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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bambu.]

Russia?

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6180118581001

America's ‘big enemy’ China allegedly trying to ‘rig the 2020 election’

New intelligence has emerged which shows how China and Iran are “trying to rig the election” so as to guarantee a Joe Biden victory in November, according to Daily Telegraph columnist Miranda Devine.

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It is a poll from CNN, so consider the source 



Presumptive Democrat presidential nominee former Vice President Joe Biden’s lead has evaporated in the past two months, a new poll from CNN shows.

General Election: Trump vs. Biden   CBS News/YouGov   Biden 52, Trump 42   Biden +10
General Election: Trump vs. Biden   NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl   Biden 50, Trump 41   Biden +9

Washington Post-ABC News: Biden/Harris 53  Trump/Pence  41  Biden/Harris +12

CNN poll is perfectly fine, I'm sure (though how funny is it that the Trumpists here fall over themselves to post it when the Trump Campaign is suing them for the poll they released last month) but that same poll shows Trump with a 42% approval rating.  42% approval but 46% of the popular vote?  Its never happened.

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It is a poll from CNN, so consider the source 



Presumptive Democrat presidential nominee former Vice President Joe Biden’s lead has evaporated in the past two months, a new poll from CNN shows.

General Election: Trump vs. Biden   CBS News/YouGov   Biden 52, Trump 42   Biden +10
General Election: Trump vs. Biden   NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl   Biden 50, Trump 41   Biden +9

Washington Post-ABC News: Biden/Harris 53  Trump/Pence  41  Biden/Harris +12

CNN poll is perfectly fine, I'm sure (though how funny is it that the Trumpists here fall over themselves to post it when the Trump Campaign is suing them for the poll they released last month) but that same poll shows Trump with a 42% approval rating.  42% approval but 46% of the popular vote?  Its never happened.

Also has to be said I am skeptical of the CNN analysis of this result.  Trump has "shored up" his position with White Males since June?  Enough to turn a 14 point deficit into a 4 point deficit?  How?  What has happened in that intervening time?

Attitudes can turn, sure.  But in the absence of an actual event that would explain that level of shift, this reads to me like CNN post-justifying an outlier poll.

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Can't comment on all the BS and misinformation that was posted here in the last 16 hours but I do want to give a special shoutout to kiidcarter8 saying that Trump's voter suppression is justified because Trump's poor response to COVID has hurt him politically.

Truly all-star level Trumpist thinking there.

[kiidcarter8]

He - Needs - such a card.  (You should be dealt with)  COVID has hurt Trump in polling - as it would have for any sitting president.

You could call that CHINA getting involved in our elections for good Ol' Uncle Joe and his China-loving family.

[barton]

Therefore it can generate $ Billions in income . Ask your friendly Congressman why its dive into red ink has been allowed to continue.

In Feb 2020 the D-House passed a bill HR 2382 to rescind the 2006 Republican law forcing the USPS to prefund about $110 billion in retiree benefits.
.....
A bi-partisan vote to rescind the punitive 2006 Republican bill to gut the USPS and prepare it for eventual privatization.

The bi-partisan bill sits in the Senate awaiting Sen McConnell's swift action to end this unfair financial burden on the USPS.

Perhaps Red should check in with Mitch.

[barton]

We don't have basements...our homes usually start at ground level and go up.

https://thewest.com.au/lifestyle/new-homes/unearthing-the-truth-about-basements-c-147993

Bad things happen in basements.
They're where serial killers torture you to death and home invaders toss you down the stairs into.

Besides that, there are no windows...and in America those doors in the ground are easily opened and entered by the bad people.
Also, below ground water problems, cold, damp.
Storage?   live with less.

Rarely do I have the pleasure of reading a post that starts with Travis Bickle and closes with Marie Kondo. 

[barton]

Trump Chief-of-Staff Mark Meadows: Lack of Evidence of Mail-In Voting Fraud Is the ‘Definition of Fraud’


Mark Meadows' boss is the "definition of fraud."

It's fun using the logic structure of Meadow's statement with other dubious theories,  for example....   lack of evidence of secret extraterrestrial invasion conspiracy is the definition of secret extraterrestrial invasion conspiracy.

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He - Needs - such a card.  (You should be dealt with)  COVID has hurt Trump in polling - as it would have for any sitting president.

Any sitting "president" that completely bungled the response.

Trump experienced a significant polling bump when COVID first hit.  A half-way decent response that kept infections and deaths low (something any other sitting President would have been able to do) and COVID probably would have been a net positive for him politically.

As it is, he fucked up.  And no, he should now be able to use the fact that the pandemic is out of control here as a means to suppress the vote.

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No one will be safe in Biden's America

There will be 75 9/11's having taken place the 8 months before the election, but the Trumpists think Donald wins on keeping Americans safe.

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(You should be dealt with)

Notable how the racists on the board are also the ones who resort to threats.

[barton]

Personally I favor incorporating the sump pump into my basement torture routine in order to obtain a more authentic feel.

How would you use a sump pump -- no,  maybe I'd rather you don't explain that.   

Our basement was built of field stones in 1906, and the walls are 20 inches thick.   It is amazingly cool and amazingly permeable to water.   I think "dank" is the word I'm looking for.   

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You could call that CHINA getting involved in our elections for good Ol' Uncle Joe and his China-loving family.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/business/ivanka-trump-china-trademarks.html

Maybe China lost respect for Trump when he pleaded with them to help his political fortunes by gaming the Soy Bean market.  Or maybe China is legitimately concerned how the state of the World will affect the global economy if it is subjected to another four years of Trump.

In any case, while its unclear to me how China is "getting involved in our elections" (and don't trust Trump officials saying they are) if foreign adversaries think our elections are wide open for them to meddle in, whose fault is that kiidcarter8?

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On COVID "recovery:"

An intriguing new study from Germany offers a glimpse into how SARS-CoV-2 affects the heart. Researchers studied 100 individuals, with a median age of just 49, who had recovered from Covid-19. Most were asymptomatic or had mild symptoms.

An average of two months after they received the diagnosis, the researchers performed M.R.I. scans of their hearts and made some alarming discoveries: Nearly 80 percent had persistent abnormalities and 60 percent had evidence of myocarditis. The degree of myocarditis was not explained by the severity of the initial illness.

Though the study has some flaws, and the generalizability and significance of its findings not fully known, it makes clear that in young patients who had seemingly overcome SARS-CoV-2 it’s fairly common for the heart to be affected. We may be seeing only the beginning of the damage.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/opinion/covid-19-heart-disease.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

[bodiddley]

Wind turbines...baaah, if put anywhere near animals and humans.
Nearest whole percentage of energy generated from wind turbines globally?
Zero.

Wind power produced more than 5 percent of global electricity in 2018 with 591 GW of global capacity (568.4 GW is onshore).

So it's higher now and growing.

Extracting oil is an inherently messy polluting enterprise.  Also results in wars to control oil access and profits.  Transporting oil is an inherently dirty polluting undertaking.  Right now there an oil tanker off pristine Mauritius that ran ground on coral reefs, leaked hundreds of tins of crude, broke in half.  Pipelines leak all the time, etc.  If you add in the pollution and military costs and wars related to oil, the costs are actually massive.

The goal should be to use wind and solar and other renewables for close to 100% electricity generation.  While converting the automotive fleet to electric over time.  And increasing home heating to solar.  Reaching 100% isn't as important as increasing renewables.  And don't buy all the junk arguments and junk science Big Oil tosses out to obfuscate and keep their profit churn going for as many decades as possible to the detriment of humans and their planet.