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Reports of protests are overblown. A few incidents around the country, but nothing major.

5 (45.5%)

A few major incidents in capitals, but nothing much in DC.

5 (45.5%)

A major incident in DC, but nothing much around the country.

0 (0%)

More than 10 capitals have major upheavals, but nothing much in DC.

0 (0%)

A major incident in DC plus more than 10 capitals with significant upheavals.

1 (9.1%)

More than half the capitals around the country have problems with protesters, but DC is quiet.

0 (0%)

DC has major problems, while more than half the capitals around the country also have considerable trouble with protesters.

0 (0%)

Huge disruption to the day.

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

Voting closed: January 19, 2021, 10:49:21 PM

[kidcarter8]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/racial-ethnic-disparities/disparities-impact.html

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/covid19-behavioral-health-disparities-black-latino-communities.pdf

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2769381

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

Four different looks, each of which identifies treatment issues for Blacks and non-white Hispanics.

Take your pick or read them all.

Or, as I expect, pretend to have read them so you can blow them off, as usual - but this way they are gathered for the folks here who engage in thinking instead of excuse-making and fact-dodging.

I picked one\

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

It says NOTHING about treatment being withheld to non whites - lesser treatment offered - not a thing about discrimination.

I am certain the other three are similar to this in their nothingness

[bodiddley]

Trump trashed a lot of gov't agencies -- CDC, EPA, Census Bureau, Post Office, etc. -- I hope there will be some accounting of the damage done.

What damage was done?

If I thought this would lead to an intelligent and productive discussion of how these agencies were handled under Trump, I would go into detail and provide more specifics.  But I'll open with general damage and see if this conversation is worth pursuing more.

The Census Bureau, Post Office and Attorney General's office were politicized by Trump, and weaponized to try to ensure Trump's re-election.  Sort of a Nixonian abuse of governmental agencies.  This is institutional damage, and hopefully safeguards can be put in place to prevent it from happening again.

Trump's beef with the postal service stems from his dislike of Bezos who runs the critical Washington Post.  This comes from Trump's own words (tweets and interviews).  And then he tried to disrupt and slow down postal service in the runup to an election that was going to rely heavily on mail-in ballots due to the pandemic he failed to stem.  Trump also threatened to let the PO go bankrupt, and started reducing service.  That's a pretty clear case of damaging the USPS for political reasons.

Trump also seeded a lot of partisan political people in many agencies, with political hacks overruling scientists at the CDC for Covid guidelines.  Also a few hundred million of CDC money was diverted to a PR exercise under Caputo to promote Trump's vaccine strategy. 
The CDC was highly compromised and its reputation left in tatters.  Which very likely will hamper widespread vaccination.

Trump tried to get AG Barr to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden during the election campaign.  Surprisingly, Barr kept an undergoing investigation of Hunter under wraps.  But Trump has mostly used the AG office as his own political attorneys.
Dating back to Sessions.

Recently, Trump has tried to embed political appointees into the civil service so that they become hard to remove and can serve as a Trump Deep State.
And it's well-known that Trump never hires the most qualified or competent people, but rather the most sycophantic.

There's more damage and I assume more agencies damaged, but that's a pretty good start of detailing some of the wreckage. 

[josh]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/racial-ethnic-disparities/disparities-impact.html

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/covid19-behavioral-health-disparities-black-latino-communities.pdf

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2769381

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

Four different looks, each of which identifies treatment issues for Blacks and non-white Hispanics.

Take your pick or read them all.

Or, as I expect, pretend to have read them so you can blow them off, as usual - but this way they are gathered for the folks here who engage in thinking instead of excuse-making and fact-dodging.

All you have pointed to is that a portion of minorities, those at the lower end of the economic scale, have poorer results from COVID.  That is true worldwide.  It is due to job level, living conditions, dependence on public transportation, lack of resources to afford better health care, to name the obvious.

It is NOT due to racism.

You can't read.

