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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Hamilton Samuels]

As has already been shown by independent resources, the TIMES editorial board misrepresents in order to advance a particular liberal agenda and has been found on numerous occasions to actually be FACTUALLY INCORRECT ON ITS EDITORIAL pages.

WSJ: These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.

Same source says this: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias.  They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation


But they also said of the Times: The failed fact checks that occurred were on Op-Ed’s and not straight news reporting..

And of the WSJ, they reported: A factual search reveals that the Wall Street Journal has never failed a fact check regarding news reporting, however, IFCN fact checker Climate Feedback has found numerous inaccuracies in the WSJ editorial department.[/u]

And yet more liberals read the WSJ than conservatives.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/new-york-times-family-history-hypocriscy-deroy-murdock

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/07/24/how-the-us-chamber-of-commerce-wrecked-the-economy--and-made-the-pandemic-worse/

[bankshot1]

I think most people read the WSJ for its factual reporting on business and economics and not its political content nor its editorial stances. Most understand the business reporting and its editorial role are two separate and distinct funtions and hope that the editorial stances, which are clearly condervative, does not impact the journalistic integrity or accuracy of the news function.  I think its very broad readership among the political spectrum reflects that it presents a reliable news product which investors can rely upon to help make investment decisions.

I think most people read the NYT for its far broader scope. which most consider best of class journalism, focusing on national and international news, and also its coverage of the sciences, arts and culture which may hold national significance. Its editorial stance is liberal moderate yet it provides alternative voices in its Op-ed pages. I read the Op-ed pieces more oftern than the editorials. Very few read it for the sports section.

I read it for the Sunday comics section. 

[LarryBnDC]

So, for example, on that website, I found this: A 2014 Pew Research Survey found that 41% of the Wall Street Journal’s audience is consistently or mostly liberal, 24% Mixed and 35% consistently or mostly conservative. This indicates that they are slightly preferred by a more liberal audience.

Liberals love it!

And there was this:In review, the NYT utilizes emotionally loaded language in their headlines such as “Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Tactic” and “A Financier’s Profit-Minded Mission to Open a Channel Between Kushner and North Korea”, however, they use credible sources such as law.cornell.edu, Financial Times, and The Washington Post. Story selection is typically balanced, however, wording tends to lean left in most cases.


Like the old joke, "it's all in the delivery".


So, the WSJ gets rated as Right center bias and the NYT gets Left Center Bias, Which is like I said---the WSJ is no more nor less biased than its competitors----which is not the same as saying they are equally biased.

Both papers were judged to use "loaded words" to favor their causes.

So, pedantic one, I proved my original point, which you argued wasn't valid.

The question of whether or not it is smart to read biased material to know the other side of an argument is immaterial to the original discussion.. No, not immaterial at all. It's related to it, and it allows for further exploration of biased media to people whose minds are open.

Yours is not. This is why you don't wish to discuss it.

Because you think you're smarter than all the media, no matter the source.

And you've presented no facts here, but you have proved that you are indeed a real flaming asshole.

And the trouble with a real flaming asshole, such as yourself, is that no one can ever make a real flaming asshole feel like what he truly is.

Game. Set. Match.

Thanks for playing, loser.

The difference is the editorial page.

The Times is safely centrist with a sampling of opinion from slightly center left (45 yard line) to the right (30 yard line)

The WSJournal is right from the  35 yard line to the first row of the mezzanine.

These are approximates, of course and my opinion.

[LarryBnDC]

More analysis that the flaming asshole Needs will not be able to interpret properly:

In the Middle
Common Ground: Centrist News Sources
Wall Street Journal
Daily business-focused newspaper based out of New York City.
The Wall Street Journal has a bias rating of "Center" according to AllSides. The Pew Research Center found that the Wall Street Journal is read by people of all political leanings and is the only news source that is more trusted than distrusted by people all across the political spectrum. There is, however, some debate but it has been accused of being biased to both the left and the right.

BBC News
The British Broadcasting Corporation News division produces television, radio, and internet news. The BBC is a public service broadcaster established by a Royal Charter of the United Kingdom.
The BBC News has a bias rating of "Center" from AllSides. According to Pew, BBC is more trusted than distrusted among the different ideological groups except for consistently conservative individuals who view BBC as about equally trusted as distrusted.

USA Today
American daily newspaper that provides both news and entertainment coverage.
USA Today has a bias rating of "Center" from AllSides. According to the Pew survey, USA Today is more trusted than distrusted among the different ideological groups except for consistently conservatives who view USA Today as more distrusted than trusted.

Almost Center News Sources
The following news sources are rated as "Center" by AllSides and are noted for stating an independent and unbiased agenda, as well as consistently providing balanced coverage (giving time to both sides of an issue). However, they are listed here as almost center because of audience distrust from conservatives.

Respondents to the Pew survey who are consistently liberal, mostly liberal, and mixed views, rated these sources as more trusted than distrusted. Mostly conservatives rated them as about equally trusted as distrusted; Consistently conservatives rated them as more distrusted than trusted.

