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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

Wallace should have cut Trump's mike at some point, simply to enforce the debate rules.  Trump has no respect for the rules, and that would be the only way Bidens answers could be heard.   Next moderator should make that measure clear right at the outset:  if you will not show minimal courtesy, then I pull your plug.

And give Trump a gazillion votes.

Why?   If the rule applies to both parties,  what's the problem?   A debate is only legitimate if basic standards of discourse are enforced.   Trump has free will,  so what's to prevent him respecting his opponent,  following rules, and not getting cut off?   Same rules for Biden.   Sounds like you're saying Trump can't behave like an adult.

This is where you would ordinarily chide me for responding to Ward.

[REDSTATEWARD]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cruz-entire-reason-for-quick-confirmation-is-so-barrett-can-weigh-in-on-election-issues

Ted Cruz explains that Barrett's fast appointment is entirely to allow her to vote on election issues.

This is, somehow, news to Josh.

[josh]

Wallace should have cut Trump's mike at some point, simply to enforce the debate rules.  Trump has no respect for the rules, and that would be the only way Bidens answers could be heard.   Next moderator should make that measure clear right at the outset:  if you will not show minimal courtesy, then I pull your plug.

And give Trump a gazillion votes.

Why?   If the rule applies to both parties,  what's the problem?   A debate is only legitimate if basic standards of discourse are enforced.   Trump has free will,  so what's to prevent him respecting his opponent,  following rules, and not getting cut off?   Same rules for Biden.   Sounds like you're saying Trump can't behave like an adult.

To Trump the media is also the enemy. 
Where have you been the last four years?
If Biden wants to get his positions out he needs to get out of his basement and campaign. 
Trying to outshout Biden at a debate is not a strategy he can win.

I agree with Ward.

Trump's trying to outshout Biden at a debate is not a winning strategy.

[josh]

Biden campaign raised more money between 10 and 11 than any other hour in the campaign

[REDSTATEWARD]

Wallace should have cut Trump's mike at some point, simply to enforce the debate rules.  Trump has no respect for the rules, and that would be the only way Bidens answers could be heard.   Next moderator should make that measure clear right at the outset:  if you will not show minimal courtesy, then I pull your plug.

And give Trump a gazillion votes.

Why?   If the rule applies to both parties,  what's the problem?   A debate is only legitimate if basic standards of discourse are enforced.   Trump has free will,  so what's to prevent him respecting his opponent,  following rules, and not getting cut off?   Same rules for Biden.   Sounds like you're saying Trump can't behave like an adult.

To Trump the media is also the enemy. 
Where have you been the last four years?
If Biden wants to get his positions out he needs to get out of his basement and campaign. 
Trying to outshout Biden at a debate is not a strategy he can win.

I agree with Ward.
Biden trying to outshout Bidenat a debate is not a winning strategy.

fify

[bankshot1]

CNN- who won


Biden 60%
Trump 28%

presumably undecided 12%

Trump was so terrible and unhinged even Trump's core of his deplorables couldn't all bring themselves to lie to themselves.

Trump was a disaster tonight, that is, he was himself.

[josh]

Drain the swamp, drain the swamp!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/09/01/irs-chief-makes-more-than-100000-per-year-off-trump-property-documents-show

[josh]

Wallace should have cut Trump's mike at some point, simply to enforce the debate rules.  Trump has no respect for the rules, and that would be the only way Bidens answers could be heard.   Next moderator should make that measure clear right at the outset:  if you will not show minimal courtesy, then I pull your plug.

And give Trump a gazillion votes.

Why?   If the rule applies to both parties,  what's the problem?   A debate is only legitimate if basic standards of discourse are enforced.   Trump has free will,  so what's to prevent him respecting his opponent,  following rules, and not getting cut off?   Same rules for Biden.   Sounds like you're saying Trump can't behave like an adult.

To Trump the media is also the enemy. 
Where have you been the last four years?
If Biden wants to get his positions out he needs to get out of his basement and campaign. 
Trying to outshout Biden at a debate is not a strategy he can win.

I agree with Ward.
Biden trying to outshout Bidenat a debate is not a winning strategy.

fify

I was quoting you, Ward.

[LarryBnDC]

Wallace should have cut Trump's mike at some point, simply to enforce the debate rules.  Trump has no respect for the rules, and that would be the only way Bidens answers could be heard.   Next moderator should make that measure clear right at the outset:  if you will not show minimal courtesy, then I pull your plug.

And give Trump a gazillion votes.

Why?   If the rule applies to both parties,  what's the problem?   A debate is only legitimate if basic standards of discourse are enforced.   Trump has free will,  so what's to prevent him respecting his opponent,  following rules, and not getting cut off?   Same rules for Biden.   Sounds like you're saying Trump can't behave like an adult.

To Trump the media is also the enemy. 
Where have you been the last four years?
If Biden wants to get his positions out he needs to get out of his basement and campaign. 
Trying to outshout Trump at a debate is not a strategy he can win.

LOL!

[josh]

Hill responded to somebody's calling "Will you shut up, man?" the moment of the night and observing that she was sure that HRC wished she could have said that in 2016.

"You have no idea."

[LarryBnDC]

“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time” - Maya Angelou

Trump is a bully and wanna be tyrant.

“I alone can fix things.”

When are White folks gonna get real with this pathetic motherfucker?

[josh]

Instant analysis: Who won the debate?
YouGov figures on who won the debate: 48% for Biden, 41% for Trump, 10% for the tie.

69% were annoyed by the debate. Only 17% of viewers felt informed by the debate. That's amazing it's as high as that.

83% of views felt the debate was negative, 17% positive (what would it have taken for those 17% to decide it was negative? Constant physical violence?)

[luee]

---(CNN)Florida reported a spike in new coronavirus cases Tuesday, just days after Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order allowing restaurants and bars to operate at full capacity.

New cases surged to 3,266 from the 738 reported Monday, according to the state's health department. That's the highest one-day number since September 19.---


https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

Get him outta here before he kills everyone.

[josh]

Wasn't Brit Hume once a respected journalist? What happened to him?!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1311095099095494660

[josh]

Kabir Khanna of the CBS News Election and Survey Unit also points out that 42 percent of debate watchers said they thought worse of Trump afterward, and 24 percent said they thought better of him. In contrast, 32 percent said they thought worse of Biden, while 38 percent thought better of him.