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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bankshot1]

For the life of me I do not understand what political benefit Trump and his high-kommand see by sending kids to dens of sure infection and death, and inevitably closing schools before the elections, as covid teaches yet another deadly lesson to the hoplessly deplorable.



He's not

Its up to the governors

You didnt (dont) want a dictator, right?

Right?

Don Trump, capo di tutti idiots, is threatening states that don't fully reopen schools with getting cut-off from Federal aid for desperate revenue and tax-starved states.

You wanna da money, you deliver da kids to DeVos by late August. No kids, no money. Capiche?

He's a two-bit hoodlum wannbe dictator who threatens the well-being of children by his lack of coherent policies, ignorance, and inept governing abilities..

[bankshot1]

What did your research tell you, Red?

I'm still waiting on Red providing his research and sources for his claim of the Kentucky kid hitting the WaPo libel lottery for millions.

MILLIONS!


I suspect it could be a long wait. 

[Yankguy1]

For the life of me I do not understand what political benefit Trump and his high-kommand see by sending kids to dens of sure infection and death, and inevitably closing schools before the elections, as covid teaches yet another deadly lesson to the hoplessly deplorable.



He's not

Its up to the governors

You didnt (dont) want a dictator, right?

Right?

Don Trump, capo di tutti idiots, is threatening states that don't fully reopen schools with getting cut-off from Federal aid for desperate revenue and tax-starved states.

You wanna da money, you deliver da kids to DeVos by late August. No kids, no money. Capiche?

He's a two-bit hoodlum wannbe dictator who threatens the well-being of children by his lack of coherent policies, ignorance, and inept governing abilities..

"Do us a favor, open the schools."

[Kam]

The purpose of a newspaper is to inform, entertain, and influence.

Mostly, no.

The purpose is to make money.

To do that you must inform, entertain, and influence.
Duh!

Still not their purpose, Ward. Wrong, again.

Those are their techniques to accomplish their purpose.

Oh, So the  techniques of GM is to manufacture cars to make money?

They have to have a larger vision than cars.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/marketing-myopia.html#:~:text=SUBJECTS-,marketing%20myopia,rapid%20changes%20in%20their%20markets.

[Echo4]

I think it's good to ask yourself why you are giving money to Starbucks or Home Depot instead of a local merchant (if possible) or one more allied with your values.
On a national scale, why give our money to China or Saudi Arabia.

As for consumerism, a real problem is that kids are subjected to the marketing blizzard at a very young age, and it is very effective on them (to the annoyance of parents everywhere).  But when you grow up in such an environment, it becomes normalized and it can be hard to shake or look at critically.  One of the genius areas in America is marketing, making things sound impressive and desirable, and that you are worse off without whatever item they are touting.

One of my favorite examples, there's a German cereal called Chocolumpus with some generic cartoon animal on the packaging.  It looks like someone whipped that whole concept and ad campaign up in one afternoon on their own.   It's almost like admitting that's it's just cereal and not that important.  In the US, it's Count Chocula, or Frosted Flakes with Tony the Tiger, who has his own catchphrase and almost seems like an old friend by now.

Product marketing isn't about creating a product and then convincing people they need it.  It's about discovering an unmet need in the market and meeting that need.  In the cereal case there is as an actual market need for "convenient breakfast food kids can prepare" for themselves while mom and dad are off to work or sleeping late on saturday mornings.  So it makes sense from a marketing perspective to target certain of their products (typically the high sugar-sweetened cereals you describe) to children themselves.  There are some of the earliest advertisements a child will have targeted at them.  There's nothing inherently nefarious about the marketing of it, but this is where a society ideally would want some regulation to limit the sugar/corn-syrup content in all cereals.  This is an issue where a "free market" will damage the health of the society if un-checked by regulation.

Or, in a free society, parents will decide what sugar content of cereal is permissible by not buying the product or limiting the servings.

In a free society with an educated consumer and honest product information.

We largely do not have educated consumers and honest product information is a comparative novelty, to the extent that we have it.

And... advertising to children influences the decisions of parents often far more than parental wisdom would admit to. Or you.

[Echo4]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/25/politics/ted-yoho-resigns-christian-organization-aoc/index.html

"resigns"

Chris Ford, the deputy director for strategic communications and campaigns of Bread for the World, on Saturday evening confirmed Yoho's resignation to CNN. The Florida congressman resigned on Friday during a meeting with the organization board, according to a statement from Bread for the World.

