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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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« Reply #54375 on: October 24, 2020, 10:23:32 AM »

"The daily case count on Friday hit 77,289, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. That's the second-highest number of cases reported in a single day since the pandemic began. The highest day for new infections was on July 16 with 77,362 cases."



Much less testing back then of course.  Likely many more had this virus than was reported.

Likely many more have the virus now than reported, as well.

But given the trend in deaths has been up with the usual lag behind increases in cases, the suspicion is that you are full of crap in your attribution of causes.

Especially since the reports all over the midwest is of sharp increases in hospitalizations.

I wish you (and your Liar-in-Chief) would stop trying to minimize this life-altering disease and its impact on people.
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« Reply #54376 on: October 24, 2020, 10:25:02 AM »

Texas could be the linchpin to getting rid of the Electoral College:

https://theweek.com/speedreads/945527/how-texas-could-linchpin-finally-dismantling-electoral-college

That's been my thought since 2016.

But... given the direction things seem to be headed in, will the Dems want it to go away this time?

We got an overwhelming bi-partisan majority of the House to support getting rid of it in 1969, with both Nixon and Humphrey endorsing the measure. But the southern senators blocked it, fearing to lose power. (And given that it was Wallace that the move was in response to, just imaging their deeper motivation.)

But, if we were to get rid of the EC, we'd better offer something of substance to the paranoid middle of the country.
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« Reply #54377 on: October 24, 2020, 10:27:20 AM »

Thank god journalism is still alive.  Though not in the mainstream any more 


National Review:
Senator, last week at the hearing you mentioned that you thought it was “offensive and outdated” when Amy Barrett used the [term] “sexual preference.” It turns out that Joe Biden said it in May. Ruth Bader Ginsburg said it in 2017. Some of your colleagues on the Judiciary Committee said it maybe in 2010, 2012. Do you stand by that criticism?

Mazie Hirono: Well, of course.

NR: Do you think Joe Biden should apologize for saying that in May?

Hirono: Well, look, it’s a lesson learned for all of us. But when you’re going on the Supreme Court and you’ve been a judge, as one of my judge friends said, you should know what these words mean.

NR: Should Joe Biden apologize, too, like Amy Coney Barrett did?

Hirono: Joe Biden is not up for the Supreme Court.

NR: He’s up for the presidency. So, he shouldn’t apologize?

Hirono: People will decide.

NR: You don’t want to call on him to apologize?

Hirono: Oh, stop it. The world is in flames.


ROFL!

So... that's the big issue for you.

Got it.

Pathetic turd.
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« Reply #54378 on: October 24, 2020, 10:29:27 AM »

Bush might have initiated ending the Shuttle program, which was foolish, but the Shuttle program was terminated on Obama's watch, and Rockwell should have been saved. All of the money that went to Space X, and to Russia, etc, could have went to Rockwell and could have saved jobs in my hometown. And I know Boeing is to blame too. My hometown was a beautiful, proud area, now it is a ghetto with a high crime-rate. And it is happening all over America. Once proud areas are turning into ghettos. Once proud people are now unemployed and ashamed. It sucks. Americans love to work, and Americans love to do great things. And America has always been so proud of NASA and our space program, and putting men on the moon was awesome, and my hometown was so proud of the Shuttles. We need leaders who will bring back our pride. We want to do great things, and we want to be proud of our accomplishments. America is a land of achievers.

Salute,

Tony V.

And yet, you've personally achieved very little.

How sad that you've wasted so many opportunities.

Perhaps you should consider looking within, instead of looking to be led.

Sheep.
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« Reply #54379 on: October 24, 2020, 10:30:08 AM »

I blame the liberal elites who have an insatiable need for cheap nannies and recreational drugs. Homelessness and crime abound specially in the so-called sanctuary cities. Yeah, open the borders and make them all legal they shout. Uncle Joe should not go down that road. A disaster at this pandemic time with astronomical unemployment rates and missed rental payments.

