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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Echo4]

HOW TO SURVIVE A PLAGUE

From the number of complaints I'm hearing of pandemic fatigue and the widespread resistance to simple precautionary measures such as wearing a mask at the grocery store, it’s clear to me that many people don’t fully appreciate what the gay community has been dealing with for the past 40 years and don’t understand how we survived the AIDS epidemic.

At the risk of over-sharing, here’s a snapshot of what it was like to have come of age in the midst of a sexually transmitted and deadly virus.

We learned how to protect ourselves and one another by practising safer sex. We started using condoms, for which gay men had previously had no use. And we did so not just for a few short months, but for DECADES.

Over the years I’ve had boyfriends and lovers and one-night-stands with men whose names I've long since forgotten, and I used condoms with all of them. I had casual sex with strangers in bathhouses and in the backrooms of leather bars and I used condoms. I had sex in parks and parked cars and I used condoms. I had sex when I was sober and I had sex when I was too drunk to stand up or even see straight, and nonetheless I somehow managed to use condoms. I had sex with men who warned me that they were HIV-positive and with men who assured me that they were HIV-negative, and in either case I used condoms. I worked on the assumption that anyone and everyone might be infected – myself included – and I used condoms.

I had sex with the same man hundreds of times over the course of a 20-year relationship and we used condoms every single time, except for a very brief attempt at monogamy after 15 long years of endlessly discussing trust and testing and accountability, after which we decided that it would be easier and less stressful not to talk about it anymore and to just go back to using the damn condoms.

Occasionally condoms broke or came off, or I slipped up and put myself at risk, after which I lived in a state of anxiety for up to six months waiting for reliable antibody test results. Then I renewed my promise to myself to be more careful, to do better.

We did this because we knew that unprotected sex could be fatal. We did this as we mourned and buried friends and co-workers and ex-lovers and attended more funerals than any young person should ever have to.

Whenever I needed a reminder of the importance of safer sex, all I had to do was look at the photograph that my older lover kept taped to his fridge, of a dozen of his closest friends at a birthday party in the early ‘80s. All of them so young, all of them so handsome. All of them dead by the time we met. An entire generation of vibrant, talented men cut down in their prime, caught off guard by an emerging disease, wiped out by an invisible enemy.

We suffered from survivor guilt, wondering how and why we survived when so many had perished. We experienced anticipatory grief, wondering which of us would be next. At times we were nearly paralyzed with fear. Still we soldiered on.

We transformed our fear and grief into action by volunteering and fundraising. For years on end, every social event and drag show and gay bingo night involved selling raffle tickets and passing a bucket to scrape together donations. We delivered meals to people too weak to cook for themselves and we visited the dying in hospices and palliative care wards and we stitched memorial quilts to commemorate those we’d lost. We organized an annual AIDS Walk to support people living with HIV and we marched in the annual Pride Parade to remind ourselves and the world that we were still here and that we deserved the same rights as everyone else.

We educated ourselves and the community. My colleagues and I attended national and international AIDS conferences and created educational materials and conducted sexual health workshops. I coordinated a small group of dedicated volunteers who distributed literally millions of free condoms wherever men met for sex. We were on a mission: every location and every interaction was another opportunity to promote HIV prevention.

We made weekly rounds of smoky bars with a skateboarding drag queen dressed as a nun and we sat in steamy bathhouses and talked to naked strangers about their sexual activities. Late at night after the bars closed we cruised public sex environments with a bagful of condoms and a fistful of referral cards. We educated closeted men cheating on their wives and girlfriends, referring them to anonymous HIV testing sites and confidential counseling services. We distributed condoms and clean needles to street kids and hustlers and transgender sex workers and injection drug users, and we collected untold thousands of used syringes for safe disposal. We spoke to students of all ages and to young offenders in juvenile detention and we sat in healing circles in maximum-security penitentiaries with convicted rapists and murderers and encouraged them to keep each other safe.

We trusted doctors and scientists, even as the findings and recommendations changed. For years we used condoms and lubricants containing Nonoxynol-9 because health authorities told us that it might help prevent the spread of HIV, and then we stopped using it when studies showed that it actually INCREASED the risk of infection. We didn’t freak out or give up or give in to conspiracy theories and stop trusting science; instead we adjusted our behaviour as new and sometimes contradictory data became available.

