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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59475 on: December 08, 2020, 01:44:23 PM »

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/08/arizona-republican-party-asks-if-followers-die-election-president-donald-trump/6488952002/

Arizona GOP asks followers if they're willing to die in effort to overturn election results

The majority said no - and many observed that it was a dangerous or absurd question.

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The Arizona Republican Party has asked its followers if they are willing to die for the cause of overturning the presidential election results, eliciting alarm and criticism in response.

The party's official Twitter account on Monday night shared a post from Ali Alexander, an activist with an organization called "Stop the Steal" that has protested election results.

"I am willing to give my life for this fight," Alexander wrote. When sharing the post, the GOP asked followers: "He is. Are you?"

The GOP then posted a clip from the movie "Rambo", highlighting the quote: “This is what we do, who we are. Live for nothing, or die for something.”

A handful of users replied they were indeed willing to give their lives to the cause. But the majority of respondents — which included voters, lawmakers and pundits — decried the posts as "dangerous" and "insane."
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59476 on: December 08, 2020, 02:03:02 PM »

President Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.

DISCUSS.
At what point can we describe what Trump is trying as an attempted coup d'etat? Recounts are one thing, factually baseless law suits another, but the attempt to simply legislate around the vote should be shocking and repellant to everyone.

This is incorrect

Oddly enough, the judges disagree with you, Kid.

Repeatedly.

This is also incorrect

The judges are stating that the evidence doesnt turn the state to Trump, not that fraud did not happen.

This was always about getting it to the federal courts.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59477 on: December 08, 2020, 02:03:36 PM »

Trump administration officials passed when Pfizer offered in late summer to sell the U.S. more vaccine doses.
LOL!
Missed a few details but that is you.

Still waiting to find out what you think those details are:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/trump-vaccine-pfizer-coronavirus-executive-order/index.html

The Trump administration is claiming this is not so, even as one of their own officials says they should not have turned down Pfizer.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59478 on: December 08, 2020, 02:07:11 PM »

And it just gets better

Texas Asks SCOTUS to Declare Election
in 4 Battleground States Unconstitutional

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed suit on Tuesday against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, claiming the four states exploited the pandemic to justify ignoring election laws.

In papers filed with the U.S. Supreme Court, Paxton claimed the states unlawfully enacted last-minute changes, which skewed the results of the general election.

The papers also allege that the majority of the rushed decisions, made by local officials, were not approved by the state legislatures, thereby circumventing the Constitution.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59479 on: December 08, 2020, 02:07:40 PM »

Texas asks for a lot of things they don’t get.

President Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.

DISCUSS.
At what point can we describe what Trump is trying as an attempted coup d'etat? Recounts are one thing, factually baseless law suits another, but the attempt to simply legislate around the vote should be shocking and repellant to everyone.

This is incorrect

Oddly enough, the judges disagree with you, Kid.

Repeatedly.

This is completely also incorrect

The judges are stating that the evidence doesnt turn the state to Trump, not and that fraud did not happen.

This was always about getting it to the federal courts fleecing the rubes.

FIFY, rube.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59480 on: December 08, 2020, 02:13:15 PM »

President Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.

DISCUSS.
At what point can we describe what Trump is trying as an attempted coup d'etat? Recounts are one thing, factually baseless law suits another, but the attempt to simply legislate around the vote should be shocking and repellant to everyone.

This is incorrect

Oddly enough, the judges disagree with you, Kid.

Repeatedly.

This is also incorrect

The judges are stating that the evidence doesnt turn the state to Trump, not that fraud did not happen.

This was always about getting it to the federal courts.

You're full of shit, Kit. Your eyes are brown from the oozing.

Give me examples that contradict my claim.

Also, it's not always about getting it to the federal courts." These cases have been in both federal and state courts from the  start.

The federal cases may have always been intended to get to SCOTUS, but lack of evidence is problematic at any court level and you are not allowed to introduce evidence for the first time to them - they are not weighing the case, they are weighing the prior decision.


“It can be easy to blithely move on to the next case with a petition so obviously lacking, but this is sobering,” wrote Justice Brian Hagedorn of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. “Judicial acquiescence to such entreaties built on so flimsy a foundation would do indelible damage to every future election. . . . This is a dangerous path we are being asked to tread.”


In a detailed, 35-page decision, Judge James T. Russell of the Nevada District Court in Carson City vetted each claim of fraud and wrongdoing made by the Trump campaign in the state and found that none was supported by convincing proof. The campaign “did not prove under any standard of proof that illegal votes were cast and counted, or legal votes were not counted at all, due to voter fraud, nor in an amount equal to or greater than” Biden’s margin of victory, which was about 33,600 votes, Russell wrote.

