Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Echo4]

Just shut up and calmly follow the instructions of the 17 year old with the gun and you will be just fine.



Ignoring him likely would have worked

Says Kid, who, had they ignored the teen and been shot by him, would have blamed them for doing just that.

[kiidcarter8]

https://news.yahoo.com/rioting-beginning-turn-people-off-100009152.html

[REDSTATEWARD]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


You think Trump saying "everyone just calllllm down now" - or quoting peaceful leaders of yesteryear, etc will have any effect?

How about Trump saying something that shows he gives a shit about the lives of people of color and how they are treated by our system of justice?   How about showing some tiny speck of support for millions of peaceful demonstrators on behalf of black lives?   How about not antagonizing people who are already upset and frightened by law enforcement with threats of paramilitary aggression?   How about acting for five milliseconds like he cares about anyone but himself,  his rich cronies,  and his future prospects of deification by white nationalist America and its various deplorables?   

Jesus fuck.   There's got to be one or two cells left in your brain that are capable of sensing that character matters,  and that all of us opposing Trump are seeing profound lapses of character in this so called president.    Do you not EVER fucking open your mind enough to make some attempt to find out what we're seeing that seems to elude you?   Holy fuck,  I've crapped out turds that are better people than you.

Heavy.
But.
A civil authority that ignores violence in cities is illegitimate..
As many have observed, those who don’t back law and order will lose support to those who do. Its a one issue campaign in that respect since unless we talk about law enforcement and order there is nothing left to talk about.
What amazes me the most about the criticism of Trump as a “fascist “ is this:
If liberals do not defend order, fascists will.

[bankshot1]

Yeah?  If the kid was planning on being fine with being ignored while “protecting businesses” then what was he doing with a gun?



He was answering the call to action by the Facebook post

And they rightfully figured some protesters were armed (as previously stated, Rittenhouse did not fire the first shot)

A call to action by Facebook is your rationale for armed white supremacists dishing out their brand of color-coded law and order.

Seig heil mothafucka.

I'm calling on all Elbanese to take to our wide avenues, broad boulevards, streets and paths and keep Elba safe from the forces of evil and the re-emergence of the terrors of Trish!

heh

[kiidcarter8]

A call to action by Facebook is your rationale for armed white supremacists dishing out their brand of color-coded law and order.


Rationale?

No

But that is why he was there

As for any dishing out, just the kid - amongst all that showed - fired his weapon.  I have heard no other account of even a confrontation.

As for color coded - you will have to explain that one.

[bankshot1]

Liberals do defend order.

And defend our constitution.

Red conflates protest which is lawful and rioting and looting which is not.

There's a difference,

But it seems seems Red, like our president, wants the order but wants to skip over the law.

Trump the fascist has unleashed attacks on lawful protestors and is seemingly encouraging civil unrest on both sides so that he may use force to show he is the Generalisimo. 

[bankshot1]

A call to action by Facebook is your rationale for armed white supremacists dishing out their brand of color-coded law and order.


Rationale?

No

But that is why he was there

As for any dishing out, just the kid - amongst all that showed - fired his weapon.  I have heard no other account of even a confrontation.

As for color coded - you will have to explain that one.

A call to action by Facebook is enough to mobilie American white supremacists to kill other americans-that seems like a rationale to me.

Kid-you are aware that certain non-Americans bad-actors have used Facebook for propaganda and lies to distort the truth, mislead and otherwise confuse americans? 
Is is it possible that these unamed non-americans might have misled Americans white supremicists to take up paint-guns against their fellow Americans?

the Forces of Trish are to be feared!

[Echo4]

Here's a call to action by Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/awulfing/posts/10223867678823456

I woke up Sunday morning, 7/26, to my boyfriend Max having a seizure on our living room couch. As I held him in my arms while he was violently seizing and bleeding from the mouth, I thought that this would be the worst moment of my life- little did I know that what ensued after I called 911 would be much more violent and traumatic.

I called 911 as soon as I could, talking initially to a woman while Max was seizing. She handed the phone off to a man who talked me through how to tip Max to his side to avoid choking and made me count Max’s breaths inward, as I was worried about his labored breathing. I felt Max’s cold, clammy hands and immediately knew he was hypoglycemic (had dangerously low blood sugar) that caused his seizure (he had never had a seizure before). I screamed this to the man on the phone, if not also to the woman dispatcher who first answered the call.

After around 5 excruciating minutes, Hennepin Healthcare EMS arrived. I let them in the door and explained the situation. I told them repeatedly that Max is a Type I diabetic and that is why I believe he seized. At this point, Max was in a post-seizure state: calm and catatonic. I told EMS that he needs sugar, that he has low blood, sugar, etc… they instead WAITED 7 MINUTES BEFORE ADMINISTERING GLUCAGON. 7 MINUTES. Glucagon was administered AFTER Max “came to” from the seizure and was in an unconscious diabetic state that he does not remember- he was observably terrified, whispering “help me, help me,” disoriented, and became combative as EMS and 2 firemen forcibly held him down in an attempt to “relax” him.

I told an older male EMS worker that their behavior, how they were talking to him (loudly, angrily, commanding), and their physical restraint WASN’T HELPING and that he needed sugar. Instead of listening to me, he snapped at me to “go let the cops in the front door,” as he had just called the MPD for backup.