[josh]

Another racist Trump supporter heard from:
https://news.yahoo.com/pro-trump-election-lawyer-shares-173029689.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=fb

[josh]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408

"We want them infected!"

[josh]

[bodiddley]

Morocco doesn’t get the ink.

Well, there are of course significant differences.
Maybe 400K Sahrawis compared to 10M Palestinians.
A largely empty sandscape compared to the Holy Land which has been fought over for a millennium.  The large-scale importation of European and Arab Jews from other lands.  Then there's also the size of the respective lands so that Palestinians and Jews are in much closer proximity than Moroccans and Sahrawis.  Etc.

But both countries ran a sham peace process for decades with no intention of giving any form of statehood or citizenship to the stateless people under their control.
And both people remain stateless with a tenuous hold over their traditional homeland.

[bodiddley]

That'll teach them to be poor.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Trump trashed a lot of gov't agencies -- CDC, EPA, Census Bureau, Post Office, etc. -- I hope there will be some accounting of the damage done.

What damage was done?

If I thought this would lead to an intelligent and productive discussion of how these agencies were handled under Trump, I would go into detail and provide more specifics.  But I'll open with general damage and see if this conversation is worth pursuing more.

The Census Bureau, Post Office and Attorney General's office were politicized by Trump, and weaponized to try to ensure Trump's re-election.  Sort of a Nixonian abuse of governmental agencies.  This is institutional damage, and hopefully safeguards can be put in place to prevent it from happening again.

Trump's beef with the postal service stems from his dislike of Bezos who runs the critical Washington Post. 

You don’t even have a clue.  The Post Office kerfuffle was a democrat ploy and pathetic.
The Census Bureau controversy was ended when SCOTUS agreed with Trump
The Justice Department has never had a more independent and capable Attorney General than Bill Barr.

Trump also seeded a lot of partisan political people in many agencies

Hmm. Ever have a real job in your life.? In the real world management hires those loyal to them.

The CDC was highly compromised and its reputation left in tatters.  Which very likely will hamper widespread vaccination.

Any reputation damage to the CDC was self -inflicted 

Trump tried to get AG Barr to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden during the election campaign.  Surprisingly, Barr kept an undergoing investigation of Hunter under wraps.

Hardly surprising since he followed Justice Department precedence

  But Trump has mostly used the AG office as his own political attorneys.
Dating back to Sessions.

How?

Recently, Trump has tried to embed political appointees into the civil service so that they become hard to remove and can serve as a Trump Deep State.

You might want to research Civil Service rules.

And it's well-known that Trump never hires the most qualified or competent people, but rather the most sycophantic.

Then why were so many sycophants fired?

There's more damage and I assume more agencies damaged, but that's a pretty good start of detailing some of the wreckage.

LOL

[REDSTATEWARD]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/racial-ethnic-disparities/disparities-impact.html

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/covid19-behavioral-health-disparities-black-latino-communities.pdf

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2769381

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

Four different looks, each of which identifies treatment issues for Blacks and non-white Hispanics.

Take your pick or read them all.

Or, as I expect, pretend to have read them so you can blow them off, as usual - but this way they are gathered for the folks here who engage in thinking instead of excuse-making and fact-dodging.

All you have pointed to is that a portion of minorities, those at the lower end of the economic scale, have poorer results from COVID.  That is true worldwide.  It is due to job level, living conditions, dependence on public transportation, lack of resources to afford better health care, to name the obvious.

It is NOT due to racism.

You can't read.

Use any color you want to highlight your ignorance.
But none of your citations mention racism. 

[josh]

Trump trashed a lot of gov't agencies -- CDC, EPA, Census Bureau, Post Office, etc. -- I hope there will be some accounting of the damage done.

What damage was done?

If I thought this would lead to an intelligent and productive discussion of how these agencies were handled under Trump, I would go into detail and provide more specifics.  But I'll open with general damage and see if this conversation is worth pursuing more.

The Census Bureau, Post Office and Attorney General's office were politicized by Trump, and weaponized to try to ensure Trump's re-election.  Sort of a Nixonian abuse of governmental agencies.  This is institutional damage, and hopefully safeguards can be put in place to prevent it from happening again.

