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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[facilitatorn]

Chris Wallace and Brett Baier are eating up trump flacks like they are tic-tacs. Their feckless floppy leader has left the poor flacks nowhere to go. They just run around in tight circles head butting themselves in the ass. It’s disturbing, but if they were more sturdy in the backbone they wouldn’t be trump flacks. It’s no wonder Kelly Anne quit when she did.

[facilitatorn]

THIS is what we are talking about wrt defunding police:

This shows very clearly that Red’s ruddy ejaculation about police reform and public tranquility has as much substance to it as his unhinged defense of monuments to undignified traitors like Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee.

[Hairy Lime]

So we have a cowardly hit job on two rookie cops(a man and a woman) in LA and outside the Hospital where the officers are being treated we have people chanting “ we hope they die”!

Just a few bad apples.

The LA Mayor, Eric Garzetti, called the shootings “ abhorrent”.  I’m sure he has “ thoughts and prayers “ as well  for the officers facing death. 

No, the avoidance of policy changes through crocodile tears is a tactic from your side. But it is nice you now recognize it for the cynical ploy it has always been.

But he’s also  the guy that is supporting cuts in The LA police budget 

So? Possible reallocation of resources to better serve public safety and welfare is his job. That issue is irrelevant to the assault on two cops by Booggaloo boys attempting to stir white over reaction.

Policing reform is impossible amid a war on police. ( Common Sense  rule  A1)

And that war may re-elect Trump.

Just a thought.

So, "War on Police" is the new talking point from the far right wing we'd sites you take your posts from? That explains the surge in the use of that term in the memes my right wing friends are posting.

There is no war on police. It has always been a dangerous job. One assault - carried out for reasons that you are speculating about based on no evidence, since we do not know who the perps are, let alone their motive - does not make for a "War" unless, of course, you are willing to call the extra judicial killing of George Floyd a War on Unarmed Black Men.

And even if there was a "War" nothing about that would make policing reform impossible. That is simply a way for people like you who see nothing wrong with police killing unarmed black men to try to sideline needed reforms.

[kiidcarter8]

Berkeley Heights NJ resident Jason Gelinas outed as running the main QAnon website. He doesn't want to talk about it and closed down all his related web ventures.

Maybe he'll get a job in the Trump Admin during the 2nd term after Citibank terminates him ...

Maybe..

[LarryBnDC]

So we have a cowardly hit job on two rookie cops(a man and a woman) in LA and outside the Hospital where the officers are being treated we have people chanting “ we hope they die”!

The LA Mayor, Eric Garzetti, called the shootings “ abhorrent”.  I’m sure he has “ thoughts and prayers “ as well  for the officers facing death. 

But he’s also  the guy that is supporting cuts in The LA police budget 

Policing reform is impossible amid a war on police. ( Common Sense  rule  A1)

And that war may re-elect Trump.

Just a thought.

Eat shit

[Kam]

They will search for two things:  a shred of good in the life of a white murderer and any shred of bad in the life of an unarmed black man.

You can set your watch to it.

https://twitter.com/YNB/status/1298821947065688066

[kiidcarter8]

THIS is what we are talking about wrt defunding police:

Excellent.

Of course there are dangers to this.  But I am sure they know.

[bodiddley]

China bashing is popular and Biden needs more Latino support.

So why doesn't Biden announce an initiative to have more manufacturing in Mexico and Central America and buy much less from China.  Whether just a policy goal, or backed with a willingness to lower tariffs on SA goods and keep the Trump tariffs on China.  Or whatever concrete steps trade or South/Central American experts can come up with.

Talk about reducing gang and drug violence in Mexico by providing more jobs there and expanding the middle class.  And combine that with a call to more manufacturing onshoring to the US.  US consumers and major companies have built up China by transferring roughly $300B a year for decades.  Why not shift that to Mexico, Central America, South America to help make them prosperous and reduce immigration to the US.

So you get China bashing, calls for more manufacturing jobs in the US, investing in stabilizing and wealth creation south of the US border, with a goal of reducing immigration due to poverty reduction.  Isn't that a lot of Wins?

[josh]

THIS is what we are talking about wrt defunding police:

Excellent.

Of course there are dangers to this.  But I am sure they know.

Because there are no risks to going the other way, Kid?!

More than 350 calls without once having to call for police backup.

How many such calls do you suppose there were prior to this program that the officers did not need to call for backup? How many in which people got arrested and/or injured?

[bodiddley]

Eugene OR has had a lot of success with a similar program for a long time now.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/13/media/donald-trump-rally-coronavirus-safety-reliable-sources/index.html

The folks covering Trump have no desire to go into these fertile breeding grounds for coronavirus. Nor do their bosses want them to.

Some end up doing it anyway.

Now the watch period commences, while we wait for the results of yet another "super spreader" event.

"Of course there are dangers to this.  But I am sure they know."

But unlike the folks working for Denver, Trump doesn't care.

[barton]

Anyone notice the latest news from Sweden on COVID ?


