on: July 21, 2020, 12:47:38 PM »

Woman sues city of Seattle over son's death near CHOP zone.

“If any foreign power recklessly chooses to interfere in our democracy, I will not hesitate to respond as president to impose substantial and lasting costs."

- Biden

Why haven’t we heard anything remotely like this from Trump?
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43795 on: July 21, 2020, 12:49:21 PM »

That Tigani went to prison for campaign finance violations related to Biden’s campaign, and that he cooperated with federal investigators, has been known for years. But the details of his attempted cooperation, including the fact that the FBI investigated the Biden campaign, have remained secret until now.




https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/21/christopher-tigani-joe-biden-fundraising-373724

Trump's former lawyer/fixer is currently in jail for committing campaign finance violations that were directed by Trump personally.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43796 on: July 21, 2020, 12:49:38 PM »

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history


48% total approve vs 43% strong disapprove

Promising.

Even if we were to accept Ras as an accurate barometer of political sentiment, and many do not, you're reporting apples and oranges, to spin a misleading narrative.


Strongly Approve-34%   

Strongly Disapprove -43%

Is at least apples to apples.

While you may find a smaller negative gap promising, the #s appear to bounce within a narrow MOE.

The only promise you accurately keep is your promise to consistently troll this board with inaccuracy, misleading info, obfuscation and BS.

kid-you fool no one

I think the APPROVES will vote for Trump - and the strong disapproves for Biden

That leaves 5% up for grabs

You can believe in whatever you want to beleive in, Trump's chances, the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy

i was commenting on the misleading #s and misleading impression you tried to create.
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kiidcarter8

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43797 on: July 21, 2020, 12:52:07 PM »

https://americanresearchgroup.com/economy/?fbclid=IwAR0i6RGOzgJ0Fcjq_oupbCb62PjWDXTKnBILW8fCT8CidYUK83-6LbItEUs

Compare to Rasmussen's Made Up Reports:

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A total of 36% of Americans say they approve of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president and 60% say they disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job according to the latest survey from the American Research Group. In June, 38% approved and 58% disapproved.
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Among Republicans (26% of adults registered to vote in the survey and 24% of all adults in the survey), 79% approve of the way Trump is handling his job and 17% disapprove. Among Democrats (36% of adults registered to vote in the survey and 32% of all adults in the survey), 6% approve and 91% disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job. Among independents (38% of adults registered to vote in the survey and 34% of all adults in the survey), 34% approve and 61% disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job as president.


heh

So 3/4 polled were Dem or independent?

And Trump still got 36%?

I'l take it
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #43798 on: July 21, 2020, 12:52:56 PM »

Given the twin threats of loss of job and loss of unemployment benefits, coupled with Trump's threats to open the schools, of course he can.


Trump cant open the schools

What his aim is right now is that schools are working toward a re-open

Again, on this you take a total non-position on the subject after accusing me of hedging my bets on the argument.

There isn't a school district in the country right now that isn't "working toward a re-open."  Trump's position is that they re-open, that "science should not stand in the way" of having in-person schooling.
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"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."  -  The impeached "president" on Feb 27, 2020

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« Reply #43799 on: July 21, 2020, 12:54:03 PM »

That Tigani went to prison for campaign finance violations related to Biden’s campaign, and that he cooperated with federal investigators, has been known for years. But the details of his attempted cooperation, including the fact that the FBI investigated the Biden campaign, have remained secret until now.




https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/21/christopher-tigani-joe-biden-fundraising-373724

Trump's former lawyer/fixer is currently in jail for committing campaign finance violations that were directed by Trump personally.

Biden was investigated by.....let's see....... THE DELAWARE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

Can't make it up.
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