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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Flu shots only became free when the ACA was passed?

Class?  Anyone?  Bueller?

[barton]

Trump and the Boaty McBoatfacing of America

Four years of a joke president is long enough.

Jennifer Finney Boylan  -- Contributing Opinion Writer

Even now, four years later, it feels like a joke. The joke we played on ourselves.

No one thought it more ridiculous than the candidate himself. Michael Cohen, Donald Trump’s former consigliere, tells us that the 2016 campaign was supposed to be a branding opportunity, a means to an end, to be sure — but that end was never intended to be the White House.

So when he won the election, the joke was on Donald Trump. But also on all of us.

Michael Wolff — remember when his book “Fire and Fury” was so shocking? — wrote that election night left Mr. Trump and his circle dumbfounded and afraid. Don Jr. told a friend that his father “looked as if he had seen a ghost. Melania was in tears — and not of joy.” Steve Bannon, according to Mr. Wolff, described Mr. Trump as disbelieving, and then horrified.

Many of the people who voted for him probably thought it was a joke, too, at least until he won. He was our very own all-American Boaty McBoatface.

If you have somehow avoided Twitter for the last four-plus years (and if so, lucky you!), Boaty McBoatface was the result of Britain’s Natural Environment Research Council decision to let the internet name its new polar research vessel.

More serious suggestions included Shackleton, Endeavour and Falcon. But the winner, with nearly 125,000 votes, was Boaty McBoatface, a name submitted by a former BBC radio host as a joke. The name the council finally selected, Sir David Attenborough, came in fifth, just behind It’s Bloody Cold Here.

To get Boaty McBoatfaced means that you’ve made the critical mistake of letting the internet decide things. In other words, as much as we revere democracy, there are times — and they do typically involve the internet — when one’s fellow citizens deliberately make their choices not in order to foster the greatest societal good, but, instead, to mess with you.

Because they want to send a message. Because they think it might be kind of funny. And above all, you know: because they can.

Sometimes a Boatfacing seems all in good fun: The city of Austin, Texas, got McBoatfaced, for example, when it asked the internet to name its waste management service. The internet obliged by suggesting it be named in honor of Fred Durst, the frontman of the rock band Limp Bizkit.

Taylor Swift and VH1 got McBoatfaced when they asked the internet to choose a location for her forthcoming concert. The internet obliged by choosing the Horace Mann School for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. (Ms. Swift, proving once and for all that she is a good sport, donated $10,000 to the school, before settling on another venue.)

But sometimes these episodes can take a darker turn. Mountain Dew got McBoatfaced when it asked the internet to name its new flavor. The internet — largely driven by members of the message boards Reddit and 4chan — obliged by naming the new flavor “Hitler Did Nothing Wrong.”

And in 2016, when America asked its citizens to take seriously the business of choosing a president — that was the darkest turn of all. (Donald Trump happened to be the favorite candidate of the 4chan politics board.)

There are a lot of reasons people chose Mr. Trump in 2016. Some voters just loathed Hillary Clinton. Others genuinely yearned for the traditional Republican agenda: cutting taxes, appointing conservative judges. But surely there was another group who chose Mr. Trump for the lulz. Because a system that had given them choices they despised was a system that deserved to be trolled.

It’s enough to give disruption a bad name....

The column goes on to mention VERMIN SUPREME, who I know Josh is familiar with.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/28/opinion/trump-boaty-mcboatface.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

[josh]

Flu shots only became free when the ACA was passed?

ACA required insurance companies to make them free even of copays.

Some insurance companies covered them before that, some did not, but even those that did usually charged a copay.

[josh]

Rubella/measles/mumps?

We paid for those vaccines before Obama became president?

I wasn't aware.

And still aren't, as far as we can tell, Kid.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/brett-giroir-trump-coronavirus-testing/index.html

Giroir, testing czar, says Trump is wrong about the causes of increased case counts; calls for increasing testing further.