Among its allegations, the campaign claimed that more than 61,000 people voted twice or from out-of-state.

In his ruling, Russell concurred with election officials and academic experts that there is no evidence for this, and specifically dismissed witness declarations that had been touted by the campaign, calling them “self-serving statements of little or no evidentiary value.”


Meanwhile, in Arizona, Judge Randall Warner of the Maricopa County Superior Court ruled Friday that he found “no misconduct, no fraud and no effect on the outcome of the election” in a suit brought by the Arizona Republican Party and its chairwoman, Kelli Ward.





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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59481 on: December 08, 2020, 02:13:30 PM »

When I was a limousine driver in Malibu, I drove a lot of people from Amgen, they obviously treat their workers well as they owned great houses and took limousines to the airport. Judging by how the workers lived, I bet Amgen is a good company to work for, and they are trying to cure diseases and stuff, so it is a worthwhile job, they are trying to make the world a better place.

Here is their link...
 
https://www.amgen.com/
 
Here is their Wikipedia page...
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amgen
 
They treat their workers very well.
 
Salute,
 
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59482 on: December 08, 2020, 02:13:56 PM »

President Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state, reflecting a broadening pressure campaign by the president and his allies to try to subvert the 2020 election result.

DISCUSS.
At what point can we describe what Trump is trying as an attempted coup d'etat? Recounts are one thing, factually baseless law suits another, but the attempt to simply legislate around the vote should be shocking and repellant to everyone.

This is incorrect

Oddly enough, the judges disagree with you, Kid.

Repeatedly.

This is also incorrect

The judges are stating that the evidence doesnt turn the state to Trump, not that fraud did not happen.

This was always about getting it to the federal courts.

Where Moscow Mitch has stacked the deck?
I’m not sure but I don’t think there are enough cultists on the bench.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59483 on: December 08, 2020, 02:15:13 PM »

And it just gets better

Texas Asks SCOTUS to Declare Election
in 4 Battleground States Unconstitutional

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed suit on Tuesday against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, claiming the four states exploited the pandemic to justify ignoring election laws.

Once again, Kid, as before - too little, too late.

They are only protesting because they don't like either the election results or the court results.

This is a frivolous suit and your cheering it on is stupid, same as usual.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59484 on: December 08, 2020, 02:18:51 PM »

And it just gets better

Texas Asks SCOTUS to Declare Election
in 4 Battleground States Unconstitutional

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed suit on Tuesday against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, claiming the four states exploited the pandemic to justify ignoring election laws.

In papers filed with the U.S. Supreme Court, Paxton claimed the states unlawfully enacted last-minute changes, which skewed the results of the general election.

The papers also allege that the majority of the rushed decisions, made by local officials, were not approved by the state legislatures, thereby circumventing the Constitution.


Fuck that guy!

Another polite motherfucker, “I beg your pardon!”

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/25/ken-paxton-criminal-case-moved/
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59485 on: December 08, 2020, 02:22:18 PM »

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/coronavirus/?id=74578775

Coronavirus live updates: 'Warp Speed' chief doesn't know what executive order Trump is signing
"I don't know and, frankly, I'm staying out of this," he told ABC's "GMA."
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« Reply #59486 on: December 08, 2020, 02:26:28 PM »

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/coronavirus/?id=74578775

Coronavirus live updates: 'Warp Speed' chief doesn't know what executive order Trump is signing
"I don't know and, frankly, I'm staying out of this," he told ABC's "GMA."


Pfizer and Moderna ‘declined’ to attend the Warp Speed conference today.

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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #59487 on: December 08, 2020, 02:30:53 PM »

Is Red taking leave today?  If not, why is Kid attempting to fulfill the role of legal scholar?  I guess he feels "Ms. Ellis" has taught him well.
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« Reply #59488 on: December 08, 2020, 02:34:13 PM »

Kid apparently missed this, yesterday:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ship-sailed-courts-reject-cases-pro-trump-lawyer/story?id=74585342

As a series of judges have done in the weeks since Trump lost to Democrat Joe Biden, U.S. District Judge Timothy Batten, a Bush appointee, rejected the notion that the president's supporters could re-litigate the outcome in the courts. The judge granted motions to dismiss the lawsuit on the grounds that the suit did not belong in federal court.

In Michigan, U.S. District Judge Parker focused on Powell's lack of focus, writing that "with nothing but speculation and conjecture that votes for President Trump were destroyed, discarded or switched to votes for Vice President Biden, Plaintiffs' equal protection claim fails."
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