I waited outside until the police arrived. I initially let in around 5 police officers. Once we were back in the apartment, the police kept filing in. At one point, an EMS worker had to tell them to stop coming in, as our tiny, 525 square foot apartment was filled with uniforms. Uniforms that repeatedly asked me what drugs Max was on. Uniforms that said “I don’t want to search your apartment, I just need to know what he’s on.” Uniforms that kept me in the corner of the apartment to ask me question after question.

I then heard a male uniform tell the female uniform that was speaking with me that they had administered “3 ketamine,” a “V” word drug, and “8 ketamine.” We found out this morning that Max was given a 20mg of Versed and a total of 500mg of KETAMINE. This was the fatal dosage that police gave Elijah McClain in Aurora, Colorado in August 2019. 500mg of ketamine. ATTEMPTED MURDER.

Because of the ketamine, Max was on a ventilator in the ICU for a tortuous 2 days where we could not visit him, talk to him, or advocate for him. It was hell.

This happened because Max is a 6’ 5” Black man. My whiteness was not enough to save him from the Hennepin Healthcare EMS and MPD’s egregious racism and life-threatening decisions. I believe that police brutality and racism is more of a health risk to Max than his Type I diabetes. Dr. Thomas Wyatt, the Medical Director of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Hennepin Healthcare, called us today and AGREED that this would not have happened if Max was White.
Luckily, Max is back home with me. I want to first and foremost thank Barb for being an unstoppable force and an amazing mother, Steve, my amazing and loving family, and my friend Drew who kept me sane while Max was wrongfully put in the ICU due tp the racism of Hennepin Healthcare EMS and MPD that consequently led to the use of a potentially deadly dose of ketamine.

We won’t be quiet. Thank you for reading. Please share.

July 30th post

[LarryBnDC]

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?



Nope - not with any percentage of certainty

Which is why attacking a citizen while he is holding a firearm is stupid as hell.



Let me add - Rittenhouse going there was also stupid.  But lawful, from what we to this point know.

Not according to the charges

[facilitatorn]

Does anyone really believe if we re-elect Donald Trump there will be less violence in America.?

Joe Biden August 31, 2020 Campaign Speech

He really said that, unedited.
Really

His paid masses will continue to see that there is unrest.

This is what all the crackheads are saying.

[facilitatorn]

It was a since removed Facebook post that had armed men - and yes, it is legal to carry in Kenosha - to the city to help protect businesses after two nights of insanity.

Yeah, they were there to "protect businesses:"

Ryan Balch, a 31-year-old Wisconsin man who joined Kyle Rittenhouse and a contingent of militia conducting armed patrols in Kenosha, used his social media accounts to link to a Nazi propaganda video, amplified white nationalist Richard Spencer, and uploaded symbols associated with the so-called boogaloo movement, Hatewatch determined.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/08/30/wisconsin-man-who-says-he-marched-rittenhouse-kenosha-was-immersed-white-supremacist

Either you are in on it, or you are one gullible motherfucker.  As always the case with a Trumpist, a non-consequential distinction.

--

And btw, shooting looters is still murder even in places where it is "legal to carry."

You conveniently ignore the facts of what occurred with Rittenhouse

And now you say this 31-year old Nazi lover was out there for no good - while nothing bad happened.

Yes, some white supremacists answered the Facebook call.  Proves nothing, except they were up for unpaid public service.

kid-what kind of public service do you think is approproate for gun-carrying white supremacists. or members of American Nazis party?

Do you think they have the training, aptitude or all the other necessary skills to in fact to carry out anything remotely associated with public service?

They can clean superfund sites. Otherwise they are just horrible terrorists like Red wishes he had the balls to be.

[facilitatorn]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


You think Trump saying "everyone just calllllm down now" - or quoting peaceful leaders of yesteryear, etc will have any effect?

How about Trump saying something that shows he gives a shit about the lives of people of color and how they are treated by our system of justice?   How about showing some tiny speck of support for millions of peaceful demonstrators on behalf of black lives?   How about not antagonizing people who are already upset and frightened by law enforcement with threats of paramilitary aggression?   How about acting for five milliseconds like he cares about anyone but himself,  his rich cronies,  and his future prospects of deification by white nationalist America and its various deplorables?   

Jesus fuck.   There's got to be one or two cells left in your brain that are capable of sensing that character matters,  and that all of us opposing Trump are seeing profound lapses of character in this so called president.    Do you not EVER fucking open your mind enough to make some attempt to find out what we're seeing that seems to elude you?   Holy fuck,  I've crapped out turds that are better people than you.

Heavy.
But.
A civil authority that ignores violence in cities is illegitimate..
As many have observed, those who don’t back law and order will lose support to those who do. Its a one issue campaign in that respect since unless we talk about law enforcement and order there is nothing left to talk about.
What amazes me the most about the criticism of Trump as a “fascist “ is this:
If liberals do not defend order, fascists will.

Trump does not follow laws.

Trump cannot maintain order.

Sheriff Biden will clean up your town.

Unless you like it dirty and falling to pieces around you, you’ll vote for Biden to replace trump and the terrible shitshow of his misadministration.

[bodiddley]

Of course the violence will continue under Trump. The man has no interest in stopping it.


What do you call sending/offering federal officers?

Continuing the violence with their orders to crack heads and deploy tear gas and shoot rubber bullets, with police riots encouraged, pull people into unmarked vans, etc.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/31/1973787/--We-found-something-worth-fighting-for-NBA-breakout-star-uses-win-to-give-fans-resistance-pep-talk

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2020/08/31/donald-trumps-hunger-for-violence-isnt-just-about-politics--its-fuel-for-his-bloated-ego/