[kiidcarter8]

Flu shots only became free when the ACA was passed?

ACA required insurance companies to make them free even of copays.

Some insurance companies covered them before that, some did not, but even those that did usually charged a copay.

nah.......

[josh]

Flu shots only became free when the ACA was passed?

ACA required insurance companies to make them free even of copays.

Some insurance companies covered them before that, some did not, but even those that did usually charged a copay.

nah.......

Oh? Have evidence to support your contention?

I have evidence to support mine, dipshit.

[josh]

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/27/ice-irwin-women-hysterectomies-senate

More governmental malfeasance.

[kiidcarter8]

No way in hell are Americans going to have to pay for COVID tests if Trump is re-elected.

[Yankguy1]

No way in hell are Americans going to have to pay for COVID tests if Trump is re-elected.

Shhhh.  Red might call him a socialist.

[bambu.]

Best to have silent back up power in your home that no one knows about...generators can be heard by neighbours, causing a stampede.

How do you propose this silent back up power would work?

Nobody will notice your solar panels...

Portable power stations...Jackery etc brands.
1000w
1500w
1800w.
The Van Life community uses them all the time.
 A bank of those charged up from house power and alway kept ready would power 850w microwaves to heat canned soup.
Small cannisters of propane and camping stoves.
Camping fridges could be powered by the Jackerys.
USB lights run from small usb battery pack charged from a Jackery.
A US man who had to have his van repaired hired a U Haul truck and lived in the back of that for 2 nights.
He used a small camping stove to cook himself a nice steak and veg dinner.
He strung some usb lights from Amazon around in the u haul and drank some beer with his meal.
Slept in a sleeping bag.
Off grid living.

[LarryBnDC]

I am so surprised

Why not?

Federal tax issues, for one.  The PR economy is already a mess.  Cash in pocket would decrease and businesses would leave.

And the US doesnt want it.

Conservatives don’t want more folks who would most likely vote for the Democratic Party.

House couldnt pass a PR statehood bill when Obama was in office.

As if nothing has changed...

[oilcan]

 An inspiring response to Justice Kavanaugh's ill-informed opinion on Wisconsin ballots...

  “States want to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day and potentially flip the results of an election,” Kavanaugh wrote. “And those States also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter.”

In their statement Wednesday, Klobuchar and Sanders said that Kavanaugh’s opinion “contains incorrect information regarding voting.”

“In America, we count the votes to determine who wins an election,” the senators said. “Despite the incorrect assertions from President Trump and Justice Kavanaugh, election officials across the country accept ballots well after Election Day every year, and results are not certified until the votes are counted and a canvas to confirm the results is conducted. Absentee ballots counted after election day do not ‘flip the results of an election,’ as Justice Kavanaugh claimed. They are the results of the election.”

The two senators noted that more than 20 states require that ballots postmarked by Election Day must be counted even if they are received after Election Day.

“This is critical to ensuring that those who may face hardships in voting, including members of our military serving abroad and those affected by covid-19, are not disenfranchised by things like mail delays,” they said. “These are not new rules and they do not serve any political party. It is on all of us to reject misinformation and to tell the truth. … The best defense against those trying to undermine our democracy is the resolve of the American people, who are voting by the millions as we speak. Keep voting.”   

[facilitatorn]

No way in hell are Americans going to have to pay for COVID tests if Trump is re-elected.

Shhhh.  Red might call him a socialist.

There won’t be Covid tests if trump is re-elected. Someone with a sharpie at the morgue will scribble “natural causes” on each and every toe tag.

That’s the kind of quality care we can expect with further trumping of America.

No more and never again.

I’m not the only one immune to the late appeals of vile scumbags on team trump,

http://thebulwark.com/wtf-donald-trump-loves-women-now/

[LarryBnDC]

Elderly supporters left in the lurch by Trump campaign...


TRUMP DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SNYONE BUT TRUMP.