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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53745 on: October 18, 2020, 04:21:05 AM »
Quote from: bodiddley on October 18, 2020, 04:02:47 AM
Inside the Fall of the CDC
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-fall-of-the-cdc

Good longish read.
They never make it clear why the CDC didn't just adopt the German/WHO test after the CDC test was compromised.  And if that was a CDC or Trump Admin decision.

They also don't discuss why the CDC remained the only testing lab in the country for a couple months until the Trump Admin finally let private labs do testing as well.
Again, blame apportionment to CDC or Trump Admin is not discussed.

FOIA fodder sometime soon after Jan 20, 2021, I hope.

But bet it is the Trumpian appointments at work.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53746 on: October 18, 2020, 04:33:13 AM »
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At one point, he described his joy in watching law enforcement authorities move in on crowds to prevent violence in Minneapolis after the protests against racial injustice.

"I don't know, there's something about that — when you watch everybody getting pushed around — there's something very beautiful about it. I don't care what I'm doing. Not politically correct ... But you people get it."

Yes, Trump is a fascist wanna-be strongman dictator.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
~Maya Angelou

And if not then, then the second... or by 5+ years of it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53747 on: October 18, 2020, 05:16:37 AM »
Quote from: bodiddley on October 18, 2020, 03:58:06 AM
You're probably right.

I moved away before Indians moved into my hometown. 

When I was there the next town over had a growing Indian section.

I did appreciate the good vegetarian food when I was there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEG1wuoa2hs
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53748 on: October 18, 2020, 05:18:02 AM »
Biden's a dick but he's my dick

waitaminute...
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53749 on: October 18, 2020, 06:48:27 AM »
As coronavirus surges across the US, only 2 states are trending in the right direction

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

Typhoid Donnie needs to keep it virtual. Those are 2 states he has not rallied in. No masks and packed like sardines coming to your neighborhood soon. If you support him get his disease.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53750 on: October 18, 2020, 09:18:30 AM »
Quote from: luee on October 18, 2020, 06:48:27 AM
As coronavirus surges across the US, only 2 states are trending in the right direction

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

Typhoid Donnie needs to keep it virtual. Those are 2 states he has not rallied in. No masks and packed like sardines coming to your neighborhood soon. If you support him get his disease.

I saw a small part of the rally in which he explained that he might have to leave the country and behind him was a sea of people... most of whom were wearing masks!
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53751 on: October 18, 2020, 09:39:07 AM »
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on October 17, 2020, 10:54:32 PM
Pennsylvania democrat Governor Tom Wolf to out-of-work Pennsylvanians,
DROP DEAD!

Might need some evidence to back up that spin,  scholar.   

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53752 on: October 18, 2020, 09:42:21 AM »
"12 more years" chant yesterday

2 great rallies.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53753 on: October 18, 2020, 09:50:07 AM »
Quote from: bodiddley on October 18, 2020, 04:02:47 AM
Inside the Fall of the CDC
https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-fall-of-the-cdc

Good longish read.
They never make it clear why the CDC didn't just adopt the German/WHO test after the CDC test was compromised.  And if that was a CDC or Trump Admin decision.

They also don't discuss why the CDC remained the only testing lab in the country for a couple months until the Trump Admin finally let private labs do testing as well.
Again, blame apportionment to CDC or Trump Admin is not discussed.

Thanks for the link

It's been reviewed a few time.  US always goes with their own testing.  The decision to not use the WHO test isn't really the issue

Blame?  No real need for that .  It was poor execution - and we moved on.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53754 on: October 18, 2020, 11:29:59 AM »
Quote from: kidcarter8 on October 18, 2020, 09:42:21 AM
"12 more years" chant yesterday

2 great rallies.

Only if he gets time off for good behavior.
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« Reply #53755 on: October 18, 2020, 11:51:44 AM »
Time was of the essence and they wasted 3-5 weeks getting the test working.
The German test that WHO adopted was simpler (2 genetic sites checked) and worked.

If you don't know who made the mistakes, why and how, then you don't learn how to prevent the same or similar mistakes in the future.  A lot of the mistakes were purely political interference in CDC/ public health matters.  But some of it, especially the failed test and contamination seems to have been CDC intransigence.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53756 on: October 18, 2020, 12:10:50 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/business/vaxart-sec-investigation/index.html

Vaxart has apparently been misrepresenting their role in Operation Warp Speed, prompting an SEC investigation.
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« Reply #53757 on: October 18, 2020, 12:28:06 PM »
This is about Sturgis,  and a motorcycle enthusiast who was actually able to learn something from his experience.   

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/17/sturgis-rally-spread/

As the story notes,  his case wasn't counted as Sturgis spread.   All evidence suggests it was.   

And here is a paywall free access to the same story....

https://www.universalpersonality.com/how-the-sturgis-motorcycle-rally-may-have-spread-coronavirus-across-the-upper-midwest/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #53758 on: October 18, 2020, 12:43:06 PM »
"Just having fun"

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/politics/gretchen-whitmer-lara-trump-cnntv/index.html

This is akin to the bullies' perpetual "I was just kidding, you can't take a joke" routine.
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« Reply #53759 on: October 18, 2020, 01:10:06 PM »
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