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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[Hairy Lime]

Larry, the same applies to the problems Steven Miller is having with not being white.

And Jay Sekulow and Jared Kushner.

These motherfuckers see this pandemic as a final solution of sorts.

Would it be okay if used the same term to describe them?

Poor choice of words, Larry. Reflects the prejudice towards Jews that is found so often in the black community.

No, I don't think so. Some terms should be left to stand only within their original meaning. Like "lynching", for example. Would it be okay for someone here to say that Trump administration has been lynched by the fake news media?

Using terms in this way reduces the value of their original meaning, which I think causes more harm than it creates good.

We are free to use them, but we cannot escape the judgement that comes with those choices.

I dont entirely disagree, but both lynching and final solution have long since been used out of those contexts, even when clearly referring to that context. And lynching as that whole Ox Bow Incident context as well.

And there is this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4RBiHgrAw

[kiidcarter8]

"This President is fighting for America.  That's what I'm fighting for -- to make sure that every American has their chance to live the American dream and against the socialist policies that Joe Biden is espousing every day."



- Kelly Loeffler

clap clap clap

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/kelly-loeffler-access-hollywood-tape/index.html

[bankshot1]

I don't know if knicks use was intentionally prejudicial, but I agree with Utley that it was a poor choice of words.

IMO "final solution" is a pretty loaded term, with its understanding generally known.

While Trump's fascination and flirting (or heavy dating) with fascism, and that he is admires authoritarian dictators, blurs the distinction between the 30's Nazi's and authoritarianism, I think equating the Nazi's long-term meticulous plan and goal for the extermination of European Jews and other peoples seen as less than human, with the Trump administration's inept response to a virus is wrong as it diminshes the pure evil of Hitler by comapring it to the greed, corruption and stupidity of Trump. 

[Hamilton Samuels]

Larry, the same applies to the problems Steven Miller is having with not being white.

And Jay Sekulow and Jared Kushner.

These motherfuckers see this pandemic as a final solution of sorts.

Would it be okay if used the same term to describe them?

Poor choice of words, Larry. Reflects the prejudice towards Jews that is found so often in the black community.

No, I don't think so. Some terms should be left to stand only within their original meaning. Like "lynching", for example. Would it be okay for someone here to say that Trump administration has been lynched by the fake news media?

Using terms in this way reduces the value of their original meaning, which I think causes more harm than it creates good.

We are free to use them, but we cannot escape the judgement that comes with those choices.

I dont entirely disagree, but both lynching and final solution have long since been used out of those contexts, even when clearly referring to that context. And lynching as that whole Ox Bow Incident context as well.

And there is this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4RBiHgrAw

What is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular.

[Hamilton Samuels]

I don't know if knicks use was intentionally prejudicial, but I agree with Utley that it was a poor choice of words.

IMO "final solution" is a pretty loaded term, with its understanding generally known.

While Trump's fascination and flirting (or heavy dating) with fascism, and that he is admires authoritarian dictators, blurs the distinction between the 30's Nazi's and authoritarianism, I think equating the Nazi's long-term meticulous plan and goal for the extermination of European Jews and other peoples seen as less than human, with the Trump administration's inept response to a virus is wrong as it diminshes the pure evil of Hitler by comapring it to the greed, corruption and stupidity of Trump.

Well said.

[Hairy Lime]

"This President is fighting for America.  That's what I'm fighting for -- to make sure that every American has their chance to live the American dream and against the socialist policies that Joe Biden is espousing every day."



- Kelly Loeffler

clap clap clap

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/kelly-loeffler-access-hollywood-tape/index.html

Cool. We.can add Loeffler and kiid to the long list of people who do not know what socialism is.

[josh]

"This President is fighting for America.  That's what I'm fighting for -- to make sure that every American has their chance to live the American dream and against the socialist policies that Joe Biden is espousing every day."