"We believe that Rep. Ted Yoho's recent actions and words as reported in the media are not reflective of the ethical standards expected of members of our Board of Directors," the organization wrote in a statement.

"...read sought his resignation as an action that reaffirms our commitment to coming alongside women and people of color, nationally and globally, as they continue to lead us to a more racially inclusive and equitable world."

[REDSTATEWARD]

I think it's good to ask yourself why you are giving money to Starbucks or Home Depot instead of a local merchant (if possible) or one more allied with your values.
On a national scale, why give our money to China or Saudi Arabia.

As for consumerism, a real problem is that kids are subjected to the marketing blizzard at a very young age, and it is very effective on them (to the annoyance of parents everywhere).  But when you grow up in such an environment, it becomes normalized and it can be hard to shake or look at critically.  One of the genius areas in America is marketing, making things sound impressive and desirable, and that you are worse off without whatever item they are touting.

One of my favorite examples, there's a German cereal called Chocolumpus with some generic cartoon animal on the packaging.  It looks like someone whipped that whole concept and ad campaign up in one afternoon on their own.   It's almost like admitting that's it's just cereal and not that important.  In the US, it's Count Chocula, or Frosted Flakes with Tony the Tiger, who has his own catchphrase and almost seems like an old friend by now.

Product marketing isn't about creating a product and then convincing people they need it.  It's about discovering an unmet need in the market and meeting that need.  In the cereal case there is as an actual market need for "convenient breakfast food kids can prepare" for themselves while mom and dad are off to work or sleeping late on saturday mornings.  So it makes sense from a marketing perspective to target certain of their products (typically the high sugar-sweetened cereals you describe) to children themselves.  There are some of the earliest advertisements a child will have targeted at them.  There's nothing inherently nefarious about the marketing of it, but this is where a society ideally would want some regulation to limit the sugar/corn-syrup content in all cereals.  This is an issue where a "free market" will damage the health of the society if un-checked by regulation.

Or, in a free society, parents will decide what sugar content of cereal is permissible by not buying the product or limiting the servings.

In a free society with an educated consumer and honest product information.

Which the USA  has.

[kiidcarter8]

Heard at pr-protest meeting:

"OK., let's not shoot our own guys"

Oops.

Not Fucking Around - too funny

https://www.foxnews.com/us/louisville-protests-breonna-taylor-armed-protester-accidentally-shoots-himself

[Hamilton Samuels]

I think it's good to ask yourself why you are giving money to Starbucks or Home Depot instead of a local merchant (if possible) or one more allied with your values.
On a national scale, why give our money to China or Saudi Arabia.

As for consumerism, a real problem is that kids are subjected to the marketing blizzard at a very young age, and it is very effective on them (to the annoyance of parents everywhere).  But when you grow up in such an environment, it becomes normalized and it can be hard to shake or look at critically.  One of the genius areas in America is marketing, making things sound impressive and desirable, and that you are worse off without whatever item they are touting.

One of my favorite examples, there's a German cereal called Chocolumpus with some generic cartoon animal on the packaging.  It looks like someone whipped that whole concept and ad campaign up in one afternoon on their own.   It's almost like admitting that's it's just cereal and not that important.  In the US, it's Count Chocula, or Frosted Flakes with Tony the Tiger, who has his own catchphrase and almost seems like an old friend by now.

Product marketing isn't about creating a product and then convincing people they need it.  It's about discovering an unmet need in the market and meeting that need.  In the cereal case there is as an actual market need for "convenient breakfast food kids can prepare" for themselves while mom and dad are off to work or sleeping late on saturday mornings.  So it makes sense from a marketing perspective to target certain of their products (typically the high sugar-sweetened cereals you describe) to children themselves.  There are some of the earliest advertisements a child will have targeted at them.  There's nothing inherently nefarious about the marketing of it, but this is where a society ideally would want some regulation to limit the sugar/corn-syrup content in all cereals.  This is an issue where a "free market" will damage the health of the society if un-checked by regulation.

Or, in a free society, parents will decide what sugar content of cereal is permissible by not buying the product or limiting the servings.

In a free society with an educated consumer and honest product information.

Which the USA  has.

LOL!!!


https://www.businessinsider.com/false-advertising-scandals-2016-3

[Echo4]

I think it's good to ask yourself why you are giving money to Starbucks or Home Depot instead of a local merchant (if possible) or one more allied with your values.
On a national scale, why give our money to China or Saudi Arabia.

