You waste way too many words on dimwitted trolls, Josh. You will not "explain" anything to them.
The words do double duty, Can.
I use them as part of write ups for students to critique. I also write up the other sides of these arguments, but don't bother posting them here.
And I borrow some of the key phrases or arguments that Ward, Kid, and Bambi present, as well. The internet is a rich source of exposition, waiting to be mined. Mostly, though the arguments don't matter.
It's a case of mined over matter.