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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[REDSTATEWARD]

Red and kiid are not huge 8th Amendment fans.

How did the Judge run afoul of the 8th Amendment?

LOL

OK
You don’t know

Thank God you do!!!

I never said I did, I just asked a question.

I never said the judge did anything that ran afoul of the 8th Amendment.  I just noted you and kiid.are not fans of the 8th Amendment. You sea lion.

You are breaking YankGuy’s heart

I don't think you thought that one through.

Well  I guess I assumed he had a heart.

[bodiddley]

Trump:

“Well, I hope there’s not a race problem,” Trump said

“There are people that don’t think masks are good,” Trump said

Trump said: “Yeah, well, I didn’t downplay it. I actually, in many ways, I up-played it, in terms of action.”

Up-played?
Try, played it up.
A moron on so many levels.

There are people who think the Earth is flat or the moon landings were fake.  Or demon sperm is something something.

[josh]

After declining for a month, the world's daily death rate (7 day rolling average) has gone up for two days running, back where it was 9 days ago.

The world's daily new case rate (7 day rolling average), after declining a small amount in the first three weeks of August, has climbed more than 10% in the next 3.5 weeks.

The US total cases is over 2% of the population. We've passed 200,000 deaths by most counts. We had a declining death rate, forseven weeks! The last two days have seen us climb 8%, pushing us above where we were a week ago.

On August 4th, we hit our highest point in average daily deaths (1.177) since May 24th, but fell from there, down to 750 on September 10th. It was our lowest since July 11th. Unfortunately, since August 4th, we have climbed more than 17%, back up to 881.

Perhaps this is just a blip on the radar and both tallies will resume their decline. For the last 100,000 deaths, we have averaged 863 per day.

But we're a hair above the IHME projection that has us with about 60,000 more deaths by Election Day, which is 7 weeks from now - average 1,200+ per day between now and then.

I sure hope they are wrong.

[bodiddley]

Took China 2 months to defeat the virus.

Hell, look at the charts, it really took one month of lockdowns (maybe 5 weeks) to stop transmission:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/

[facilitatorn]

So teach us, teach!

I thought Red claimed to be a dirt farmer, salt of the earth and all that.

[bambu.]

Took China 2 months to defeat the virus.

According to them.

Trouble is...America is a free country.
China is not.

China dragged people off the streets.
People in China weren't walking around with machine guns slung over their shoulders saying "NO" to lockdowns.

[josh]

Two studies.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e3.htm?s_cid=mm6937e3_w

(R)esearchers analyzed contact tracing data from 184 people with links to three child care facilities in Salt Lake County from April to July.

They found at least two children who had no symptoms not only caught the virus, but passed it to other people, including one mother who was hospitalized. One eight-month-old baby infected both parents.

"The infected children exposed at these three facilities had mild to no symptoms. Two of three asymptomatic children likely transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to their parents and possibly to their teachers," the researchers from the Salt Lake County Health Department wrote in their report.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937e4.htm?s_cid=mm6937e4_x

Children from ethnic and racial minorities, those with underlying health conditions and those between the ages of 18 and 20 are more likely to die, a CDC-led research team wrote in a study published Tuesday in the agency's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report*.

The report also showed just how unusual it is for children and young adults to die from coronavirus. Among the 190,000 deaths tallied in the country, only 0.08% -- or 121 -- were reported in those under 21. The most updated report from the CDC shows 377 children, teens and young adults aged up to 24 have died from coronavirus.

The researchers asked 50 states, New York City, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands to submit information on coronavirus deaths in those under 21, between February 12 and July 31. Forty-seven jurisdictions responded.

Among the approximately 6.5 million Covid-19 cases in the country, the researchers found a total of 391,814 cases of Covid-19 and MIS-C in those under 21. While people under 21 make up 26% of the US population, they make up only 8% of all reported cases.

Hispanics, Blacks and American Indian/Alaska Natives were disproportionately affected.  A total of 44% of the 121 who died were Hispanic children, 29% were Black children, 4% were American Indian/Alaska Natives and 4% were Asian or Pacific Islander. While these groups represent 41% of the US population under the age of 21, they accounted for approximately 75% of deaths in that age range. Fourteen percent of the deaths were in white children.

"Infants, children, adolescents, and young adults, particularly those from racial and ethnic minority groups at higher risk, those with underlying medical conditions, and their caregivers, need clear, consistent, and developmentally, linguistically, and culturally appropriate COVID-19 prevention messages," the researchers wrote.

While 25% of the deaths were in previously healthy children, 75% had at least one underlying health condition and 45% had two or more. The most frequently reported medical conditions were chronic lung disease, including asthma; obesity; neurologic and developmental conditions and cardiovascular conditions.

The breakdown among the different age groups varied substantially, with those in the younger age groups doing better than adolescents and young adults. Approximately 10% of the deaths were in infants under the age of 1, an additional 9% were in children between 1 and 4, with another 11% in the 5-9 range and 10% in the 10-13 range. But almost 20% of the deaths were seen in teenagers between the ages of 14 and 17 and more than 40% were in 18 to 20 year-olds.

* The CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report is suspect at this time, because the Undersecretary for Communication has been given access to edit it, "to bring it in line" with the message that President Trump is delivering.

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/09/15/census-data-pre-covid-2-3-million-lost-health-insurance-under-trump/5810404002/

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/15/daniel-prude-death-rochester-police-sought-delay-video-release-mayor-lovely-warren/5803252002/

Police lie. They prevaricate. They mislead. They delay.

Not one or two. Not one or two in some departments or in some states. All over the country and in far larger numbers than the so-called conservatives here wish to admit.

[josh]

Of the 25 hottest outbreaks in the U.S., communities heavy with college students represent 19 of them.

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/15/daniel-prude-death-rochester-police-sought-delay-video-release-mayor-lovely-warren/5803252002/

Police lie. They prevaricate. They mislead. They delay.

Not one or two. Not one or two in some departments or in some states. All over the country and in far larger numbers than the so-called conservatives here wish to admit.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/15/police-misconduct-among-leading-causes-false-convictions/5795715002/

Understated URL. Here's the key finding:
Actions by police officers, including witness tampering, violent interrogations and falsifying evidence, account for the majority of the misconduct that lead to wrongful convictions

Police lie. They cheat. They beat false confessions out of people.

[josh]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/09/11/youth-suicide-rate-increases-cdc-report-finds/3463549001/

Up 60% from 2007 to 2018.

[josh]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/09/palestinians-protest-arab-normalisation-deals-israel-200915192514017.html

[facilitatorn]

Trump is a very good liar because he’s too stupid to know how stupid he sounds to anyone who isn’t as stupid as he is.

— Mikel Jollett (@Mikel_Jollett) September 16, 2020

[facilitatorn]

http://www.alternet.org/2020/09/new-trump-revelations-have-made-the-destructive-consequences-of-his-malignant-narcissism-disturbingly-clear-psychiatrists/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

“It is who he is.”