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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57390 on: November 18, 2020, 03:32:08 AM »

Just saw on the KTLA Channel 5 News that the new corona virus vaccine was invented by Vanderbilt University with money donated by Dolly Parton. That is very cool, she is a cool lady.

Salute,

Tony V.

She donated $1 million to Vanderbilt towards plasma studies... but I think it's inaccurate to say they invented the vaccine.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57391 on: November 18, 2020, 08:28:05 AM »

Trump acts dangerously undemocratic.
Claims he won.  Claims there was fraud.
Fires gov't officials who disagree with Trump's phony claims.
While most of the GOP leaders line up behind Trump.

But if the Dems do nothing and there's no penalty for this, the GOP will continue such rotten behavior.
They stole a Supreme Court seat and Obama Admin meekly acquiesced.  Of course they rammed another through right before the election.
If they don't have to pay a price for misbehavior and subverting democracy, they'll keep doing it.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57392 on: November 18, 2020, 08:35:13 AM »

Long term immunity looking likely/promising.
As antibodies fade after a few months, other aspects of the immune system remain in place and functional v. CV-19.  Estimates range form 8 months to 2 or 3 years.
Immunity to the Coronavirus May Last Years, New Data Hint
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57393 on: November 18, 2020, 08:39:11 AM »

In other news, putting Rudy in charge is good news for anti-Trump forces.  As everything Rudy touches devolves into farce.  It's almost like a white flag.
Expect some wild claims, a lack of evidence, contradictory statements and then the whole thing to capsize.

Btw, Trump a complete asshole til the end.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57394 on: November 18, 2020, 09:06:27 AM »

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57395 on: November 18, 2020, 09:45:48 AM »

https://secondnexus.com/raffensperger-trump-suppressed-own-votes

Georgia Sec'y of State Raffensperger explains how Trump suppressed his own votes.

When Republicans tried to eat their own,  Raffensperger was the wrong guy to put on the menu.   Now they have another Republican out there as part of the demolition crew of the Cathedral of Trumpism.   He and Ben Sasse and a few other prominent GOPs should meet up and form a new party, call it Conservatives Who Aren't Self-Destroying Zombies.   Give Jeff Flake a call.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57396 on: November 18, 2020, 09:51:32 AM »

Under what law can "the election be cancelled and done again"?

There must be a fraud law, surely.

Seriously, listen to Malcolm Turnbull when he tells your nation how Rupert Murdoch has taken near-total control of the news feed such that people get extremely biased RW opinionators instead of factual reporting.   Will post the talk show excerpt if I can retrieve it.

ETA:

https://youtu.be/L1mKwsciemo
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57397 on: November 18, 2020, 10:31:11 AM »

re;  ossof and Perdue

I am actually glad its not Kelly L going against Osoff

Loeffler should handle the good pastor just fine -

and she'd have had a much harder time with the other candidate (though be willing to debate him)

Perdue by a point and a half
Loeffler by slightly more.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #57398 on: November 18, 2020, 10:40:41 AM »

Trump's sore loser behavior is making that a much tighter race than it might have been.   

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« Reply #57399 on: November 18, 2020, 11:53:40 AM »

The actual matchups in GA give the Dems a chance to win both seats.
Which is what they need.
Turnout will be key, and Trump's disgraceful exit could help the Dems, since both GOP candidates tied themselves to Trumpism.
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« Reply #57400 on: November 18, 2020, 12:28:07 PM »

Out of state cash is a key.  Dems with big advantage

I guess Loeffler will put in some of her own cash

Both sides hard at work to dig up a scandal
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« Reply #57401 on: November 18, 2020, 12:30:33 PM »

I will mildly diverge from Oil and Bo to suggest that "disgraceful" is what give Trump's base a hard-on, and gets them to march to the polls in percentages only a demagogic populist can achieve.  Fighting lost causes like some demented Fight Robot, be it the restoration of coal energy or the cancelling of a lawful election, is one of the core personality traits that keep Trumpistas so loyal.  The most naive populist voter doesn't think "he's fighting because of his own bloated ego."  He thinks rather "He's fighting for ME!" 

I do think there's hope, if the GOTV folk can really leverage the fate of the 2021 Senate and the possibility of a unified Biden government in their pitch to Dems and Independents to go back to the polling stations (or mailboxes, or dropboxes).  And yes, some voters are repelled not only by the Sore Loser stuff, but by the attempt to undermine their vote for Biden. 

Out of state cash is a factor, but as the general election demonstrated, not as much as it used to be. 
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« Reply #57402 on: November 18, 2020, 12:37:00 PM »

Perdue tried to make a scandal out of Ossoff supposedly getting money from China.
What happened was Ossoff, an investigative reporter, was involved in making some documentaries, one of which was sold to a HongKong media outlet.  Ossoff was the producer of the doc and got $2000 from it being shown in HK.  Pretty sure he had no say in where it was sold, but jeez airing a documentary in Hong Kong is hardly cozying up to Chinese commies.  And it's probably positive that it was viewed in HK, but of course Perdue could care less about the content.  Not to mention the sum involved was negigible.
Pretty dishonest smear from Perdue.
Who seems like an awful anachronism.
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« Reply #57403 on: November 18, 2020, 12:39:23 PM »

Light a fire under your base; lose some suburban moderates.
That's the cliff edge Trumpism walks along.
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« Reply #57404 on: November 18, 2020, 12:51:04 PM »

Out of state cash is a key.  Dems with big advantage

I guess Loeffler will put in some of her own cash

Both sides hard at work to dig up a scandal
Maybe she can do more insider trading to raise funds.
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