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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[bodiddley]

I hate the practice of Dem presidents picking GOPers for their cabinet.  Especially when it used to always be Defense and something national security (FBI/CIA).  Seemingly an acknowledgement that Dems were weak in those areas.  Stick with your convictions, develop your own policies, which are better and less warlike.

Build your own bench.
If need be, pick right-center Dems or one or two from Red states.  But really better to select from purple states such as GA and AZ and NC (and FLA).  Build the Dem bench in those states.

[kidcarter8]

Arnie Vinnick was a great hire

[bankshot1]

If Joe B knows and trusts the judgement of a moderate Repub in a specfic area and knows that said person could be an effective administrator and voice for his policies in that area, given the overheated partisan nature of our politics and Biden's view of working across the aisle, I have no problem whatsoever with him choosing the best available person to advance his policies and run a department. I think it sends a positive message. IMO only considering Dems for high level positions is idiotic and runs counter to furthering our national interests. 

Rather than show weakness it demonstrates strength in that you're not afraid of picking the best people independent of how they've voted in the past.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Yep, Reform the Police.
But Defund the Police was a bold eye-catching controversial message that caught people's attention to the issue/problem.

During the 2020 election, a bunch of cities passed police reform measures ranging from civilian review boards to funding for mental health initiatives.  And people became more aware of alternatives to sending police to deal with homeless and other matters where social workers and mental health pros can do better.

Some local pols needed to do a better job of explaining their position and providing nuance and details to counter the GOP broadbrush/smear.   The Dems should have looked at it as an opportunity to discuss what wasn't working and how to have better policing and better outcomes.  Contrast with the GOP-supported practice of militarizing the police which isn't popular.  Do the hard work of explaining.

Overall big net minus for democrats.

[josh]

Arnie Vinnick was a great hire

I give him alda credit in the world for not making a mash of the whole thing. He had a piercing wit, to be sure.

[josh]

https://apnews.com/article/oregon-elections-director-fired-text-4fbcddeb7f13601f95a34df78bc1fad2

The Oregon Sec'y of State (gop) fired the head of elections (Dem) with about a month before the latter was leaving anyway, after the latter pointed out the problems with running your elections on an MS Server from 2008...

[Hamilton Samuels]

Republican Leader McCarthy may actually have an ability to form an alliance with 10 or 12 Democrats, who literally are in districts where they're going to get wiped out in '22 unless they find some way to separate," Gingrich told "America's Newsroom."

"If that happens, McCarthy actually will have more maneuvering on the floor than will Speaker Pelosi," he added.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/congress-house-representatives-democrats-pelosi-mccarthy-election-2020-newt-gingrich

Fuck Newt Gingrich.

Given the choice between Republicans and Republicans lite voters will go for the real thing.

Moderate Democrats still haven’t figured out regardless the district you have to give voters a real choice.

https://exjournalistsunite.wordpress.com/2019/08/22/remember-democrats-the-middle-of-the-road-is-where-you-get-run-over/

Except a moderate just won the White House.

I believe the discussion was about House districts.


Democrats have to learn weaponized slogans about police reform (Defund the Police) and Socialism
are racial resentment attacks.

That has to be addressed directly, not shied away from.

Why don't you go teach them? You have such a strong track record of political success here, particularly when it comes to folks truly grasping issues of racial intolerance and bigotry. Maybe you could give them lessons on those things. I mean, when you're not busy at the Elks Club talking down the Jews.

[josh]

How desperate is the GOP?

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-Lt-Gov-Dan-Patrick-offers-1-million-15716973.php

Pretty damned desperate.

But think about it - if a million dollars is not enough to unearth the fraud you are all so sure is out there, what do you suppose would be?!

[Hamilton Samuels]

"Defund the Police" needs to give way to "Fund our Communities" and "Re-train the Police"

How about if the police and the community sit down and have a chat about what this phrase means, first: "Protect and Serve".