Trump's beef with the postal service stems from his dislike of Bezos who runs the critical Washington Post. 

You don’t even have a clue.  The Post Office kerfuffle was a democrat ploy and pathetic.
The Census Bureau controversy was ended when SCOTUS agreed with Trump
The Justice Department has never had a more independent and capable Attorney General than Bill Barr.

Trump also seeded a lot of partisan political people in many agencies

Hmm. Ever have a real job in your life.? In the real world management hires those loyal to them.

The CDC was highly compromised and its reputation left in tatters.  Which very likely will hamper widespread vaccination.

Any reputation damage to the CDC was self -inflicted 

Trump tried to get AG Barr to investigate Joe and Hunter Biden during the election campaign.  Surprisingly, Barr kept an undergoing investigation of Hunter under wraps.

Hardly surprising since he followed Justice Department precedence

  But Trump has mostly used the AG office as his own political attorneys.
Dating back to Sessions.

How?

Recently, Trump has tried to embed political appointees into the civil service so that they become hard to remove and can serve as a Trump Deep State.

You might want to research Civil Service rules.

And it's well-known that Trump never hires the most qualified or competent people, but rather the most sycophantic.

Then why were so many sycophants fired?

There's more damage and I assume more agencies damaged, but that's a pretty good start of detailing some of the wreckage.

LOL

Ward never saw a fact that was negative about his party that he couldn't ignore, put down, or use to denigrate the poster.

[josh]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/racial-ethnic-disparities/disparities-impact.html

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/covid19-behavioral-health-disparities-black-latino-communities.pdf

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2769381

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

Four different looks, each of which identifies treatment issues for Blacks and non-white Hispanics.

Take your pick or read them all.

Or, as I expect, pretend to have read them so you can blow them off, as usual - but this way they are gathered for the folks here who engage in thinking instead of excuse-making and fact-dodging.

All you have pointed to is that a portion of minorities, those at the lower end of the economic scale, have poorer results from COVID.  That is true worldwide.  It is due to job level, living conditions, dependence on public transportation, lack of resources to afford better health care, to name the obvious.

It is NOT due to racism.

You can't read.

Use any color you want to highlight your ignorance.
But none of your citations mention racism.

There, there, Ward.

We already know you have no ability to interpret facts.

No need to prove it again.

[bodiddley]

Blech.
Mostly useless responses.
A worthless game to engage you.

You might want to research how Trump thwarted civil service practices, by removing protections form a large 5 of gov't employees and embedding political appointees into the civil service in the past few months.

Many sycophants were fired because trump is a mercurial asshole who thrives on chaos and demands total loyalty.  While others just proved totally incompetent.

[josh]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/health-equity/racial-ethnic-disparities/disparities-impact.html

https://www.samhsa.gov/sites/default/files/covid19-behavioral-health-disparities-black-latino-communities.pdf

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2769381

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

Four different looks, each of which identifies treatment issues for Blacks and non-white Hispanics.

Take your pick or read them all.

Or, as I expect, pretend to have read them so you can blow them off, as usual - but this way they are gathered for the folks here who engage in thinking instead of excuse-making and fact-dodging.

I picked one\

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/covid-19-racial-disparities-testing-infection-hospitalization-death-analysis-epic-patient-data/

It says NOTHING about treatment being withheld to non whites - lesser treatment offered - not a thing about discrimination.

I am certain the other three are similar to this in their nothingness

Thank you for proving my point about you, Ward-light.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Blech.
Mostly useless responses.
A worthless game to engage you.

You might want to research how Trump thwarted civil service practices, by removing protections form a large 5 of gov't employees and embedding political appointees into the civil service in the past few months.

Better yet you might want to get the right set of facts. 0r find a more accurate left wing source 

Many sycophants were fired because trump is a mercurial asshole who thrives on chaos and demands total loyalty.  While others just proved totally incompetent.

Like who?