What color is the sky in your world?
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« Reply #54380 on: October 24, 2020, 10:33:19 AM »

The US educational system needs to be improved, but a lot of the problem relates to the socio-cultural problems in society whereby it's very difficult to actually teach and maintain order in some schools.  While lots of children are not properly prepared for school and learning.  The downfall of stable two-parent families has a lot to do with this.  I really haven't kept up with educational challenges in the US much the past decade or two, but they used to say that free nursery school or kindergarten advances life-long learning significantly.

Sidenote:  I've always thought that the ascendancy of rap and lyric-based music meant that you could teach young people poetry and poetics, including fundamentals such as meter and rhyme and other techniques to express themselves in that genre -- alliteration, internal rhyme, rhyme schemes, synecdoche, metonymy, false rhymes, etc.

If you teach them the techniques of poetry and an understanding of poetics combined with writing their own lyrics/poetry, i think this could be popular and useful learning.

In what ways would that be useful? Popular perhaps, but useful?

Look, real education is about deciding what to teach. It's deciding what the learner truly wants to learn, and finding ways to assist the learner to define and then develop his/her/them's innate interests, talents, and natural tendencies.

So, for the students who are interested in developing their language skills, fine, teach "poetics". But for the students who would rather explore mathematics, or movement, or embrace music, we should provide the opportunities for them to develop that interest and explore their own possibilities, not the possibilities that you are attempting to define for them.

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« Reply #54381 on: October 24, 2020, 10:35:59 AM »

Gee, Kid hasn't come in to tell us the latest IBD/TIPP poll results! How surprising. (Not!)

https://www.investors.com/news/trump-vs-biden-poll-favors-democrat-after-debate-ibd-tipp-presidential-poll/

Biden's lead is 6.4% in the four-way, up from 2.3% last Tuesday or 4.6% yesterday.

Biden's lead is 5.6% in the two-way, up from 1.8% on Wednesday or 3.9% yesterday.

My favorite line from today's IBD/TIPP poll press release?
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The latest IBD/TIPP Trump vs. Biden poll finds former Vice President Joe Biden with a wider lead over President Donald Trump. The tracking poll, which includes five days of polling, includes only one day after the last debate, but the initial sign doesn't suggest a big change in the race, the IBD/TIPP presidential poll update shows.

One day of adding the post-debate results in bumpted the race by roughly 1.7% toward Biden, according to them. How big would it have to have been to be ajudged "a big change?!" This is a change from one day in 5 - they talked to 194 people a day, roughly, but 57 more for today's vs. yesterday's.

As of yesterday, 47 more people preferred Biden in the four-way. Today, 66. So... that's an increase of 7.5% for the post-debate day compared with five days before! While I doubt that full increase will hold, I imagine some of it will, given the short window from now to the election and the lack of other head-to-head events giving a big chance for Trump to gain much.

I'll take it. It's big enough for me, certainly for starters.

50.7

Thats a big number.

Thanks for the update - I didnt realize IBD did weekend work

Looking back Biden was at 50.3 a week ago - and had a bigger lead than today (Trump has gone up more than Biden has)

Post debate bump?  It would appear so.  Lets see what Monday brings (I assume they dont work Sunday)
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« Reply #54382 on: October 24, 2020, 10:38:20 AM »

Likely many more have the virus now than reported, as well.


Sure - but by a lowere %

And as someone else posted - clearly evident that the rate pf death is not as high as they report.
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« Reply #54383 on: October 24, 2020, 10:41:37 AM »

Likely many more have the virus now than reported, as well.


Sure - but by a lowere %

And as someone else posted - clearly evident that the rate pf death is not as high as they report.

regardless, there is still no real plan in the WH to contain the virus and limit its impact on Americans.

Even if you survive the virus, we know that there are long haulers who continue to try to recover from it. We know that there is real damage to the hearts and lungs of those who have contracted it, and we don't know what that means as yet.

