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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[josh]

"Vaccine not the answer.  Cant take a fire hose and put out a wildfire"


Pessimist.

Vaccine's not the answer for 4-8 more months, at best, because, as Joe put it, there is no federal vaccine distribution plan!

Kid's okay with 360,000-800,000 more deaths from the pandemic.

But hey, it will cut down on flu and whooping cough deaths by maybe 10k, total.

Kid's okay with 360,000-800,000 more deaths from the pandemic.


heh

Well...I would really like Joe to do an even better job than Trump with re to COVID.  He has a nice head start.  And yes, a system is in place.

"He has a nice head start" - A daily death rate that has tripled in 7 weeks. A daily new cases rate that is 477% larger than it was less than 3 months ago. And the Thanksgiving surge is just about to get going.

Crock of shit, Kid.

No, not our pessimism. And no, not really on Biden - this is the hand that Trump is giving Biden, with his persistent refusal to push mask-wearing and his lies.

Who says it's not pessimism? The WH coronavirus task force.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/coronavirus-task-force-vaccines/index.html

White House task force warns states that vaccines will not reduce Covid spread until late spring

Late spring - 174 days until the end of May.
2300/day = 400,000 additional deaths.
3000/day = 522,000
4000/day = 696,000
5000/day = 870,000, which would put us up to 1.1 million deaths.

[josh]

Does one state even have standing to argue about how another state conducts its election?

No.

And that's without getting into the timing (which every court up and down has already said is suspect for a bunch of theses cases, including SCOTUS).

[bambu.]

Vaccine, masks, frequent handwashing, and strict social distancing (where possible)...WILL defeat Covid-19 , the flu, etc.

[Kam]

I've got him blocked but i can't escape his trolling.   Please don't quote kidcarter.   Thanks.

[facilitatorn]

I try to obfuscate his most poisonous links when I do. Sometimes it helps if the thread has progressed to quote if you are responding.

[facilitatorn]

“A system is in place” is true in the same world where republican tax cuts ever help the economy and where more guns make people safer.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/supreme-court-pennsylvania-trump-biden/index.html

Supreme Court rejects Pennsylvania Republicans' attempt to block Biden victory

One line order.

No dissents.

The final briefs came in this afternoon. This was tweeted out 55 minutes ago.

[josh]

Speaking of lawsuits:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/08/politics/chris-krebs-lawsuit/index.html

Krebs is suing the Trump campaign.

[REDSTATEWARD]

This is missing D-Day (2500+) and the 1918 pandemic's October, where enough died that likely several days would have made the count.

But it's also missing that last Thursday was probably around 3,100 dead according the IHME.

And you get the idea. There is a good chance that every one of those spots will be filled by COVID-19 except for #1 - I doubt Galveston will be exceeded, but certainly not pushed off the list, even if beaten. I pray.

What exactly is your point in figuratively comparing apples and oranges?
According to the CDC here are the top causes of deaths per year in the USA.

Heart disease: 655,381
Cancer: 599,274
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 167,127
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 159,486
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 147,810
Alzheimer’s disease: 122,019
Diabetes: 84,946
Influenza and pneumonia: 59,120
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 51,386
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 48,344

It figures out to an average of about 5,800 a day.

Get a grip.

Even if you attribute all 285,000 deaths SOLELY to COVID( which is not true) the average is about 850 a day.

[barton]

I've got him blocked but i can't escape his trolling.   Please don't quote kidcarter.   Thanks.

I will have to block you.   Show some respect. 

Whatever Trump does,  you all hate him and will find a way to make him look bad,  ignoring all the good he's doing.   

Just stoooppppppp.

There's plenty of evidence of election fraud,  but the media keeps it from us,  because judges say it's not technically proof.   And all journalists are leftist libtards.

[insert tv journalist name here] should just fucking shut up.   

Led by the nose.   

A lot of blacks really appreciate Trump.

Trump is a really smart guy.   He knows so much more than you dumb fucks.

Josh wants lots of people to die,  so Democrats will look good next year.

You guys should learn to be more civil and positive.

[House Gang of Four name here] is a stupid fucking bitch!   

[Female politician in Democratic Party name here] is an evil cunt!


There you go -- no need for KidC quotes -- just use this handy reference tool!

[josh]

This is missing D-Day (2500+) and the 1918 pandemic's October, where enough died that likely several days would have made the count.

But it's also missing that last Thursday was probably around 3,100 dead according the IHME.

And you get the idea. There is a good chance that every one of those spots will be filled by COVID-19 except for #1 - I doubt Galveston will be exceeded, but certainly not pushed off the list, even if beaten. I pray.

What exactly is your point in figuratively comparing apples and oranges?
According to the CDC here are the top causes of deaths per year in the USA.

Heart disease: 655,381
Cancer: 599,274
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 167,127
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 159,486
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 147,810
Alzheimer’s disease: 122,019
Diabetes: 84,946
Influenza and pneumonia: 59,120
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 51,386
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 48,344

It figures out to an average of about 5,800 a day.

Get a grip.

Even if you attribute all 285,000 deaths SOLELY to COVID( which is not true) the average is about 850 a day.

(a) Pretty funny to be lectured about apples to oranges, then see what your post includes.

(b) Yes, all 285,000 deaths are COVID-19, despite your efforts to occlude the issue.

(c) As previously established, places like Florida deliberately undercounted the deaths.

(d) From first death from COVID-19 to now is 304 days. That would be 937.5 deaths per day, but going from first death in a disease is a pretty stupid way to calculate. Further, 285k is a pretty low number to use for this given that the disease hasn't stopped killing yet.

(e) We've pushed to address accidental deaths from cars by changing the laws. That includes fines for not wearing seatbelts. Why are masks different to you?

(f) Most of want restrictions on the cause of a huge chunk of suicide deaths, too. You're opposed. "Go death!" says Ward.

(g) Your post is even more pointless and stupid than you think mine is.

[kidcarter8]

He has a nice head start" - A daily death rate that has tripled in 7 weeks. A daily new cases rate that is 477% larger than it was less than 3 months ago. And the Thanksgiving surge is just about to get going.

Crock of shit, Kid.

Looking at things in relative terms is not your strong suit.

Nice celebration today in DC.  Thanks to the masses working so hard to get this vaccine approved and to the so many that will be doing great work on the distributing end.

No greater nation.

[kidcarter8]

Vaccine, masks, frequent handwashing, and strict social distancing (where possible)...WILL defeat Covid-19 , the flu, etc.

WHAT ELSE??

Stop saying the same shit.

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Hearing Rudy is on the REGENERON program Trump made famous - and may be released tomorrow.  The recoveries such as this are often overlooked successes as the morbid among us cite the dead.

[bankshot1]

Without criticiing Red's meanigless apples and oranges fruit salad comparison of deadly diseases or his inability to account for the sharply rising trend in covid deaths due to lack of proper public health policies, Red seems curiously unaffected by the needless death of some 285,000 Americans to date, and more curious his indifference to the likely death of another 250,000 to 500,000 Americans in the coming months.

Red seems to have the same gene for callous indifference to death and suffering so many of his sociopathic ancestors in the fatherland had.

[kidcarter8]

I've got him blocked but i can't escape his trolling.   Please don't quote kidcarter.   Thanks.

Oh good now I can stop being so nice to you.