Sweden's infection rate, once the highest in Europe, is now lower than in UK, Spain, France, Italy or Denmark

Curve was flattened without a lockdown as government trusted Swedes to take necessary hygiene measures

Falling cases and deaths have led Britain to regard the country as safe and remove it from quarantine list

Swedish economy has seen a milder downturn than in much of Europe as shops and restaurants stayed open



And it doesn’t  mandate masks   

Imagine that

At last,  a post to which I can respond with authentic knowledge handed down through my family!   (I'm positively giddy)   My father,  a first generation child of Swedish parents,  was sent by his newspaper to Sweden to learn about their innovative approach to elder care and write a series of articles.   On that trip,  and others he took simply to visit,  and also from his parents,  aunts,  uncles, et al, he learned much about Swedish society.   One aspect,  of relevance to this topic,  is an overall approach to health that means hygiene and social distancing are somewhat "built in" to their society.   And it meant that assisted living for elders was already more prepared for safe bubbles,  where caregivers did not travel between facilities or have much outside contact.   

This means that Sweden is atypical,  that its particular social structure did allow a less mandated approach to the pandemic.   And,  like other Scandinavians (and,  say,  Canadians)  Swedes are more willing to follow social rules that foster community safety even without express legal pressure.   

America is quite different in this regard,  as everyone has surely noticed.   So the Swedish approach wouldn't yield the same results here.   

[barton]

THIS is what we are talking about wrt defunding police:

Infinitesimal odds that the MAGA zombies here will absorb any of that factual tidbit,  let alone respond to it.   Their comfort zone is concocting false interpretation of progressive policies in which there will be cities turned to lawless jungles roamed by bandits and packs of feral dogs.   

[kidcarter8]

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2020/voters_say_media_focuses_on_issues_with_biden_controversy_with_trump





Voters Say Media Focuses on Issues With Biden, Controversy With Trump
Monday, September 14, 2020

Voters think the media is a lot more interested in selling you Joe Biden’s positions than it is in letting you know where President Trump stands on the issues. Controversy’s the key when it comes to media coverage of Trump.

In covering Biden, 67% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the media is more interested in where he stands on the issues than in creating controversies about him. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that only 19% think the media is more interested in Biden controversies. Thirteen percent (13%) are undecided.



Mediavine
By contrast, only 41% think the media is more interested in where Trump stands on the issues. Forty-nine percent (49%) say they are more focused on creating controversies about him. Ten percent (10%) are not sure.







Even among Democrats, just 53% feel the media is more interested in where Trump stands on the issues, compared to 73% who feel that way about media coverage of Biden.




Most Republicans and voters not affiliated with either major party say the media is more interested in creating controversies when it comes to Trump but more interested in the issues when it comes to his Democrat rival.




When it comes to candidates in general, 66% of voters believe the media is more interested in creating controversies about them than in reporting where they stand on the issues. Just 27% think the issues are more important for the media.






The survey of 1,000 Likely U.S. Voters was conducted September 7-8, 2020 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

The latest results are no surprise given that voters still think most news reporters are biased and will continue to help Biden a lot more than Trump in their coverage of the presidential campaign.

Voters saw a similar pro-Democrat bias in the two previous presidential elections. In July 2016, 50% said most reporters would try to help Hillary Clinton versus 11% who would try to help Trump more. In the fall of 2012, 51% expected most reporters to try to help Barack Obama, while only nine percent (9%) thought they would be biased in favor of his GOP opponent Mitt Romney.

Voters in nearly every demographic category agree that the media is more interested in issues when it comes to Biden and controversy when it comes to Trump.

Seventy-nine percent (79%) of voters who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing say the media is more interested in creating controversies about him. When it comes to Biden, 65% of these voters say the media focus is on where he stands on the issues.

Among those who Strongly Disapprove of the president’s job performance, 61% think the media is most focused on the issues when dealing with Trump, while 78% say Biden’s media coverage is issue-focused.

With less than two months until Election Day, Biden holds a slight two-point lead over Trump in the latest Rasmussen Reports’ weekly White House Watch survey. But Trump voters appear to be hiding their vote again this election cycle.

Most voters say the upcoming presidential election is about Trump and rate Biden’s agenda of secondary importance.

Additional information from this survey and a full demographic breakdown are available to Platinum Members only.



The survey of 1,000 Likely U.S. Voters was conducted September 7-8, 2020 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

[josh]

The science-denier-in-chief strikes again:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/donald-trump-california-fires/index.html

Trump insisted as recently as August that he'd told California officials "to clean your floors; you've got to clean your forests," suggesting that leaves and broken trees were responsible for the fires.

"I spoke to the folks in Oregon, Washington they're really -- they've never had anything like this," Trump said in Nevada Saturday night. "But you know it is about forest management. Please remember the words — very simple — forest management. Please remember. It's about forest management. And other things, but forest management," a claim he repeated Sunday night at his first indoor rally in nearly three months.

Beyond the fact that scientists have rejected the notion that negligent forest management is the central cause of many of the recent fires, it's worth nothing that the federal government manages more than half of California's forestland.