We told each other to stay safe, to stay strong. We put up posters encouraging everyone to "Be Here for the Cure." Those of us with HIV took highly toxic pharmaceuticals for years and willingly participated in clinical drug trials until more effective and less damaging antiretroviral therapies eventually transformed HIV into a manageable illness. Those of us who were as yet uninfected signed up for Phase III vaccine trials, allowing multinational pharmaceutical companies to inject us with experimental vaccine candidates, putting our bodies at risk for the greater good. We told each other to be patient, that an effective vaccine would be available within a few years, never imagining that decades later the world would still be waiting.

We did all of this with insufficient government funding, with insufficient media attention and with insufficient support from our families of origin, while politicians largely ignored our plight and religious leaders preached that we got what we deserved and hateful bigots picketed our funerals with signs saying “God Hates Fags” and most people were simply oblivious to what was happening because it wasn’t happening to them.

We didn’t whine about the inconvenience the virus was causing. We didn’t demand that the government tell us exactly how much longer the pandemic would last, or complain that we just wanted everything to go back to normal. Normal wasn't what we wanted; we wanted things to be BETTER. We took to the streets to demand civil rights and adequate research funding and more effective treatment options, not to demand that hairdressers and nail salons re-open.

I’m 53 years old and I have been successfully managing to avoid contracting and spreading a potentially deadly virus not just for the past few months, but for my entire adult life.

I first heard about AIDS when I was an adolescent, back when it was tentatively known as GRID: Gay-Related Immune Deficiency. I saw a small story in the local newspaper about gay men in San Francisco and New York dying from a mysterious new illness, and even though I had never been to San Francisco or New York and even though I was too young to have had sex and had no one to talk to about being gay, I thought to myself: I better pay attention to this. I better take this seriously. Or it might kill me.

I’ve done things in my life of which I’m not proud, but this is not one of them: I paid attention. I took it seriously. I didn’t let it kill me. Nor did I let it stop me from having an active and adventurous sex life, but I took precautions. I stayed safe, I stayed strong.

I lived to tell the tale.

So please: wear a mask in public, especially indoors. Avoid crowds and wash your hands frequently. Listen to public health officials. Trust the science and follow the recommendations, even as they might change.

This is the new normal; it might continue for years. Prepare yourself to be in this for the long-haul. Ignore the risks at your peril, or learn from the experience of the gay community in how to effectively respond to a pandemic with no end in sight: do your small part, protect yourself and take care of each other, work together for the common good. Stay safe. Stay strong.

Adapt and survive.

[Echo4]

The world has gone crazy the Cancel Culture is hard at work destroying lives...

A friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training, has been fired for one minor mistake. He slept with one of his patients.
And now he can no longer work in his profession. Such a waste of time, effort, training and money! Sadly he is still paying on his school loans.

This just goes to show one minor mishap can ruin your life.
Thoughts for him and his family right now in this time of sadness.

He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.

This has to be the funnies things you have ever posted, Ward!

Thank you for the joke. I wonder if the others got it.

[bambu.]

Australia is last on the list of OECD countries for manufacturing.
Right down the bottom, no one below it.

Former no1 radio host warned against sending 'all' manufacturing overseas, and warned against free-trade agreements …"free trade is never free".
Govts on both sides refused to listen...now look what's happened.

He said that "with our high wages and high energy costs, there must be tariffs on imports equal to the difference in labour and energy/costs of production."
Highest minimum wage in the world, reportedly. [also some of the highest taxes].
bambu-ilk agreed. No govts listened.

No govts listened...and negotiated a free trade agreement with China...CHAFTA.
Now China, armed with all the manufacturing, is kicking Australia around the back yard with great pleasure.
Oh the folly of free trade.
Australian govt is listening now...much too late.

[facilitatorn]

The world has gone crazy the Cancel Culture is hard at work destroying lives...

A friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training, has been fired for one minor mistake. He slept with one of his patients.
And now he can no longer work in his profession. Such a waste of time, effort, training and money! Sadly he is still paying on his school loans.

This just goes to show one minor mishap can ruin your life.
Thoughts for him and his family right now in this time of sadness.

He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.

If it's a joke [I never know on here sometimes]...LOL

If it's not a joke and he slept with one of his human customers...yes, impossible standards are demanded today, especially of men who are seduced.

If it's not a joke and he slept with one of his non-human patients...it was always going to end badly for him.

If anyone here knows first hand...

[Echo4]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/29/women-who-voted-trump-who-regret-decision

Listen to the women.

Keep marching.

Hilary Clinton was a divisive candidate.  Dems needed to at least add Bernie as her running mate to retain the Bernie vote.

Wasn't going to happen. Either his accepting the VP nod or that keeping the voters who already saw him as a sellout when he endorsed her.