- Kelly Loeffler

clap clap clap

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/kelly-loeffler-access-hollywood-tape/index.html

Doing her best to make sure she is not in the run-off by running off her mouth.

[Hairy Lime]

Larry, the same applies to the problems Steven Miller is having with not being white.

And Jay Sekulow and Jared Kushner.

These motherfuckers see this pandemic as a final solution of sorts.

Would it be okay if used the same term to describe them?

Poor choice of words, Larry. Reflects the prejudice towards Jews that is found so often in the black community.

No, I don't think so. Some terms should be left to stand only within their original meaning. Like "lynching", for example. Would it be okay for someone here to say that Trump administration has been lynched by the fake news media?

Using terms in this way reduces the value of their original meaning, which I think causes more harm than it creates good.

We are free to use them, but we cannot escape the judgement that comes with those choices.

I dont entirely disagree, but both lynching and final solution have long since been used out of those contexts, even when clearly referring to that context. And lynching as that whole Ox Bow Incident context as well.

And there is this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4RBiHgrAw

What is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular.

Well, I really just wanted to post the Pere Ubu clip. Which actually referred to the AC Doyle story The Final Problem. Allegedly.

[Hamilton Samuels]

MUTINY!!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/lowest-form-of-life-trump-hits-out-at-republicans-turning-against-him-after-public-clashes-with-lincoln-project-b1403914.html?amp

Donald Trump revved up supporters in Arizona when he dubbed Republicans officials who oppose him the “lowest form of human life.”

“A RINO might be the lowest form of human life. … They have nothing but disdain for you and your values,” he told rally-goers in Bullhead City. “They lecture you on everything.”

Disdain!! Lowest firm of life!!!

Lecture!!!

[kiidcarter8]

Test balloon for Barton -

what type of ban would you give Larry for his statement that is currently at issue here?

[josh]

RCP's presidential average is back up to 7.7 despite their playing with numbers by rounding 5.5 down to 5 instead of up to 6 and leaving off the USC +12 from their average despite its including more recent data than a bunch of the others.

Nor have they shifted to using the 7 day, instead of 14 day, as they did once when the 7 day was far lower.

Then they round 7.7777777 down to 7.7.

I'm sure it is all coincidence because Kid is sure that they don't lean to the right (despite what independent evaluators say).

[josh]

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/exclusive-a-child-held-at-border-patrols-troubled-clint-facility-shares-her-story

[josh]

MUTINY!!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/lowest-form-of-life-trump-hits-out-at-republicans-turning-against-him-after-public-clashes-with-lincoln-project-b1403914.html?amp

Donald Trump revved up supporters in Arizona when he dubbed Republicans officials who oppose him the “lowest form of human life.”

“A RINO might be the lowest form of human life. … They have nothing but disdain for you and your values,” he told rally-goers in Bullhead City. “They lecture you on everything.”

Disdain!! Lowest firm of life!!!

Lecture!!!

Is that better or worse than calling them deplorable?!

[Hamilton Samuels]

Test balloon for Barton -

what type of ban would you give Larry for his statement that is currently at issue here?

That test balloon has no air. A poor choice of words is different than a deliberate choice of words.

It has a  different set of consequences.

Then again, you don't seem to do nuance.

[kiidcarter8]

RCP's presidential average is back up to 7.7 despite their playing with numbers by rounding 5.5 down to 5 instead of up to 6 and leaving off the USC +12 from their average despite its including more recent data than a bunch of the others.

Nor have they shifted to using the 7 day, instead of 14 day, as they did once when the 7 day was far lower.

Then they round 7.7777777 down to 7.7.

I'm sure it is all coincidence because Kid is sure that they don't lean to the right (despite what independent evaluators say).

IBD - Biden +5
The Hill -  Biden +4
Rasmussen -  Biden +1


All you need to know

Oh - that and the 52% approval Trump is sporting from Rasmussen  (Obama was at about 46/47% this time in 2012)