NPR
National Public Radio is a U.S. private and publicly funded non-profit organization that syndicates to a network of local stations.
PBS NewsHour
The Public Broadcasting Service is a non-commercial U.S. television broadcaster and distributor.
Sources on the Left and Right
A key finding from the Pew survey is that conservatives have a higher level of distrust overall of news sources and consume a much narrower range of news sources. Liberal audiences trust and consume a broader range of news sources.

Therefore, there are more news sources that are rated or perceived as center-left/slight left leaning (especially mainstream sources); there are fewer news sources that are center-right. This represents the popular conservative discourse that the mainstream media has a liberal bias (and potential hostile media effect).

Towards the Left
These news sources are rated as "Lean Left" by Allsides. According to the Pew survey, they are more distrusted than trusted by people who are mostly conservative and consistently conservative; and are more trusted than distrusted by people who are mixed, mostly liberal, and consistently liberal.

New York Times
American daily newspaper published since 1851.
Washington Post
American daily newspaper published out of Washington D.C. since 1877.

https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444

Damn, dude.

Get a job.

[LarryBnDC]

INteresting pie charts on this one: https://www.journalism.org/2020/03/04/about-one-fifth-of-democrats-and-republicans-get-political-news-in-a-kind-of-media-bubble/

So four out five get their news from outside the echo chamber.

Democrats get MSNBC, CNN and DemocracyNow while Republicans get FNC, OANN, Alex Jones and Q.

What the hell, they’re all the same, right?

Once again an approximation based on my opinion based on information  derived from your source..

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/new-york-times-family-history-hypocriscy-deroy-murdock

This is the United States of America...


“Behind every great fortune lies a great crime.” — Honore de Balzac

[LarryBnDC]

http://www.salon.com/2020/07/24/how-the-us-chamber-of-commerce-wrecked-the-economy--and-made-the-pandemic-worse/

Same guys who hired Evan Bayh after he and Joe Lieberman knifed the ACA in the Senate.
Same guys who gave lip service to ACA in 2010 while spending $3million A WEEK to support Tea Party types.

[REDSTATEWARD]

I think a reasonable observer might point out that it's difficult to quantify precisely how many terms of bias are used in a given edition of a paper,  or how much bias each term has.   Or whether the journalist puts the term in context -- say that an insurgent group calls its members "freedom fighters. "  Are you just quoting that,  or do other facts support that description?   Do ordinary citizens see the group's efforts as supporting greater freedom?   

Another example is calling a government a "regime."  As opposed to,  say,  "administration. "

Good points, and appreciated.

I think it is a lot easier to detect bias, or partisanship, in a newspapers editorials.

noun
a newspaper article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a topical issue.

[Hamilton Samuels]

So, for example, on that website, I found this: A 2014 Pew Research Survey found that 41% of the Wall Street Journal’s audience is consistently or mostly liberal, 24% Mixed and 35% consistently or mostly conservative. This indicates that they are slightly preferred by a more liberal audience.

Liberals love it!

And there was this:In review, the NYT utilizes emotionally loaded language in their headlines such as “Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Tactic” and “A Financier’s Profit-Minded Mission to Open a Channel Between Kushner and North Korea”, however, they use credible sources such as law.cornell.edu, Financial Times, and The Washington Post. Story selection is typically balanced, however, wording tends to lean left in most cases.


Like the old joke, "it's all in the delivery".


So, the WSJ gets rated as Right center bias and the NYT gets Left Center Bias, Which is like I said---the WSJ is no more nor less biased than its competitors----which is not the same as saying they are equally biased.

Both papers were judged to use "loaded words" to favor their causes.

So, pedantic one, I proved my original point, which you argued wasn't valid.

The question of whether or not it is smart to read biased material to know the other side of an argument is immaterial to the original discussion.. No, not immaterial at all. It's related to it, and it allows for further exploration of biased media to people whose minds are open.

Yours is not. This is why you don't wish to discuss it.

Because you think you're smarter than all the media, no matter the source.

And you've presented no facts here, but you have proved that you are indeed a real flaming asshole.

And the trouble with a real flaming asshole, such as yourself, is that no one can ever make a real flaming asshole feel like what he truly is.

Game. Set. Match.

Thanks for playing, loser.

The difference is the editorial page.

The Times is safely centrist with a sampling of opinion from slightly center left (45 yard line) to the right (30 yard line)

The WSJournal is right from the  35 yard line to the first row of the mezzanine.

These are approximates, of course and my opinion.

If both editorial pages play fast and loose with facts, as has been shown, they are similarly flawed.

[Hamilton Samuels]

More analysis that the flaming asshole Needs will not be able to interpret properly:

In the Middle
Common Ground: Centrist News Sources
Wall Street Journal
Daily business-focused newspaper based out of New York City.
The Wall Street Journal has a bias rating of "Center" according to AllSides. The Pew Research Center found that the Wall Street Journal is read by people of all political leanings and is the only news source that is more trusted than distrusted by people all across the political spectrum. There is, however, some debate but it has been accused of being biased to both the left and the right.