[LarryBnDC]

I'm liking either Rice or Baldwin atm.  I think Kamala is great,  but doesn't need veep as a springboard to any future POTUS run.  If she wobbled in debates last year,  I don't think that's damaging,  the American attention span remains of a cozy length.   And I think a ticket that's not 100 % coastal has some merit.  Which puts Baldwin ahead of Rice,  in that respect.   As for melanin,  not sure it really matters.   I'd think LGBT people can make empathic leaps to what it's like to handle discrimination.  Especially if you're LGBT in Wisconsin.

Don’t forget who brought Joe to the dance,

[LarryBnDC]

I think Harris would be Biden's AG.

Given the new dimension Barr has brought to the AG role, maybe Tom Hagen can be Biden's consigliere.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/07/29/trump-admits-fox-news-is-not-even-watchable-they-totally-forgot-who-got-them-where-they-are/

[Echo4]

yes, impossible standards are demanded today, especially of men who are seduced.

Not impossible.

Maybe for you.

And yes, those poor, weak men who cannot keep it in their pants.

Your argument is that women are responsible for men's behavior, which is pretty ironic given how much men keep insisting that they should be responsible for determining what women are and are not allowed to do.

[bambu.]

ISIS brides to remain in Syrian prisons despite US government offer to help repatriate

Dozens of Australian wives and children of captured Islamic State fighters in Syrian prison camps will remain stranded for the foreseeable future.

Despite pressure from the US government for Australia to repatriate the “ISIS brides” and their children, current international conditions made their rescue almost impossible, said Foreign Minister Marise Payne.

The US has repeatedly pushed for Australia and other countries of origin, to take responsibility for bringing to justice their citizens who fought for Islamic State, and to take in their family members.

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As I remember it, there was a poll somewhere, and no 1 radio station family voted, majority saying..."we don't want them here, leave them over there".

[Echo4]

The world has gone crazy the Cancel Culture is hard at work destroying lives...

A friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training, has been fired for one minor mistake. He slept with one of his patients.
And now he can no longer work in his profession. Such a waste of time, effort, training and money! Sadly he is still paying on his school loans.

This just goes to show one minor mishap can ruin your life.
Thoughts for him and his family right now in this time of sadness.

He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.

This has to be the funnies things you have ever posted, Ward!

Thank you for the joke. I wonder if the others got it.

Evidently, everybody knew it was a joke except (a) Bambi who thought it might be, but whose misogyny still got the better of him, and (b) probably Ward.

If it was intentionally humor, I take back a ton of things I have said maligning him.

Not holding my breath.

[Echo4]

I'm liking either Rice or Baldwin atm.  I think Kamala is great,  but doesn't need veep as a springboard to any future POTUS run.  If she wobbled in debates last year,  I don't think that's damaging,  the American attention span remains of a cozy length.   And I think a ticket that's not 100 % coastal has some merit.  Which puts Baldwin ahead of Rice,  in that respect.   As for melanin,  not sure it really matters.   I'd think LGBT people can make empathic leaps to what it's like to handle discrimination.  Especially if you're LGBT in Wisconsin.

Don’t forget who brought Joe to the dance,

United States of Amnesia.

[LarryBnDC]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/29/women-who-voted-trump-who-regret-decision

Listen to the women.

Keep marching.

Hilary Clinton was a divisive candidate.  Dems needed to at least add Bernie as her running mate to retain the Bernie vote.

Wasn't going to happen. Either his accepting the VP nod or that keeping the voters who already saw him as a sellout when he endorsed her.

Bernie never connected with the Democratic base... his platform, yes. Him? No.

[LarryBnDC]

The world has gone crazy the Cancel Culture is hard at work destroying lives...

A friend of mine, after 7 yrs of medical school and training, has been fired for one minor mistake. He slept with one of his patients.
And now he can no longer work in his profession. Such a waste of time, effort, training and money! Sadly he is still paying on his school loans.

This just goes to show one minor mishap can ruin your life.
Thoughts for him and his family right now in this time of sadness.

He really is a great guy and a brilliant veterinarian.

This has to be the funnies things you have ever posted, Ward!

Thank you for the joke. I wonder if the others got it.

Evidently, everybody knew it was a joke except (a) Bambi who thought it might be, but whose misogyny still got the better of him, and (b) probably Ward.

If it was intentionally humor, I take back a ton of things I have said maligning him.

Not holding my breath.

Credit where it’s due...

[Echo4]

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1288509568578777088?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1-tmURPUiX5FQkgvOARQLcacVGMP7FujPf7vMHf7zTWurTZIQLwU0aaFw

Phenomenal. I could not have written a more effective ad for Joe Biden if I were trying to.

Donald J. Trump
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