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What do you expect on Wednesday?

Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.
- 5 (45.5%)
A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.
- 5 (45.5%)
A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.
- 0 (0%)
More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.
- 0 (0%)
A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.
- 1 (9.1%)
More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.
- 0 (0%)
DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.
- 0 (0%)
Huge disruption to the day.
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM


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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60030 on: December 13, 2020, 07:57:12 AM »

Tasmania is powered by 100% renewable energy now.

Biden didn't say what you claim he did, Bambi, but what else is new. You swallow GOP lies almost as readily as Ward and Kid.

Biden:
"I would transition from the oil industry, yes", because the oil industry pollutes significantly."
So, people take that to mean he's going to start knocking off the oil industry now.
 
In 2019 US produced about 19.25 million barrels of petroleum per day...and it consumed about 20.46 million barrels per day.
In 2019 the US imported petroleum from about 90 countries.

In 2019 the US exported petroleum to about 190 countries.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60031 on: December 13, 2020, 08:43:18 AM »

From the Fox News Poll

31.  Do you believe the presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump, or not?
Yes     No     (Don’t know)
36%  58        6

32. By contesting the election results in various states, do you think Donald Trump is strengthening or weakening American democracy?
 Strengthening Weakening (Don’t know)
36%                    56                 8

Questions 33-44 are for future release.

45. Would you like to see Donald Trump run for president again in 2024, or not?
Yes, run again No (Don’t know)
 37%             57        6

Sounds about right
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60032 on: December 13, 2020, 10:01:12 AM »

But, the "climate change emergency" devotees want it all now...which is simply impossible.

We want the CHANGES now.

We don't want the coal plants all stopped and the gas-powered cars turned off NOW.

We wanted us to move towards their all being off a decade or two ago, but people like YOU and #1 Radio Host who spent decades denying there was a problem and then (and still) denying that man-made pollutants could possibly be a major factor delayed it, so the sources cannot be turned off now.

So, we want the change to start now. 2030, 2035, they are a ton better than the never that the outgoing oval office occupant was aiming for.

Stop making up shit.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60033 on: December 13, 2020, 10:10:26 AM »

So far, Trump has wisely rejected a second debt bomb package that we were told was essential -- and yet 12.4 million more jobs were created without it.

University of Chicago economist Casey Mulligan and I estimate Trump saved 3 to 5 million jobs by not agreeing to $600-a-week bonus unemployment benefits. The Congressional Budget Office calculated that "roughly five of six recipients" were getting more from unemployment insurance payments than they would from working.

We all support a safety net for people who lose their job during the pandemic through no fault of their own. But paying people more for not working is no "stimulus" for the economy.  Moreover, getting the schools reopened so kids are in the classroom would allow three or four million more Americans (mostly working mothers) to go back to work.



https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-nancy-pelosi-gambit-stephen-moore
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« Reply #60034 on: December 13, 2020, 10:14:35 AM »

"Oracle is implementing a more flexible employee work location policy and has changed its Corporate Headquarters from Redwood City, California to Austin, Texas. We believe these moves best position Oracle for growth and provide our personnel with more flexibility about where and how they work. Depending on their role, this means that many of our employees can choose their office location as well as continue to work from home part-time or all of the time. In addition, we will continue to support major hubs for Oracle around the world, including those in the United States such as redwood City, Austin, Santa Monica, Seattle, Denver, Orlando and Burlington, among others, and we expect to add other locations over time. By implementing a more modern approach to work, we expect to further improve our employees’ quality of life and quality of output" the SEC filing noted.

While the move signals working remotely is here to stay, it also signals more corporations could be becoming disillusioned with California



https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/oracle-moving-from-cali-to-austin-joins-tesla-hewlett-packard
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« Reply #60035 on: December 13, 2020, 10:59:21 AM »

Young People Have Less Covid-19 Risk, but in College Towns, Deaths Rose Fast
Links between university outbreaks and deaths in the wider community are often indirect and difficult to document, but some health experts say there are clear signs of a connection.


Catching up with last eight pages, saw that.   Saw the article in the NYT -- one connection, which jumped out at me,  was that something like a million college students work in health care and/or elder care.    This is a vector that's really hard to fix -- there's already staff shortages.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60036 on: December 13, 2020, 11:15:03 AM »

I’m sorry your friend had such a terrible experience in my town.


Larry's sewer.

heh

The Capital of YOUR nation.

Right?

That post (and the vomiting out my "hate" post)  lead me to think Kid grew up in a place where insults are the one limited form of male bonding and everyone competes to drop the biggest turd in the punchbowl.   I knew people who were into that.   "Let's see what you're made of. "   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60037 on: December 13, 2020, 11:18:02 AM »

But, the "climate change emergency" devotees want it all now...which is simply impossible.