But we do know that the Trump GOP is not the crew who will lead the nation out of this particular wilderness. That is what they have proven with their gross negligence and incompetence dealing with the pandemic.
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« Reply #54384 on: October 24, 2020, 10:48:45 AM »

Texas could be the linchpin to getting rid of the Electoral College:

https://theweek.com/speedreads/945527/how-texas-could-linchpin-finally-dismantling-electoral-college

That's been my thought since 2016.

But... given the direction things seem to be headed in, will the Dems want it to go away this time?

We got an overwhelming bi-partisan majority of the House to support getting rid of it in 1969, with both Nixon and Humphrey endorsing the measure. But the southern senators blocked it, fearing to lose power. (And given that it was Wallace that the move was in response to, just imaging their deeper motivation.)

But, if we were to get rid of the EC, we'd better offer something of substance to the paranoid middle of the country.

Those middle of the country voters are who put us in this shit.

They’ll get policies that will tangibly make their lives better but they’ll resist because hey! ‘Murica!’


If Dems have the power to make such a move they ought to just do it.

In many situations it is better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

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« Reply #54385 on: October 24, 2020, 10:50:33 AM »

Texas could be the linchpin to getting rid of the Electoral College:

https://theweek.com/speedreads/945527/how-texas-could-linchpin-finally-dismantling-electoral-college

That's been my thought since 2016.

But... given the direction things seem to be headed in, will the Dems want it to go away this time?

We got an overwhelming bi-partisan majority of the House to support getting rid of it in 1969, with both Nixon and Humphrey endorsing the measure. But the southern senators blocked it, fearing to lose power. (And given that it was Wallace that the move was in response to, just imaging their deeper motivation.)

But, if we were to get rid of the EC, we'd better offer something of substance to the paranoid middle of the country.


I don't think we have anything to offer them. And it's their (ostensible) leaders who are going to be crying for the change.

They are going to be sure the fix is in against them and that they are slated to be minorities in this country - and they know how they have traditionally treated those minorities, so it makes them anxious and depressed. Hence the increase in both direct and indirect (slow) suicide rates among them.

And I think the only thing that might convince them otherwise is going to be time - time in which they might perceive that their fears are not realized.

Unfortunately, I expect a spread of a conspiracy theory that claims the reason they've become a minority and are also dying faster than replication is a plot, whether by Democrats, by Blacks/Hispanics, or by some other nefarious body (like the Jews).

I've already seen an increase in the spread of John Rockefeller's supposed Masonic Creed (which includes references to video games!), though in that case it is all about keeping "them" down by not letting them know they are "our" equals.
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« Reply #54386 on: October 24, 2020, 10:55:17 AM »




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« Reply #54387 on: October 24, 2020, 10:56:50 AM »

Bush might have initiated ending the Shuttle program, which was foolish, but the Shuttle program was terminated on Obama's watch, and Rockwell should have been saved. All of the money that went to Space X, and to Russia, etc, could have went to Rockwell and could have saved jobs in my hometown. And I know Boeing is to blame too. My hometown was a beautiful, proud area, now it is a ghetto with a high crime-rate. And it is happening all over America. Once proud areas are turning into ghettos. Once proud people are now unemployed and ashamed. It sucks. Americans love to work, and Americans love to do great things. And America has always been so proud of NASA and our space program, and putting men on the moon was awesome, and my hometown was so proud of the Shuttles. We need leaders who will bring back our pride. We want to do great things, and we want to be proud of our accomplishments. America is a land of achievers.

Salute,

Tony V.

And yet, you've personally achieved very little.

How sad that you've wasted so many opportunities.

Perhaps you should consider looking within, instead of looking to be led.

Sheep.

Come on, UNO.

Most of us just function as best we can.
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« Reply #54388 on: October 24, 2020, 10:59:27 AM »

Tell us again, Ward and Kid, how Obama hurt America's standing in the world compared to Bush and how Trump strengthened it.

Ought to be good.
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« Reply #54389 on: October 24, 2020, 11:02:39 AM »

Tell us again, Ward and Kid, how Obama hurt America's standing in the world compared to Bush and how Trump strengthened it.

Ought to be good.

Oh, note: those are prior to COVID-19!
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