BBC News
The British Broadcasting Corporation News division produces television, radio, and internet news. The BBC is a public service broadcaster established by a Royal Charter of the United Kingdom.
The BBC News has a bias rating of "Center" from AllSides. According to Pew, BBC is more trusted than distrusted among the different ideological groups except for consistently conservative individuals who view BBC as about equally trusted as distrusted.

USA Today
American daily newspaper that provides both news and entertainment coverage.
USA Today has a bias rating of "Center" from AllSides. According to the Pew survey, USA Today is more trusted than distrusted among the different ideological groups except for consistently conservatives who view USA Today as more distrusted than trusted.

Almost Center News Sources
The following news sources are rated as "Center" by AllSides and are noted for stating an independent and unbiased agenda, as well as consistently providing balanced coverage (giving time to both sides of an issue). However, they are listed here as almost center because of audience distrust from conservatives.

Respondents to the Pew survey who are consistently liberal, mostly liberal, and mixed views, rated these sources as more trusted than distrusted. Mostly conservatives rated them as about equally trusted as distrusted; Consistently conservatives rated them as more distrusted than trusted.

NPR
National Public Radio is a U.S. private and publicly funded non-profit organization that syndicates to a network of local stations.
PBS NewsHour
The Public Broadcasting Service is a non-commercial U.S. television broadcaster and distributor.
Sources on the Left and Right
A key finding from the Pew survey is that conservatives have a higher level of distrust overall of news sources and consume a much narrower range of news sources. Liberal audiences trust and consume a broader range of news sources.

Therefore, there are more news sources that are rated or perceived as center-left/slight left leaning (especially mainstream sources); there are fewer news sources that are center-right. This represents the popular conservative discourse that the mainstream media has a liberal bias (and potential hostile media effect).

Towards the Left
These news sources are rated as "Lean Left" by Allsides. According to the Pew survey, they are more distrusted than trusted by people who are mostly conservative and consistently conservative; and are more trusted than distrusted by people who are mixed, mostly liberal, and consistently liberal.

New York Times
American daily newspaper published since 1851.
Washington Post
American daily newspaper published out of Washington D.C. since 1877.

https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444

Damn, dude.

Get a job.

Get some stamina.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Impeach Trump, again: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/trump-portland-troops-chicago-golf-britain-scandal.html

[facilitatorn]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/24/trump-security-state-war-on-terror-america

Keep marching.

[LarryBnDC]

More analysis that the flaming asshole Needs will not be able to interpret properly:

In the Middle
Common Ground: Centrist News Sources
Wall Street Journal
Daily business-focused newspaper based out of New York City.
The Wall Street Journal has a bias rating of "Center" according to AllSides. The Pew Research Center found that the Wall Street Journal is read by people of all political leanings and is the only news source that is more trusted than distrusted by people all across the political spectrum. There is, however, some debate but it has been accused of being biased to both the left and the right.

BBC News
The British Broadcasting Corporation News division produces television, radio, and internet news. The BBC is a public service broadcaster established by a Royal Charter of the United Kingdom.
The BBC News has a bias rating of "Center" from AllSides. According to Pew, BBC is more trusted than distrusted among the different ideological groups except for consistently conservative individuals who view BBC as about equally trusted as distrusted.

USA Today
American daily newspaper that provides both news and entertainment coverage.
USA Today has a bias rating of "Center" from AllSides. According to the Pew survey, USA Today is more trusted than distrusted among the different ideological groups except for consistently conservatives who view USA Today as more distrusted than trusted.

Almost Center News Sources
The following news sources are rated as "Center" by AllSides and are noted for stating an independent and unbiased agenda, as well as consistently providing balanced coverage (giving time to both sides of an issue). However, they are listed here as almost center because of audience distrust from conservatives.

Respondents to the Pew survey who are consistently liberal, mostly liberal, and mixed views, rated these sources as more trusted than distrusted. Mostly conservatives rated them as about equally trusted as distrusted; Consistently conservatives rated them as more distrusted than trusted.

NPR
National Public Radio is a U.S. private and publicly funded non-profit organization that syndicates to a network of local stations.
PBS NewsHour
The Public Broadcasting Service is a non-commercial U.S. television broadcaster and distributor.
Sources on the Left and Right
A key finding from the Pew survey is that conservatives have a higher level of distrust overall of news sources and consume a much narrower range of news sources. Liberal audiences trust and consume a broader range of news sources.

Therefore, there are more news sources that are rated or perceived as center-left/slight left leaning (especially mainstream sources); there are fewer news sources that are center-right. This represents the popular conservative discourse that the mainstream media has a liberal bias (and potential hostile media effect).

Towards the Left
These news sources are rated as "Lean Left" by Allsides. According to the Pew survey, they are more distrusted than trusted by people who are mostly conservative and consistently conservative; and are more trusted than distrusted by people who are mixed, mostly liberal, and consistently liberal.

New York Times
American daily newspaper published since 1851.
Washington Post
American daily newspaper published out of Washington D.C. since 1877.

https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4462444

Damn, dude.

Get a job.

Get some stamina.

Stamina?

This ain’t a contest, Slim. It’s a diversion.