We want the CHANGES now.

We don't want the coal plants all stopped and the gas-powered cars turned off NOW.

We wanted us to move towards their all being off a decade or two ago, but people like YOU and #1 Radio Host who spent decades denying there was a problem and then (and still) denying that man-made pollutants could possibly be a major factor delayed it, so the sources cannot be turned off now.

So, we want the change to start now. 2030, 2035, they are a ton better than the never that the outgoing oval office occupant was aiming for.

Stop making up shit.
Yes, leave the fiction to the global moderator.
That’s his perceived calling.
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« Reply #60038 on: December 13, 2020, 11:29:32 AM »

Bambi, you only think that because you are a dumbass and you are cracked out on Rupy juice. He owns you and controls your life. Sad. He’s just about ready to fold to China. Excuse us if we don’t follow you into your new existence as someone else’s colony. It’s suits you though. You wear it well.

As for energy, you don’t dig. You don’t import. You collect it from the sky.

Not to power America...now...you don't.
The nearest whole number percentage of power in the world today generated by wind is...zero.
0.04% or such.
Solar can't power America...yet...either.

Up to seven percent in the US,  and projected available plots of land (so,  just onshore installation) show total energy potential at around 120% of present total US electricity use.   Networking with solar, hydro,  geothermal,  tidal,  plus battery storage,  solves the irregularity issue.   Wind installations are now the cheapest new infrastructure on a per megawatt basis,  so it's going to happen.    My state (a Red State,  btw) has gone all out on the wind power,  and now gets 24% of its power from wind.   It's also an economic lifeline to farmers and ranchers.   You know, the people who feed us.   
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60039 on: December 13, 2020, 11:35:41 AM »

The Republicans will get some new people, and the Right will rise again, the 70+ million rusted on voters in tow.
If Biden does what he's promised to do, and cancels coal, gas, and oil, the Right won't have to look far for new voters.
If Biden turns the US into a net importer of energy instead of a net exporter of energy...he will surely be in for a rough ride. Lots of jobs in those industries, including very well paying ones.

He who has no imagination has no wet dreams.
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« Reply #60040 on: December 13, 2020, 11:37:53 AM »

The Dems have to put in the work to make sure that trump is viewed as the worst president ever.  By all rights, W Bush should have had the title, but the Dems acquiesced in the cultural amnesia that Bush never existed.  A blown opportunity to tarnish the GOP long term. 

How come no Dems are talking about how W Bush and Trump represent the GOP and were disastrous Presidents who set America on the road to decline and hate.  Then go on to make whatever other arguments, such as Republicans are incompetent at governing because they don't believe in gov't.  How all the money shifts to the Rich with tax cuts for the wealthy, and then the Dems are handed a bankrupt country, so the GOP can claim there's no money to aid the poor and working class.

Can't just assume Americans understand these things.  Need to repeat them and make them generally agreed to facts.  Dems need to be more involved in messaging and shaping history.

No, do you watch US media?
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« Reply #60041 on: December 13, 2020, 11:40:27 AM »

So far, Trump has wisely rejected a second debt bomb package that we were told was essential -- and yet 12.4 million more jobs were created without it.

University of Chicago economist Casey Mulligan and I estimate Trump saved 3 to 5 million jobs by not agreeing to $600-a-week bonus unemployment benefits. The Congressional Budget Office calculated that "roughly five of six recipients" were getting more from unemployment insurance payments than they would from working.

We all support a safety net for people who lose their job during the pandemic through no fault of their own. But paying people more for not working is no "stimulus" for the economy.  Moreover, getting the schools reopened so kids are in the classroom would allow three or four million more Americans (mostly working mothers) to go back to work.



https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-nancy-pelosi-gambit-stephen-moore


Assholes.
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Re: Trump Administration
« Reply #60042 on: December 13, 2020, 11:53:11 AM »

“Trump has wisely “

You can stop there.

Reading on is the equivalent of sucking face with some stranger while they are sneezing.
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« Reply #60043 on: December 13, 2020, 12:21:07 PM »


These Trumpers need to give thanks to the gods of gentrification or they would have had a very different experience back in the days when Thomas Circle was a wholly different marketplace of ideas...


https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1337947735673229316?s=21
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« Reply #60044 on: December 13, 2020, 12:42:54 PM »

Catching up...Fac's school reading list --.if my HS had such, I might have read Gravity's Rainbow.   At this point,  I feel like that window of opp is gone.   Maybe.   The other Tom (Robbins) is quite readable - still grateful for his observation that the first amoeba is still alive.   

Outright book banning is a powerful stimulus to curious young readers -- sort of an offshoot of what psychs call The Streisand Effect.     
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