 

[josh]

"Defund the Police" needs to give way to "Fund our Communities" and "Re-train the Police"

How about if the police and the community sit down and have a chat about what this phrase means, first: "Protect and Serve".

Is that by the same author as "To Serve Man?"

[REDSTATEWARD]

Joe Biden the Presidential candidate promised  to fight COVID-19 and lockdown the country if “ scientists” advise it.

Well, Joe Biden’s Covid advisor Dr. Michael Osterholm called for a  4-6 week nationwide lockdown “like they did in New Zealand and Australia.”
Osterholm said a 6 week nationwide lockdown would get Covid under control and revive the economy.
“We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,” Osterholm said. “If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.”

Shutting down businesses and paying people for lost wages for four to six weeks could help keep the coronavirus pandemic in check and get the economy on track until a vaccine is approved and distributed, said Osterholm who serves as director of the Center of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota,(by definition a “ SCIENTIST)  Earlier  this week he predicted that the country is headed toward “Covid hell.” Cases are rising as more people grow tired of wearing masks and social distancing, suffering from so-called “pandemic fatigue,” Colder weather is also driving people indoors where the virus can spread more easily.
A nationwide lockdown would drive the number of new cases and hospitalizations down to manageable levels while the world awaits a vaccine, he told Yahoo Finance TODAY.

You might remember it was Osterholm who wrote a New York Times op-ed over the summer praising Chinese Communist style authoritarian lockdowns: To be effective, the lockdown has to be as comprehensive and strict as possible.
“We could really watch ourselves cruising into the vaccine availability in the first and second quarter of next year while bringing back the economy long before that,” he said Wednesday.

So remember this  Scientist cites successes in Australia and New Zealand( surrounded by ocean water) and China ( who willfully kill tens of thousands of its citizens, if not millions) in fighting the spread of the disease.


It might be useful to remember that Joe Biden previously got called out by a the remaining few news reporters not on the DNC payroll over his vow to lock down the US and conceded that a US President does not have the Constitutional authority to do so.

Oh those scientists?
LOL!

[facilitatorn]

So far Red is only brain dead from Covid 19. His mouth keeps moving, writing checks his ass can’t cash, but it’s reflex. The chicken hawk has lost his head.

[bankshot1]

It was argued here in June-July as covid was revving up again to close down the hot spots across the country to control the disease, and enable the safe reopening of schools and businesses by September.

sacrifice in July for 4-6 weeks to resume hopefully a normal life in September.

But instead we had Sturges and presidential rallys over the course of the summer.

Stupid selfish deplorable motherfuckers.

and big fucking surprise as the scientist predicted the virus regained strength, found new hosts, and now the US is being hit by a worse outbreak as we approached flu and the winter.

And Red laughs at science.

stupid selfish deplorable motherfucker.

[josh]

Pro-COVID-19 Ward will be pleased to know that we set new highs in new COVID-19 cases the last two days and that our daily average is almost 130k now vs. 35k two months ago. The current rate of increase is faster than anything seen at the national level, including that first spike in April.

Our new deaths the last couple days have been the highest since three months ago and the average new deaths is the highest in more than 12 weeks. That rate of increase has been pretty steep, too.

Hey, Ward, how many daily deaths do we need to have before you would think we need to do something about it? Or do you favor, like Kid does, letting it run out of control, waiting for the vaccine to "save" us?!

Turning the corner!

Only 100,000 deaths until Inauguration Day!

[josh]

Yesterday, in PA court, a Trump lawyer showed more wisdom than commitment to "the cause" he is espousing!

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1326345253360635904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1326589702338568192%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flawandcrime.com%2F2020-election%2Flawyers-litigating-for-trump-suddenly-remember-their-licenses-are-on-the-line-if-they-lie-to-a-judge%2F



Also in PA:

Republican Philadelphia City Commissioner on CNN: "I have seen the most fantastical things on social media, making completely ridiculous allegations that have no basis in fact at all...One thing I can't comprehend is how hungry people are to consume lies."