As for consumerism, a real problem is that kids are subjected to the marketing blizzard at a very young age, and it is very effective on them (to the annoyance of parents everywhere).  But when you grow up in such an environment, it becomes normalized and it can be hard to shake or look at critically.  One of the genius areas in America is marketing, making things sound impressive and desirable, and that you are worse off without whatever item they are touting.

One of my favorite examples, there's a German cereal called Chocolumpus with some generic cartoon animal on the packaging.  It looks like someone whipped that whole concept and ad campaign up in one afternoon on their own.   It's almost like admitting that's it's just cereal and not that important.  In the US, it's Count Chocula, or Frosted Flakes with Tony the Tiger, who has his own catchphrase and almost seems like an old friend by now.

Product marketing isn't about creating a product and then convincing people they need it.  It's about discovering an unmet need in the market and meeting that need.  In the cereal case there is as an actual market need for "convenient breakfast food kids can prepare" for themselves while mom and dad are off to work or sleeping late on saturday mornings.  So it makes sense from a marketing perspective to target certain of their products (typically the high sugar-sweetened cereals you describe) to children themselves.  There are some of the earliest advertisements a child will have targeted at them.  There's nothing inherently nefarious about the marketing of it, but this is where a society ideally would want some regulation to limit the sugar/corn-syrup content in all cereals.  This is an issue where a "free market" will damage the health of the society if un-checked by regulation.

Or, in a free society, parents will decide what sugar content of cereal is permissible by not buying the product or limiting the servings.

In a free society with an educated consumer and honest product information.

Which the USA  has.

Oh? Have evidence to support your conjecture that our consumers are educated?!

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scholar-communist-china-met-match-with-the-trump-admin-consulate-closure

Winning.

[Echo4]

I've noted that RCP plays games with their polling numbers and how.

But even so, this is a somewhat telling chart:

2020 vs. 2016         2020      2016      Spread
Top Battlegrounds      D +5.5   D +2.1   Biden +3.4
RCP National Avg      D +8.7   D +0.4   Biden +8.3
Favorability Rtg's      D +15.6   D +3.9   Biden +11.7

[kiidcarter8]

Wasted energy


https://www.foxnews.com/media/shutdowndc-chad-wolf-protests-home

[Echo4]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/poll-finds-just-13-of-voters-still-up-for-grabs-for-trump-biden-11595678400

Poll Finds Just 13% of Voters Still Up for Grabs for Trump, Biden
Half of voters in a recent WSJ/NBC News poll say there is no chance they will support President Trump, and 37% say they would never back Joe Biden

That is is as large as 13% is surprising and maybe unlikely. That it is as low as 50% is evidence against Ward's claim about educated consumers.

Currently, 17% of the persuadable voters say they prefer Mr. Trump, 14% say Mr. Biden and 53% say neither. They consider themselves slightly more Republican than Democratic or independent and would prefer a GOP-majority Congress to a Democratic-led one. But in 2016, 48% of them didn’t vote or voted third-party, which raises questions about how many will show up for either candidate.
...
There are more men than women in this group and it trends younger, with 42% between the ages of 18 and 34. In the poll, they identified themselves as politically moderate and gave Mr. Trump a mixed review on the issues, with the economy his greatest strength, as it is with all voters.
...
On the economy, 66% of this group approve of Mr. Trump’s performance, compared with 24% that disapprove. But 69% disapprove of his handling of the coronavirus, compared with 24% who approve. And on race relations, 75% disapprove of his efforts, compared with 20% who approve.

And the 22 year old Mr. Wind really sums up just why Sanders was never going to win the Democratic primary and shouldn't have.

He praised Mr. Trump’s meetings with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and said he “did some good for the economy.” He added: “Although he says things that seem very questionable, I think he keeps it very real.”

Mr. Wind, who said he was a supporter of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the 2016 and 2020 Democratic primaries, summed it up for a lot of the persuadable voters. “I’m just looking forward to the 2024 election at this point,” he said.

[Kam]

How to help re-elect Trump:

https://news.yahoo.com/gunshots-fired-rival-militias-face-173049099.html

Dumb.

Whiteys shooting organized Black protestors has been trump’s plan all along. It’s gotten him right to where he is today.

I love your quaint and decades outdated view of “the center” and the “silent majority”. It’s truly adorable.

WTF are you talking about, bigot?

"Calling people racist and bigot is ineffective, but I'm going to do it, anyway," says UNO.

Doesn't mean he's wrong about the first part.